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    Aspire V7-482PG-9884

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by cernio, Jul 9, 2013.

  1. johnyguy

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    i dont think i see what you describing on my screen
     
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    Just got the Canadian version today, loving the screen! Only thing is I've been using it for a couple of hours and the area above the keyboard is pretty warm and I'm not even doing anything demanding =S other people have mentioned this occurs during gaming but I havent done any. Is this normal?
     
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    It's a really hot running laptop. Use a cooling pad, undervolt and repaste. Those are your options.
     
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    thanks. I think it would be a good idea to have an extended warranty. but my real issue is not about getting a new one but the hassle of having to send the product back and forth. this is the reason why I have a separate drive installed on the laptop rather than using the stock HDD. don't want to leave some personal documents there hanging for someone else to pry on. secondly, the problem of them not able to recreate the problem, sending the old unit back to you, then suddenly after a month of using, it does the same thing again. sometimes, your laptop could end up as long as 1 month for repair. now that would be really annoying.


    with regards to the heating problem, I suspect two things. one is the battery itself. two would be the bios which I mentioned that it is quite buggy. so it could screw your laptop's power setting as well. I just hope that this 3rd copy would be the last one and a good one. otherwise, I'd be off back to Asus. this would be Acer's final chance to redeem itself.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestions, after a bunch of restarts/updates it seems to have cooled down considerably =)
     
  6. dlang

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    So I have the slightly lower end Acer Aspire V7-482PG-6629 showing up today at the door step.

    Before I open the box (which I believe makes it either un returnable or a restock fee at Amazon unless DOA, or defective)

    Are you guys still happy with yours? For the price it seems hard to beat. Do you wish you could return it and get something else?

    updated:
    Also from reading about Acer some.. sounds like I would definitely want the extended warranty on it.. which maybe doesn't make it such a steal.
     
  7. thomasw333

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    I have not seen anything better. If I could return mine, I do not know what I would buy instead. The Sony Vaio Flip only has a Nvidia GT735M. But I would get an extended warranty.
     
  8. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    As a rule of thumb extended warranty doesn't make much sense for anything below $1K.
    Obviously there is a chance that it would save you money but the risk is relatively low and so is the value of a notebook, yet the premium paid on the extended warranty is considerable relative to the initial price.
     
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    Go for it dude? Honestly, there is no point in not opening it. Amazon doesn't give a crap if you open it or not; I don't think they even check. Just retape it and you're good to go. Besides, how would you know if there is a defect on the machine if you don't open it and boot it up? Amazon will charge you shipping if there are no defects on the laptop. That might be a negligible cost, but I take you still want to open this bad boy up and test it out?

    Honestly, I think @downloads is right about the warranty thing. For the cost of the warranty, you can get yourself a 256gb ssd. Still worth considering though.
     
  10. william1347

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    Lol, before purchasing this acer, I got myself an Asus Q501La from Best Buy. Ended up exchanging 5 times within Best Buy's 15-day return window, for pretty stupid reasons like minor screen defects and hardly-visible scratches. It got to the point where I got my friend to return it for me. In the end, I just decided 15.6 inch was kind of big and went with Acer instead.

    By the way, what Asus laptop are you looking at?
     
  11. dlang

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    Yeah I can probably come up with some defect for it, if I have to return it.. Warranty for 3 years ADH from squaretrade is about 150.. normally I don't buy it if it is over 10% of the cost.. it sits at 20 and most things are user changeable (reason I went with this one).

    I just returned an XPS 15 new model to Costco that was 2k, it had too many little issues for a 2k machine. Had a rMBP 15" on order, but decided that I wanted something a bit more inexpensive, so with the price difference I was able to order a 30" monitor. Laptop is not my primary machine, it is just for travelling, vacation, etc.. want to be able to do a bit of gaming on it, doesn't even have to be at max resolution, just so long as I can play it.

    Looking over the specs, you can't find 8gb+ ram, 1080p IPS screen, and Haswell in a machine under 1300. They always lack something. This one lacks AC wireless, but eh oh well. It has wireless and if I get an AC laptop, then I have to upgrade my routers....
     
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    I would like to know that as well actually. If someone wants to buy me the card and the router I will gladly test it out.

    I think I noticed that it is the 7260N already in it, so the antennas would just have to mate.

    I am actually really liking this puppy so far. For the price if it stays reliable.. I think it might be hard to beat.. going to try and get some games on here.. Also has anyone put in an SSD or bigger mSATA card in there yet?
     
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    Just received my V7. Is this lightbleed on the right side of the screen something I should worry about?

    Thanks

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  15. dlang

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    Depends on if it annoys you or not.. just checked mine while doing windows update on the update screen, I don't see anything on mine.
     
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    It does annoy me but I have heard that lightbleed is somewhat normal in laptops, though if you don't have any it makes me wonder. I don't want to return it just to get another one that has it worse than this one. The only time I can see it is on a real dark background, not noticeable during a movie. Haven't installed any games yet so not sure if it would show up there.

    I guess what I am asking is: is lightbleed normal and if so, does this meet that definition?

    Thanks :)
     
  17. dlang

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    Getting light bleed is normal, but that doesn't mean you have to accept it. YMMV, you basically roll the display lottery and see what you get. They have different panel manufacturers sometimes across the same laptop, so it may just depend on what day they are put together. Also there is some specification variance in the same parts even.

    I noticed a hair of light bleed, almost imperceptible, but now I am looking for it. Do you have your brightness at max? I'll change mine when I get home tonight and see. I have 0 dead pixels and stuck pixels so far, and 0 light bleed issues, so I am extremely happy so far with the panel.

    I ran Diablo 3 last night with mostly high settings @ 1080p and was running at 20-30fps, so far loving this little laptop for the price. Just wish battery life was better. They put in such a small battery.
     
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    Really? How is your battery life? The Acer have received praise for it's relatively high battery life compared to other gaming laptops. Some guy did a battery test on here and got ~ 7 hours with power saver and screen on the highest brightness.

    The ULV processor is supposed to make up for the small battery, unless you're playing games.

    Edit: I'm not too excited about my shipment anymore... :( UPS lists it as 3lbs, so I'm even sure if they shipped me the right thing.
     
  19. dlang

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    Well one of the things going into my purchase decision was waiting on haswell for the awesome battery life.. 10+ hours --macbook Air battery life.. had planned to buy 13" Macbook Retina.. and then just couldn't part with the money for the specs. Then I planned on buying this XPS 15.. Dell quotes 11hours.. got more like 6. Big screen etc, quad core etc...

    So it is still good battery life, just not as good as I was shooting for. Better I am sure than my 4 year old core 2 duo laptop. I wouldn't really say this is a gaming laptop though with ULV processor, its more a Super Ultrabook..
     
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    Right, it is certainly less of a gaming laptop compared to those big and heavy 15.6 inchers. It's not much of an ultrabook either, I guess, because it's > 3 lbs. With that said, I hope it works out for both of us. Are you planning to install an SSD or replace the keyboard (if you have the Canadian version)?

    PS: Tell us if you find anything wrong with your screen.
     
  21. dlang

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    So after looking a little bit closer.. there is a bit of backlight bleed in the same spot.. Not nearly as noticeable though.
     
  22. johnyguy

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    if you complaining about battery life while playing games thats a different story almost all laptops gives you not so great battery life , keep in mind this is reasonably thin laptop ,other than for gaming and even for gaming is not bad at all in my opinion.
     
  23. thomasw333

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    Wow, that is really bad, my screen is dead black, with a black background on the desktop.
    Now I get a tiny bit of light bleed on the extreme edges of both sides when the splash screen pops up, but other than that, zero light bleed.
    And no dead pixels, but I have seen most laptop get a couple of dead pixels eventually.

    But I can not get Windows 8.1 to not crash after a couple of days, so it is not perfect anywhere.

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  24. dlang

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    Yeah I know when taxing the system under load it is going to be much worse.. I guess my beef is more with Windows battery life over MAC. I haven't had much of a chance to really battery stress it.. will try that when I go out of town this week.

    Mac Airs get like 11-13 hours on the light test with the same size battery, granted this one has a dedicated GPU too, but in the light I doubt it gets activated at all. Also touchscreen uses a bit more, and the 1080p ips screen is probably a bit more.. but I would hope it would of done a bit more, even though it is still very good.
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    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7238/acer-v7482pg9884-review-everything-you-need/5
    From the Anandtech review too:
    "The 53.6 Wh battery isn’t the highest capacity battery you’ll find on market, but it’s the same capacity that Apple uses in the MacBook Air 13 (2013). What’s not the same is the battery life that you get with Windows compared to OS X. With Haswell, the Aspire V7 basically matches what Apple was able to do with the MacBook Air 13 (2012): around seven hours of battery life in our light workload. For reference, the new MBA13 delivered 11 hours in the same test. Still, the Haswell laptops are all posting significant gains over the previous generation Ivy Bridge laptops."

    "Getting back to the battery life aspect, the V7 posts good results certainly, but I was hoping for even a bit more from our first complete Haswell Ultrabook review. Perhaps the 14” touchscreen is part of the issue, as it could be sucking down precious milliwatts. Other components are also likely a factor, as the Acer S7-392 is quite close to the MBA13. Ultimately, we’re looking at average power draw for the entire laptop of around 7.7W in our Light test on the V7 compared to roughly 4.8W for the MBA13 in the same test under OS X; the S7 Haswell Ultrabook measured 5.4W, which is pretty close to the same sort of gap we’ve seen in the past. As for the V7, coming up with items to account for almost 3W is difficult."
     
  25. dlang

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    Also I do probably plan on grabbing a hybrid drive or SSD for it as part of Black Friday Sales.. If I grab an SSD, I will pull the msata. Or maybe I can find a really huge msata and use it for cache.

    But actually so far, the hard drive doesn't seem to be that slow.
     
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    Hey guys, I just received my Acer V7 482pg 6662 model. The UPS guy always come so late, arrgh. Anyways, I haven't really tested out anything yet and I'm liking it so far. However, as soon as I opened it up, I noticed that the screen had some imprints on it. They have a diamond pattern with a visible dot in each diamond. I hope they are not scratches or anything. The cloth that was placed between the screen and the keyboard seems to be the culprit. Anyone else have a screen like this? I can't seem to wipe it.
     
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    is that on full brightness? if so thats fine
    i have a 15" one and i have some too if i look at it closely i cant see it using the laptop normally plus i never use it on full brightness ,most laptops tablets has some light bleed ,nothing to worry about ,
    if you send it back may get a worst one you pick

    enjoy it instead


    thats perfectly normal thats for the touch screen if you look at it closely it has a pattern when its on you wont see it

    im not an expert but i dont get it why everyone right out of the box upgrading the hard drive mine came with a 1TB conventional HD and a 24GB cache drive and seems very fast boot up times i dont see the need of replacing it.

    on my old laptop i did replaced the HD with a 250GB SSD but that one did not have a Cache drive for boot up and it did speed up boot up time ,
    a 1TB SSD would cost alot of money.
     
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    i am wondering if there is a way to turn off the touch screen since i dont use it ,thats a fact its uses power .im still impressed with battery life compared to my 4 years old machine. i mean its a brand new pc should be better , apple always had the edge on battery life , but like you said we have a dedicated gpu. windows needs to improve i cant wait to see whats coming up in the next refresh when intel changes to 18-15nm tri-gate fabrication processors,imagine the battery life than
     
  29. dlang

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    Some of us picked up a lower end model of it, and it only has a 500gb hard drive. Still plenty of space for me mostly, but the 5400 rpm hard drive will be a bit of a bottleneck. If I could get a 512gb SSD for maybe 250ish or a 1tb 7200rpm hybrid for 100.
     
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    Okay a few things after playing around with the laptop:

    I got the Canadian keyboard and those backslashes are annoying as hell, I hope I can get used to them. The one next to the shift key, I don't really mind, but the one next to the enter key is just asking for trouble.

    But the keyboard itself feels decent. The keys are kind of small, but it's a 14 inch after all. Boy, this thing is slick. It feels better than the Clevo W230st and comes close to my friend's MacBook in terms of build, but the MacBook is still better.

    The screen is nice. I'm on power saver right now and it flickers every 5-10 minutes (I guess that's normal?). And crap, I do have some light bleed on my laptop, but it's only visible on a dark desktop and I have to look very hard to see it. But it's virtually unnoticeable from certain viewing angles. There is no way I'm returning it because of that though, the waiting + high chance of getting even worse is discouraging.

    I've noticed some graphical distortions/lag whenever I open a new tab in Bing. I think this is a Bing-related issue, going to try it in Chrome to be sure. Or maybe I should update my drivers. And the reverse scrolling is annoying, I need to change the setting or something.

    My touchpad is below the hinge that surrounds that right of the touchpad and it's not responsive when I swipe from the right of the trackpad onto the trackpad. I have to start from the trackpad.

    Some users have had issues with the cooling, so I'll be on the lookout for temperatures.
     
  31. dlang

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    So if it makes you guys feel any better, I just bought a 30" Dell Ultrasharp QHD monitor, and it has soo much back light bleed it is ridiculous.. 850 bucks .. yeah it's going back.
     
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    850 bucks? Are you talking about the monitor or the Acer?
     
  33. dlang

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    Heh monitor
    It's this puppy...[URL="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C2RPW8O/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C2RPW8O/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/URL]

    Going to send it back this week. Not that much bigger than my 28", even though the resolution is amazing.
     
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    Yeah, it was on max brightness in the picture that I posted.

    So it sounds like its kind of a roll of the dice with this type of thing, which is somewhat scary. I'm slightly OCD when it comes to things like this but I really don't want to return it just to get another that is worse. I totally agree with you dlang: if it is annoying I shouldn't put up with it.
     
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    After owning several IPS panel tablets, I considered the lightbleed as common issue. If it is minimal, just live with it, you won't notice it.
     
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    I can't find the SSD drive/ cache in my computers. There's only the HD (c:drive) which has about 407gb of free space.

    I set my desktop background to high contrast #1, brightness to 100% and whenever I move the screen (change the angle), the screen starts to bleed in different areas. This changes depending on where I move the screen.

    Pictures taken in a dark background (high contrast #1) and with brightness set to 100%:

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    I'm just as OCD as grimtheory is...

    My phone has a crappy old 8MP camera by the way so feel free to ask for clarification.
     
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    it has a pretty similar spec as the V7 but it in 15.6 size like the V7 bigger sibling. I'm waiting for a 14 inch version of it that hopefully Asus would release soon. I did consider the highest spec Sager/Clevo 13.3 before I jumped the gun on the Acer. somehow I feel a little bit of a buyer's remorse due to the lemons I'm getting as of the moment. but that is because I hate the inconvenience. wasn't able to check the status of my laptop due to my extremely busy schedule this month. so I'm in no rush whatsoever but still feel annoyed.

    SSD upgrade is necessary to some users. one basic reason is it is significantly faster. windows 8 boot up time is instantaneous with an SSD. also fast load up times with games and certain graphics video application. my primary use is for Adobe Photoshop which has loads of additional filters and add-ons that are loaded upon application start-up which takes some significant time to finish. I have thousands of image files to contend with and open in my raw catalog that average from 8mb as high as 30mb per file. so imagine opening up and refreshing the preview of 50,000 image files for editing. a cached standard HDD is liveable if you can live with a few seconds delay. but for someone like me who values every second of the time, it does make a difference.


    I hate that keyboard layout since I always accidentally press those two every time. it's a poorly thought design. I also find the keys quite shallow to stroke.
     
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    go to disk management. it should be there and unallocated. you have to enable and format it before you could use it. hope that helps.
     
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    Went ahead and checked mine, mine shows as formatted and healthy from a default install.

    Unless you restore windows from an iso, I think you should be okay. If you do, they didn't use the normal Intel caching stuff, they used a different vendor i believe, so you would have to get that software somewhere. Maybe it is on Acer's site.
     
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    I forgot to mention, you have to download some of the utilities directly from intel website.
     
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    Have you guys had problems with throttling during games with these? That's the big problem on my acer timeline um5 I can't game for 10 minutes without it throttling and it's only a year old.

    And I'm sure someone here has tried some intense games on these, like the battlefield 3 and 4 games. How did they turn out?
     
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    OMG, I can't believe I almost overlooked this!!! The right side of my screen is coming out of the hinge. No wonder I'm getting backlighting in crap. God I'm blind. Going to RMA ASAP. You guys might want to double check your build quality.
     
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    Only problem I have had really is when coming out of sleep mode the wireless doesn't re enable.. it shows up as an error and windows says that it has disabled due to it reporting errors.. if I disable in device manager and re enable, it comes right back up.

    Not every time I should say, just sometimes.
     
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    Usually my wifi cuts out, and I put it to sleep and come back from sleep and it works. This is only when I am using a wifi signal from far way, that i often have trouble connecting to.
     
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    I took the 2nd copy back as advised by the store technical staff as they couldn't recreate the problem and told me it wasn't worth paying the substantial re-stocking fee for what it seems like a perfectly working unit. they said that I should use the 1 year warranty instead if ever the problem should arise again and toast my system or atleast show that it is defective upon inspection. they said I'd rather spend the money on other stuff which is a difficult yet sound advice. I just hope that it doesn't break down in a couple of months or just right after the warranty period expires, otherwise that would be troublesome for me and wasted $1,350 on everything on it, including accessories and upgrades. or around $110 of 1 year use per month.

    as I personally inspected it, there was no burnt odor nor trace of black smoke and burnt devices/component on the motherboard. display looks to be good with no dead/stuck pixels that might have caused by the oven-hot temp that got me worried.
    both fans are working fine and still sounds the same and no clicking whatsoever. I did a stress test to see this.

    battery looks good and not heating up for long duration of operation. charging was good as well. battery life or level doesn't seem to be affected and still perform at full levels from 9-11 hours max. idle power(sleep mode) and shutdown doesn't seem to drain the battery at all and remain at 99% for 5-6 days. for some reason, the laptop doesn't heat anymore when on sleep mode, even if it's inside a laptop sleeve and inside a laptop satchel.

    as far as the bizarre heat incident is concerned, it would remain a mystery. I'm no sure what caused the malfunction like it showed the battery level drained but came to almost full charge within half-an hour or less charging it. I'm pretty aware of exploding and firing batteries so this might have been close to it. it could be the battery is defective or malfunctioning or that the power management setup of the laptop screwed the flow of current or amount of voltage running on the batteries. but this is just my speculation but I must say that this is really weird especially if the battery and laptop looks and runs fine afterwards. We'll see in a few months if something like this ever happens again, but so far, no alarming incidents since re-acquiring this unit a few days ago.

    user review will be out in 1 or 2 days. and hope to help you guys out there to decide.
     
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    So I was able to try out that Acer Converter port with a DisplayPort cable to a 30" Dell monitor... and you know what.. it works. At Native resolution I might add (2880x1600). So it is a displayport it appears, although it is not marketed as such so YMMV.

    So It looks like it is some cross between thunderbolt and displayport maybe since you can buy an adaptor that has lan and stuff on it for use with the S7 vs the V7.. or at least on the S7 it is.

    Guess they just didn't want to spend the $$ to certify it as displayport?
     
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    I'm not sure. it's either a misprint or that there is a variant despite appearing to be the same model and depending on the territory. some variants have lower class gpu, some have less hdd space, some only comes with 128gb msata ssd, different keyboard, different bios/OS setup, or bigger vram. the funny part of it is that all variants cost the same.
     
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    I'm more wondering if they just dont't completely follow some spec on it, so if they put DP on the box, then it has to work with all DP monitors.. maybe they had a few issues where they were not fully conformant or couldn't push everything. But using DP mini to DP full worked. I had to send that monitor back now, but I am happy to believe that mine has a DP on it.
     
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