The Official Arrandale Timeline Thread

At Cebit Engadget covered the 8372's which are the Travelmate versions of these Timeline's, but showed nothing of these new consumer Timeline's.

 

This definitely needs a lot more coverage. Personally, I'm very interested in the overall category of <=14" with Core i CPU and upper-midrange switchable graphics. To the best of my knowledge, the only laptops in this category are the Lenovo Y460, Acer Timeline 3820/4820, ASUS N82, and VAIO Z.

 

The review unit had an estimated price of $850 for their i5/5470 setup.

If the i5/5650 configuration is $1,000... i'm buying ASAP.

 

You got that right!! I'll sell my CW and P (and my pinky toe) to get one with the i5/5650!

 

I know the Acers processor blows the M11x out the water, But doesnt the M11x have a better GPU?

 

So, will Acer offer a higher res screen or will it be going with the standard 13in resolution?

 

Quick.. rename this thread to the "Official Acer 3820T Thread"

 

ATI 5650 >>>> GeForce 335M >> ATI 5470

http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5650.23697.0.html 3D Mark 05 Score: 13408
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-335M.24060.0.html 3D Mark 05 Score: 9798
http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5470.23698.0.html 3D Mark 05 Score: 6062

Looks like it'll be the standard 1366x768 res.

 

That and the weight are the 2 major drawbacks of this unit. But, it has great specs and a great price. 13"/I7-620M/HD5650/4GB DDR3/4lbs at $1,000. A Sony Z, configured with an I7 would be over $2,000. 13"/I7-620M/GT330M/4GB DDR3/3lbs. At that price, however, the Sony comes configured with a 128 SSD and can be ordered with a full HD Display for $50 (only not in the US yet ). The Sony has the better keyboard and probably better build quality (how well is the 3810 built?). On the other hand, the I7-620M/HD5650 will probably outperform the Sony's I7-620M/GT330M. The Sony, in Premium Carbon or Metal Mosaic is the more elegant business machine.

I could see spending the extra money to get a lighter notebook. The Acer's performance tugs in the opposite direction. Nice to see some competition in the 13" segment.

Anybody who has experience with Acer products, how long before we should look for one of these at retailers?

Bronsky

 

When is this coming out?? It is down to this or the UL/PL 30JT.

 

I have a few things to note
1)I said it cost 1.1K (USD) with education discount so it means without education discount it should cost 1.4-1.5K not 1K
2)There MIGHT be heat issues 5650HD in a ultrathin laptop doesn't bode well especially for Acer.

 

I think I am in the same boat also

 

According to Acer's website, neither of them would be equiped with an optical drive.

It's a pity, I might have to settle with the lack of the optical drive, a lot of new portables tend to get rid of it, well, maybe it's time to make friends with external drives.

 

I dont want an optical drive so this may be a perfect choice

 

Wikipedia claims the HD 5650 has a TDP of 15-19W, so heat shouldn't be that much of a problem.

 

Where can i buy the 3820T? or when

 

it costs that much? where, link please

and im thinking if i should get this or the n82jv, the slim profile is kinda making me lean towards waiting for this baby

 

You can't forget that the 17W TDP of the 5650 and then add that to the 35W TDP of the i5/i7 procesor and you get 52W. I've owned an acer in the past, and they have some heating issues, like the entire thing heats up like crazy. So, I'm not sure how they are planning to solve this problem, but I hope they do, the specs are amazing.

 

Man, I believe I just found my next notebook!! really, it's almost the same weight as this UL30JT but with MUCH more powerfull components... also in comparasion with the M11x it's so better with lower weight, 13.3'' screen, core iX CPU, ATI card (wich is 40nm and much more power consumption wise)... I will just wait for a review to see if the ergonomics (temperature, trackpad, keyboard) are good for daily use and i'm ready to go...

 

Yeah, i am not too happy about the new Intel-CPUs with 35W.

The old good Penryns do have a 25W TDP. That's a rather big jump from 25W to 35W.
But there are no real alternatives...

 

Thats 35W, but remember that it also includes the graphics chip and some part of the chipset... Overall the new processors are significantly more energy efficient than the 25W penryns...

 

i went to the acer website for the Acer Timeline 3280T...

But i'm quite sad & dissapointed with Acer coz they put in this el cheapo wireless card in this laptop...

"Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 1000 b/g/n"

This card only works on 2.5 ghz wireless band.... :-( It wont work on a 5 ghz band. So all you people with simultaneous dual band router or even with a single radio dual band router you cant use this laptop on thr 5ghz band. That's pathetic...!!!

Acer should have atleast put in a Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 or a Centrino Advanced-N 6200 if not one with Wimax support....!!!

I mean in this age of dual band routers is it too much to ask for a dual band wireless card in a laptop...????????

 

No dual band?!?! Wow, I agree, acer may have future proofed the graphics card and the processor, but if the wifi card isn't to snuf, I maybe slowly creeping back to the asus ul30jt/pl30jt.

 

well, that's easy to fix, there's plenty of USB and expresscard devices for wi-fi...

 

im guessing thats the 5100 wifi card? well not really a big deal for me

what is a big deal is the warranty, i have to get this laptop locally if i would be getting this

 

Wonder if it would have a backlit keyboard.

 

No, its Intel Centrino Wireless 1000.

 

with my luck, probly not...

 

They probably would mention that in the technical specifications if it did have a backlit keyboard...which they don't so I'm guessing it doesn't.

 

I don't care about backlit keyboards, personally.

 

if the 5820 had a higher res screen Id be sold... so friggin sick of 1366x768 res screens on notebooks with screens larger than 13 inches

 

Acer comes with Cheapo wireless Modules and standard display.
I guess this is how they can offer better specs at lower prices.
Not that it matters to me.
It is already a bargain anyway.
Acer is not known to whitelist wireless card in their laptop so an upgrade should be a piece of cake.

 

nobody has really answered this question.....

when would this be available for purchase in the United States?

this laptop looks perfect for me:
*excellent processor
*excellent graphics card
*14" screen option
*thin and looks like a quality build (I really like Asus aside from the cheap plastic feel)
*very reasonably priced if the estimates are correct

 

We don't know as well.
Acer never sell directly to consumers they sell via 3rd party resellers.

 

Would it kill them to put a higher resolution screen in the 15 inch, I mean come on....

 

absolutly agree, man. I mean, I'm not even asking for full hd, just gimme 1600x900 and I'd be happy.

 

Agreed. I'd easily pay a decent premium for a higher res screen. But then again I'm in a niche market, and the majority of people prefer a lower costing laptop.

 

Personally I don't see the point of high reso on a small screen.
Here is why:
1)If the screen cracks it will cost a bomb to replace it(if you are out of warranty).
2)For gaming we have anti-aliasing to make up for image quality
3)A high base cost for a laptop may result due to a variety of parts for 1 model number
4)If you really want the screen you can do the upgrade yourself but it is going to be costly.Things like screens are generic and replaceable but electronic components like the boards are less upgradable.

 

I'm concerned about heat. The lappy is nice and thin. Hopefully they set up the vents right.

 

Heres some new for y'all.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100305PD216.html

 

Great news! Thanks.

 

Wow, these will still get 8 hours of battery life, just image how great the Sandy Bridge Timeline's will be. Still wish these had LM Core i's instead of the M's.

 

what is LM?

If it's ultra low voltage I agree Accer could at least offer them in the configure to buy mode...

also, I believe it would be wise to change this topic title to include the model name of the notebook... it's so vague the way it is.

 

wait its still ULV? lame. how is the performance of these ULV i processors?

 

Initial heat benchmarks for the Sony Vaio Z, I7-620M and GT 330M GPU are 39-83C for the I7 and 58-80c for the GT 330M GPU. I would guess that the HD 5650 would operate cooler than the NVIDIA 330M GPU. Sony seems to have dealt with any heat issues from the I7 quite well. This could be good news for the 3820T.

Bronsky

 

anything higher than 40 C in the down part makes it impossible to work with it over you, like in bed...

how the 2 graphic cards will work in this one? is there a switching button or something like that?

 

These aren't ulv.

"LM" are the low voltage processors. These have a 25W TDP and offer close to the same performance as a 35W "M" processor, but give off less heat. They are inbetween the "UM" ultra low voltage found in the Asus UL30JT and the standard voltage found in this Acer.

 

I would like to see those as option for this notebook.

 

LOL. Never thought about working with my laptop in bed over my head. Trying to envision that typing position. I was thinking more like having the unit in my lap at an airport. It'll probably spend most of its life on my desk top. Anyway, the temps are measured in the core, the Sony appears to stay cool to the touch and does not get hot. Hopefully Acer will be able to vent its I7-620M/HD 5650 as efficiently.

 

hehe aparently I wasn't very sucessfull in my try to express something in english hehehe I was trying to figure out how to say "over your legs or adbomen in the bed" so I tried "over you" but now I see it wasn't an wise choice hehehe anyways, that's exactly the only thing I'm waiting for to close the deal on the 3820, it's trackpad and keyboard quality and how it handle the heat when using the chipset VGA...