Gemstome Blue Users, Post If You've Been Throttled!

Well, if I can get my mitts on Windows XP, I'll be happy to test the theory that it doesn't throttle the 6920G.
Otherwise, you guys will have to sit tight until Friday.

 

I don't mind that we need to sit until Friday because I got freaking d@mn traditional 2D animation need to do. I am doomed now.

Question:
How long would acer technicians take to identify the problem? It heard their hands slow.(bad rumour LOL)

Currently, I am doing some registry tricks for this THROTTLING problem.
Check this out Tehsuigi, maybe you know already but I think I need to show too.

Look at the 2nd picture attachment on the CPUtempoffset, set the value to 5. This is for Penyrn Processor accurate reading tweak.
Anyway, feel free to tweak anything on RMclock there. Since ACER already lock a lot of them. Even you change them, they(not all) would just revert back after a reboot.

 

TehSuigi,

I can tell you that Acer 6920 T8300 throttles not only with Vista, but also with windows XP SP3, Windows 7 and even Ubuntu and MAC OSX, it is just taking a little longer because these operating systems are not that demanding as vista.

So you don't have to try installing it.

Greetings

 

Thanks, wimcor!
DarkSilver, interesting snaps of the registry.

 

hi

i want to buy Aspire 6930 , does it have this problem ? can i play games with it or i can't ?

HELP PLEASE
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* Intel® Centrino Core 2 Duo processor /T5900 with up to 6 MB L2 Cache, supporting Intel 64 architecture
* 4GB Ram using dual soDIMM modules
* Sata HDD 500GB
* 16" WUXGA (Full HD), high-brightness
* NVIDIA® GeForce® 9600M GT with up to 2303 MB of TurboCache
* 2X Blu-ray Disc DVD-Super Multi double-layer drive
* Dolby®-optimized surround sound system with two built-in stereo speakers and one subwoofer
* TV-tuner
* Optional Acer Xpress VoIP phone
* Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 5100/5300
* Bluetooth
* WEb Cam Acer Crystal Eye
* 5-in-1 card reader
* Genuine Windows Vista
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Yup, you will have no problems to run games

 

Gemstone Blue 8920G
Core 2 Duo T5750
4 gigs internal
NVidia 9500M GS
BIOS 1.14

... is this in any way related to the Vista/Windows 7 process "AudioDG" going through the ceiling? Happends to me all the time when I'm playing games and/or having Ventrillo on.

 

The throttle isn't caused by audiodg.exe hogging CPU time, it's the other way around. (remember, you're going from 2 GHz to less than half that)

 

Agreed. Because audiodg.exe is a very important program in your laptop.
Without it you will get BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH(BSOD).
Its usage is high but it is not the culprit.

 

gemstome blue 6935G
core2duo p8600
nvidia 9600m GT
3GB ddr3 ram
bios V1.10
OS: windows 7 32bit

i m not really understand the "throttled", but i m get lagging unusually in game when playing Dota and Titan Quest......is this mean "throttled"?

 

Yep! This is CPU downclock/slowdown due to overheat(throttle).
But there is REAL and FAKE throttle.
REAL throttle means your CPU really goes very hot and the CPU try to slowdown itself to prevent killing itself. This may due to: faulty CPU, dusty CPU or overclocked CPU.
FAKE throttle means your CPU does not go very hot and the CPU try to act clever and slowdown itself to prevent damage. This FAKE stuff may due to: BIOS setting that had been lock and invisiblize by ACER(Basically EIST, TM1 and TM2).

For your info, most of us here were having the FAKE throttle instead of the REAL throttle.
Clean up your CPU(remove dust). Try play some games after that. If it still lag after the game play for a while, means it throttles. There is exceptional if your OS is corrupted/unstable.

You also need to know the ACER is not responsible for this stupid problem(for those have the fake throttle), http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=393881

 

hey darksilver....i don think i havin the real throttle, i m just get this laptop at march 2009. dusty cpu is impossible and no overclock too. maybe i m really facing the same problem as you, fake throttle.

 

Well, keep your eye on CPU temperatures when gaming, and note when it throttles.
If it's in the 80s-90s, it's an honest thermal issue. If it's in the 50s-60s, it's your notebook being stupid.

 

hi

i have acer aspire 6930G and i don't have any problems

also i reached 84 and it didn't throttle

 

8920G
T9300
v1.14
It Throttles :/

Atm I'm using TehSuigi's tip with RMClock and I really hope he gets Acer to see the problem and hopefully fix it with a BIOS update or something!

 

Already did show them the problem - go check the thread I made on the subject.

 

But it seems pointless. They think only 1 machine was having this problem only. We need to tell make them believe that it is their fault and almost every machines(basically 6920G) have this annoying faulty problem.

 

They aren't going to believe a post on a forum that anyone could've written. If you want this to be changed, tell Acer yourself.
If we get enough users who have throttling issues to call Acer about the issue, maybe THEN they'll realize the systematic issue.
Maybe.

 

Basically, we need at least how many poeple?
I really hope the MAYBE become SURE.

 

I don't know - EVERYONE who's posted in this thread so far?
Everyone who sees it?
Everyone who runs into the problem?
The more, the better.

 

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Hell yeah, just now I found a way to test the throttling problem faster.
Put the laptop vertically(almost) and then run some GPU and CPU intensive games or software(orthos).
You can notice the temperature increases very fast and higher than usual.
If your laptop become lag/slowdown soon after the temperature increased, means your laptop is throttling.
Well, my GPU run max about 75-77C(overclocked). But when put vertically, I saw it reached more than 80C, I quickly turn off the games and put it back to horizontal. LOL.
TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK.

 

mmm one last question after all this .. i have 6920g and T7500 and it throttles ...
i will not get rid of this problem even if i buy X9000 cpu ? or T9300 ?

 

As I read the thread, I think that it is a setting problem in the BIOS of the system, so even if you change your CPU, it will prevail....(am I right?).

I don´t know if my system throtles... I have never tested if it throttles, I´m using RMClock to undervolt and I have no issues with throttling...

(9500m GS settings 550/400/1100 with ntune)

 

LOL! After I used RMclock + Registry tweak, my CPU doesn't throttle anymore.
In addition, I disabled my PowerMizer, this give me stable GPU clock and would not throttle suddenly(randomly) if I overclock.
Current overclock of my 9500M GS, 545/435/1135 with nvidia system tools. I think it won't throttle again. ^^!

News: Well, in RMclock advance tab, chipset, check Enable C5 and C6 modes, the other options just left unchecked. You can have lower CPU load with this method.

 

Yes you are right. I changed my t6400 for a x9100 and it still fr*$king throttled.

Perhaps totaly unrelated, but my 8930 came without turbo memory and since I happened to have a mini pci-e 4gb full size turbo memory module I figured I'd give it a try.

It actually works pretty good and personally I find my throttling to be reduced. However I do not have any proof of this. I also can not think of how this should help the throttling. Perhaps it is just a placebo effect. But he that doen't matter for me.

 

hi all
6920g
intel centrino core 2 duo t5550(1.83ghz,667mhz fsb, 2mbl2cache)
Bios v1.02
throttles really fast on gears of war cant even start playing it have to wait at night XD

 

@metalrose there is a new BIOS update dated 03/06 V1.14

 

Yup!

Acer Aspire 6935g
My processor runs @1.2GHz instead of 2 god knows why. During the Vista startup i get 1995 to 2GHz once everything is loaded it drops to 1.2GHz no matter what I am doing, playing, editing graphics - it stays at this level.

 

6920G
Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 2GHz
BIOS v1.10, v1.14
Throttled for about 2 months now, but it seems to have gone away for now.

 

os i need to download the newer BIOS on purpose??

 

Excuse my ignorance, how did you test for throttling? I have stress tested my CPU with Orthos and it runs at the maximum 1.83GHz for the full few hours (at least according to RMClock), so I guess my 6920G doesn't throttle?

T5550 1.83GHz, BIOS V1.10

 

Well then, lucky you. Having such a low undervolt probably helps.

 

Because you use use undervolt and DOWNCLOCK your T5550.
I suppose T5550 should be 2.0GHz right?
Downclock the Speed(GHz) would make the processor spin slower and it create lesser heat. So, it won't reach the TM1(basically 55-60C due to stupid BIOS). That's why it won't throttle.

 

Nooo...T5750 is 2.0 GHz. T5550 is 1.83.

 

Correct, the T5550 is only 1.83GHz - there is no downlocking, just undervolting. TehSuigi, I thought you undervolted too?

 

I do, but not to that extent. 1.075V on top multi.

 

After vacuuming my laptop casing heavily, I got all my temperature(GPU and CPU) drop about 5C.
I tried to disable RMclock for testing purpose.
I used the CPU-Z(1.52beta) and HWmonitor(+5C to the reading is needed due to penryn core) to check to the speed and temperature.
Well, I check the CPU-Z and found that if I do not use RMclock, the Processor Core speed is actually raising up and down, it is overclocking itself and den downclocking itself(basically raise 100Mhz and den go back to normal frequently). I have no idea why it is like this.
OK. Now, gaming. The CPU still throttle. LOL. It kicks in throttle about 60C.
Nevermind. Another interesting stuff I found is CPU temperature/voltage does affect GPU temperature.

Experiment:
I turn-off RMclock and have my laptop at Maximal Performance using Power Option. As mentioned the Core speed is unstable(normal and overclock frequently) but it doesn't matter. The VID is 1.1375V.
Turn on the games, CPU throttle of course(after a few minutes), and the GPU temperature is 73C(max temperature). Forgot to mention my GPU 9500MGS overclocked 555/440/1200.

I turn-on RMclock(as mentioned before I have some registry tweaks on RMclock) and have it at Maximal Performance. 10.5x FID and 0.925V VID. The Core speed is stable with IDA disabled.
Turn on the games, CPU does not throttle at all. The GPU 9500M GS is only 69C-70C(max temperature).

 

so i've tried orthos for 21 minutes and the temeperature reached 65c, but the cpu speed remained the same. does it mean i'm okay??

i'm using t5750 2.0 bios 1.14

 

Try it about 1-2hours. If it no throttle occurs, I think you're in luck.
But be careful on your CPU temperature(65C seems high for 6920G). Because all I have is below 60C.

 

i continued the test till it reached 1 hour, the cpu speed remained the same. well maybe because it's hot (34C) where i'm living, and the humidity 70% and i did the test with no AC, the temp. reached 65c max averaging at 58-60.

 

Do you undervolt your laptop?
If you haven't, this might mean your laptop really out of throttle 100%.
Dessert or summer?
I suggest you to undervolt since your place is too hot. Undervolt can lowered down temperature a bit(5-10C) because the current flow would lessen. Current flow would create heat due to the resistance in the metal. Lessen the current flow would lessen the heat. Cheer~

 

Acer Aspire 6920G
T8100 & Geforce 9500M GS at stock
Bios 1.10 & 1.14
Windows 7 - No Acer Empowering Tools installed

My laptop throttles almost immediately when running orthos (stress cpu) and furmark (xtreme burning mode) at the same time.

The CPU seems to throttle at around 50c when the graphics card is at heavy load from furmark. It does not throttle from orthos or furmark alone - both have to be running at the same time.

 

What monitoring tools are you using? You should +5C to the software you use to monitor the temperature of your CPU. Only some software can read it correctly. RMclock and HWmonitor read -5C from the actual temperature. This is due to the penryn core of AS 6920G.

Some not recommended tweaks:
Try disabling PowerMizer(turn off GPU downclocking stuff).
How to disable PowerMizer,
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=273276
use this 1st then, http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=273276
and apply this. I don't know if this help. I have my PowerMizer disabled because my overclock(20%, if 5-10% it won't) causes the PowerMizer to downclock my GPU randomly together with my CPU. After disabling it, I can enjoy XD!

Permanent FIX(throttle gone) tweaks by myself, check this link, http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=393073
The reason why I suggest you this permanent FIX because you have the same specification as I do. It may work for you.

 

I use Real Temp to adjust my other programs, my 6920G was 15 deg C hotter than what most programs were reading (RMClock, HWMonitor, etc.)

 

Summer. do you have screenshot of what happens to orthos when the cpu throttles?

i've tried furmark with xtreme burning mode + fur renedering on, but i get only 5 fps, is that okay with this laptop? if i remove fur rendering (pressing spacebar) it becomes >200fps. why does it happen?

 

Of course the processor speed dropped. Well, I have fixed my throttling problem using some tweaks. This method is not suitable for all users.

 

yeah i saw your method. also, what update furmark? why does it run slow at 5 fps as i mentioned above?

 

This make sense because most Temperature monitoring tools read wrongly on newer laptop model. Most common case is the CPU being read 5C cooler.
But Real Temp suppose to show the correct 1. I tested it.
RMclock can show the correct 1 if you follow my tweak at my Permanent FIX topic.

@hna, I have no idea about furmark because I only uses Orthos to stress CPU.
Personally, gaming is the BEST solution to check throttle. Just get yourself games like Left 4 Dead(best for testing throttle due to it is CPU high intensive and GPU slightly intensive)

 

Reporting in.

Acer 6935G
P8400-2.26Ghz
Bios: 1.08-1.10-1.13

Throttle while running 3D Intensive application. Problem spotted on Bios 1.10.