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    Discussion in 'Acer' started by TehSuigi, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. marsusu

    marsusu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,
    when i launch prime 95, after 2 seconds it shutdown !!!!!
     

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  2. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    That's a problem.

    Reboot your computer. After it starts up, run ThrottleStop but don not check Chipset Clock Mod. Click on the Turn Off button in ThrottleStop so it is in monitoring mode only. We have to try to find out what is wrong with your computer first.

    When you start up Prime95, it lets you select how many threads you want to test. Can you run 1 thread of Prime95 without your computer shutting down? Try for about 5 minutes and if that is OK then stop Prime95 and do another test and try running 2 threads of Prime95, then 3 and then 4.

    Keep an eye on the Chip% column while testing to see if your computer goes to less than 100% for any of the tests.

    You might have a problem with your memory chips or something else. A computer should be able to run Prime95 without shutting down. Try running both the Blend test and the Small FFTs test. These tests will works different parts of your computer and will help me understand what the problem is so I can help you.

    The DTS column shows you how hot your CPU is getting and how far it is away from the throttling point due to heat. If Prime95 lasts for 5 minutes without shutting down, tell me what is the smallest number in that column.
     
  3. marsusu

    marsusu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,
    thanks to help me,
    well, when i try to run 1 thread, no problem about 5 mn.
    but when i tried 2 thread, 10s and shut down...........
    small FFsTest : shutdown 6s
    blend : shutdown 3s.....
    only when i see %chip with 1 thread, test 3 %chip :0.0 and the less DTS : 4
    I don't understand !!!!!!
    thanks
     
  4. burebista

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    Thermal shutdown I guess. Having DTS at 4 after 3 seconds of prime95 means a super-hot CPU and it's protecting himself by shutting down.
     
  5. marsusu

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    hello,dts was a 4, in the first test about 5 mn !!!! not 30 s .....
    in the game not shutdown , i found it when i use quick par ........
     
  6. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Core 2 based CPUs will lose stability and randomly reboot when you run them too hot.

    The heatsink on your laptop CPU might be loose. Did your laptop originally come with the Q9000 or did you add it later? If you can't fine a way to make this CPU run cooler then you might as well put a Dual Core CPU in your computer. The Quad is creating too much heat and your laptop is running way too hot.

    If Acer built this laptop with a Q9000 and a poor CPU cooler then they made a mistake. You will have to disassemble your laptop and see if the heatsink is tight to the CPU.

    If one thread of Prime95 causes a core temperature of 96C, that's way too much. It won't have a hope of running 2, 3 or 4 threads if one thread alone causes this much heat. When gaming, the video card will also create a lot of heat so it will be impossible to play for any length of time without the laptop rebooting.
     
  7. hna

    hna Notebook Consultant

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    i remeber running orthos with a stress on cpu, and temps reaching 90's causing my laptop to turn off.

    but with undervolting, it reaches 70's
     
  8. marsusu

    marsusu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,
    well, my cpu is original, my question if i change thermic pate, it will be good ???
    thanks to help me
     
  9. jgarciac

    jgarciac Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have the same problem.

    Sametimes the notebook shutdown around 70-75 º C when I pass the test of stress from Everest.
     
  10. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    If you do a good job it will be good. I think the cooling system on some Acer laptops is not very good. If it was my computer, I'd open it up and see if the heatsink is tight to the CPU and I'd replace the thermal paste. If it is not tight then you might have to invent a way so the heatsink is tighter. This makes a big difference to cooling.

    Acer should not use the Q9000 if the CPU cooler and fan they are using is not capable of cooling this powerful and hot CPU.

    Once you make sure the cooler is OK then you can try to do some under volting.
     
  11. marsusu

    marsusu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,
    Well,i phone acer support, explain the problem, pc under warranty,
    the pc go to acer manufacture, repare it and comme back, i said you if it's ok after .............i hope !!!!
    thanks
     
  12. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    That was a good idea to send it back. It is generating way too much heat which can be a sign of the CPU cooler not being installed correctly. If it is still under warranty then it is smart to let them fix it. Send me a PM message when you get it back and I'll try to check this thread once in a while.
     
  13. marsusu

    marsusu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,
    well i call acer, because it's a funny business.............
    the probleme is windows seven...........because computer before was with vista. (but i tell us it's you dvd with the special operation....etc .....)
    i wait a quote, and after call them for explain that , it's crazy ..........
    i thinks never acer ............
     
  14. marsusu

    marsusu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,
    hello, the new, acer change motherboard and processeur and the fan !!!!!
    and orthos is ok now.
    but i wait and see !!!!!
    thanks
     
  15. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    HAHA throttlestop is letting my x9100 go higher :D
     
  17. ergoen

    ergoen Newbie

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    Okay, throttlestop has been solving my clock problems on windows for quite a while now, so huge thanks for that unclewebb.
    Now, I'm currently doing some dualbooting with ubuntu (they finally fixed so that surround sound works =D), and obviously the same throttling issue appears there aswell, has anyone hade any experience in solving it there? (should i just try running throttlestop with wine?)
     
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  19. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Meaker: Have the higher MHz given you any problems with more throttling? The Dells tend to throttle based on power consumption so running the CPU faster with more core voltage isn't always a good idea. Not that I've heard too many complaints about this so far. :)

    3.7 GHz out of a C0 stepping is very good with VID at only 1.30 volts.
     
  20. Quakecry

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    Well, my Acer: 6935G shuts down where throttling would normally happen, as the temperatures increase way to much. I mean, you should have a way of making the program so, that the computer will not get that warm. Without your program my computer is cool, but then my pc throttles, but with your program they don't throttle, but the computer shuts down <.<
    I have been thinking of calling acer support, but dno if i have a warranty :p
     
  21. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    I'm a good programmer but I can't fix Acer's poorly designed cooling solution. If you have cleaned out the dust bunnies and it still runs hot then it is what it is, crap.

    What CPU are you using? Are you using ThrottleStop to lower your CPU core voltage? That can make a huge difference to your CPU temperatures and will also reduce your overall laptop temperature.

    You can use ThrottleStop to create your own throttling profiles that are not nearly as severe as what Acer is using. In the Options... section of ThrottleStop you can set it up to change profiles automatically based on CPU or GPU temperature. That's very flexible in my opinion. Switch to a profile that slows the CPU down when the temps are getting sky high. That's better than the laptop shutting down.
     
  22. Quakecry

    Quakecry Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hmm. Can you help me? I have an acer 6935G. I think i have a P7350.
    Which settings chould i choose in throttlestop? So i can lower my CPU core voltage?
     
  23. AcerInsider

    AcerInsider Notebook Consultant

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    You can input your serial number here to check warranty status:

    Find System
     
  24. Quakecry

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    So i went to the store i bought the computer on, and as a last attempt, before i may send it for repair, i got them to clean with compressed air. So as we speak, i've played for over an hour, without throttlestop enabled. So it looks like removing all the dust, removed the problem ;)
     
  25. TehSuigi

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    Good to hear you're up and gaming again, Quakecry. You'd be surprised how many people neglect to de-schmutz their system.
    I've had to use ThrottleStop a few times recently because of the warmer weather, actually.
     
  26. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    JasonYe, I moved your post to the general ThrottleStop thread in Hardware Components & Upgrades - this topic is meant for Acer-related issues only.
     
  27. Angelwings

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    Well, it looks like people finally listened...Ive gone from the little girl who new nothing and was ignored, to the girl that new more than most.

    Who's laughing now
    Next time they might listen to me..

    :)..Kevin your work is wicked, thanks mate.. haha, that felt so go to say and they so deserved it...told you Id drop in..

    Sophie
     
  28. TehSuigi

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    Angelwings, please don't cross-post over both topics.
    But that being said, kudos are certainly due.
     
  29. Angelwings

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    Thank you, sorry about the cross post, that means alot to me, I really appreciate it TehSuigi

    Sophie :)
     
  30. Kersey

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    I was just about to smash my 6920g to pieces as gaming has got almost impossible on it recently, probably the humid weather doesn't help, then I found this thread.

    I've read through it but would like you guys / gals to confirm that what I'm doing is ok as a lot of what I read I didn't quite understand.

    I am running Rightmark CPU Utility on a 'performance on demand' profile in which I have adjusted the VID to a stable voltage.

    [​IMG]

    I leave the Rightmark utility on performance on demand and then have Throttlestop running as below with Chipset Clock Mod ticked and Throttlestop enabled.

    [​IMG]

    Is this all I need to do. I have had a quick game of GTA4 which ran very well but will need to play a little longer to really test.

    Is it worth turning Throttlestop on or off when not gaming or just having it continually running in the background with Rightmark Utility??

    Any help is appreciated :)
     
  31. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    You don't even need RMClock - undervolting just helps keep things running cool.
    ThrottleStop with the Chipset Clock Mod set to 100% is all you need to enjoy your system again.
    You can certainly have it running in the background all the time - it'll just sit there and let RMClock or Windows handle the frequency of the CPU.
     
  32. Kersey

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    Thank for the reply...glad what I'm doing is correct.

    Think I'll leave RMClock to keep things undervolted, have Throttlestop running in the background and enable it when I'm gaming.

    Can't wait to give it a good try out tomorrow after work...GTA 4 here I come :D
     
  33. Atik

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    Hello everybody, i just registered :)
    I have a Acer Aspire 7745G with core i5-450m, i was searching a way to overclock it but just couldnt find any, so the question is, is it possible to force the turboboost always on using Throttlestop
    p.s my temp in idle is about 36C and on full run about 62-65
     
  34. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hello Atik, and welcome to the forums!
    ThrottleStop isn't able to force a higher performance state on anything other than a Core 2 Duo, and can't overclock non-Extreme CPUs otherwise.
     
  35. StaFForD

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    I have read up on this program and am wanting to try it

    after downloading I tried to start the program and I get an error stating "Could not open WinRing0.dll"

    After further research I found a reply stating that it could be in use by other programs and not allowing access. Unfortunately I have systematically closed programs to try to find any other program using this driver and nothing has worked.

    Any other advice would be appreciated because I would love to see how this works on my laptop

    thanks
     
  36. TehSuigi

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    Can't say I ran into this problem before - try running it as an administrator, if you aren't already.
     
  37. Feoras

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    I remember this happening to me when "RealTemp" was started before Throttlestop.
     
  38. Jdpurvis

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    After using Throttlestop successfully for a couple of days, I am now getting a Winring0.dll error (could not open..). I really like throttlestop. Problem was not fixed by re-downloading 3.001 of the program. Any thoughts?

    Joe
     
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    Will this be any good for a i5 480m?
     
  40. rotamonkey

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    hi there, Ive upgraded my celeron to a t7200 in a 4310 and got the modded bios to allow eist and some other features and I need to have throttlestop running for it to work. I am having trouble with getting scheduler to make it run on startup, have tried setting it to run as admin etc. maybe someone could point me in the direction of a write up to get this program running on startup? thanks

    just had to change it to start at user log in instead of start up all good!
     
  41. drdoomgod

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    Hey, very nice, informative thread! I have a 4830tg (with an ssd and 8gb ram) and just want to make sure i got everything right:

    idea is to use throttlestop to lower temp before the stupid acer throttle-it-to-1,2ghz kicks in:

    2 profiles:

    A) default: nothing activated but EIST and C1E

    B) cool: active: set Multiplier: 26, Power Saver, EIST, C1E

    options: Alarm on: DTS 15, GPU 73% both "use profile 2"


    Questions: is this set up right / optimal? does the profile switch back to default (full mhz) by default?

    thank you very much
     
  42. unclewebb

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    For Profile 1 I would check Set Multiplier and set that to Turbo. For Profile 2 you might need to use a lower multiplier than 26 to keep the CPU from getting too hot. 73C for the GPU isn't very hot.

    ThrottleStop is designed to switch back and forth between Profile 1 and Profile 2 automatically based on CPU or GPU temperature. Try using the Log File option if you want to confirm that this is working correctly for you. Use a much lower Profile 2 multiplier when testing so it will be easy to see it switching back and forth in the log file.

    The 3830 forum is a good place for further information. Lots of happy ThrottleStop users in there. :)

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/553306-acer-timelinex-3830-4830-5830-t-g-344.html
     
  43. ajbutch123

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    so I need to setup multiple profiles? I just have the gaming profile online with the chipset clock mod selected and my cpu idles around 25c and tops out at about 68c after running prime95 with the small fft test for a very long time.(2 hours)
     
  44. ajnauron

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    Well, you don't need to set up multiple profiles, if you wanted to you could do it manually. For example, on the 3830TG, throttling occurs only when the CPU and GPU are under heavy load at the same time, so when I'm only doing regular productivity tasks I can set my CPU multiplier to the max, 21x. Then if I want to game I'll set it to 17x. You can do it manually or set it up.
     
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    hi unclewebb
    i have a atom n280 (i thing soldered) and can run it undervolted to 0.9500V with all multiplers from 6x to 10x without problems. default min. vid i can set is also 0.9500V for all multiplers. I read the msr and it say also that intel stored this info into cpu that min vid is 0.9500.
    My question, is there really absolutly no way to change this info in cpu that min vid is 0.9500V?(i want run with lower voltage)
    sry for my genglish and thanks very much for answer.
     
  46. marsjee

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    Can somebody upload this program on another website ? This mirror seems to be down for 2 days now :(

    Nvm, got it now..
    But sadly enough, it doesn't work for the Acer 5750g, either does RMclock. i can not change any settings in Rmclock.
    I can change some settings in Trottlestop, but it has no effect.
     
  47. ex.treme

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    Acer Travelmate 7750G I3-2310M. Is possible undervolt this cpu with TS?
    Under load run at 21x100- 2100MHz with 1.150v, and the noise is annoying.
    I think lower voltage help me a little. At 8x100- run 0.8v.
    I can't change the voltage at TS 4.0.

    Every little load buzz up fan :(
     
  48. tamiya214

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    http://www.acer.com.ph/ac/en/PH/content/model/LX.RRD0C.005
    acer 4755g

    hmm been using this for a month now
    this program works

    if only this support under-volt i3/5/7 voltage control

    i capped my laptop to 2.0ghrtz for the moment it heat around 83c-87c
    whenever i'm playing with a room temperature of 30c

    if i 3.0ghrtz it (turbo boost) my gwad 93c to 97c O_O while gaming
    even with laptop cooling pad...

    and yeah IT works.
    no more suddenly tering fps...
     
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