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It's funny ... I only bought an Acer 1410T-2920 to hold me over for a month or so until I could get the 3820TG. It has already been a month and I've started to customize the 1410T. So far, bluetooth, 4GB DDR2 and I just ordered the 40GB intel X25 SSD. I should have the SSD installed by Monday. At this point, I am starting to love the size of my 1410T and its enhanced performance.
With the delays getting the 3820TG to the US market, Im glad I upgraded my 1410. It will make the wait tolerable.
Bronsky
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No point in asking whether to get the 1810T or not when you have clearly decided to wait for the 1830T. If by around the corner, you mean august/september, then yah wait for it but seriously, stop asking pointless questions. Have fun tugging your powerbrick for half a year or so
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Without the UL30JT to compete with, the TimelineX 3820TG should sell even better.
Bronsky
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I just gave up waiting for the 3820tg and pulled the trigger on the Sony Vaio VPCZ112GX/S. *gulp* Goodbye money! Hello 3.08 lbs!
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I have a cousin that goes to ngee ann polytechnic and just put in an order in for a 3820
, he's going to ship it to me when it arrives (we shipped it to his dorm, the whole thing was charged to my credit card) I'll post an unboxing video when I receive it!
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culv delayed and rejected for use as-is by Acer is no surprise. anand told us about the culv concern back in january :
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2902/5
i can see why...a prospect of a 8+ hour battery life at 1 gigahertz on 2 real cores for 300+$ dollars is not all that exciting.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Arrandale.22_.28ultra-low_voltage.3B_32_nm.29
u can get that performance today from a custom netbook at 1.6 ghz with small ssd for a fraction of the price for most peoples needs. what is needed is to ramp capacity and clock speed of culv core-i to make it viable for the $, or cheaper. for that matter i am surprised there has not been talk of leveraging the in-between 25W versions of core-i . with those chips we are looking at solid 2-3 ghz range performance with 10+ hours battery life on a decent sized display..odd if you ask me i guess the business does not believe the economy is That good yet?
the real question: anyone have any idea if the 4820 will offer ability to take out dvd drive and drop in a Hard drive into that space, instead? that might be perfect for me since the 1st drive is gona be a 160 intel ssd, i really like the idea of adding a spinning 640 gig for more space...but need a second bay.... i noticed the existing timelines 4810 come with dvd drive as well. can any owners of the 4810 comment if you can replace the dvd with a hdd ? i could not find any info on this. this might be the deal breaker for me between the 13 and 14..if 14 does not offer the 2nd hdd ability, the 13 is a better buy for me
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in benchmarks the atom gets killed no doubt. in practice i stuck the intel 160 ssd into my gfs netbook with an atom n270, and in reality it provides a better user experience (the thing just works faster) then my toshiba tecra a6 with a "real" dual core cpu at 2ghz and Dual Channel memory. on paper the toshiba should win every time, in real life the netbook is faster. toshiba has 7200 rpm 320 gig hdd in it, netbook the ssd. overall cost to provide either experience i think is about the same, just how u go about it....
[2nd edit: battery life is the key differentiator here, which is probably why my initial post is confusing. sorry! in my situation battery life on the atom destroys the core2, even tho my experience is about the same on either machine. based on what i have seen and read even the culv core2duo doesn;t beat the atom battery life, so for me; a faster cpu does very little to no benefit. even more context i have a q6600 desktop overclocked 4gb ram with a 5870 with a 1 tb black os drive. in my experience the atom+ssd provides the same experience in office/surfing/flash/email as my desktop , just not gaming. benchmark wise my desktop destroys across the board, but i never do 3d animation, compiling, db operation or video encoding or anything else thread heavy to really take advantage of all that cowbell... ]
i believe core-i culv at 1 ghz + hdd would be slightly worse user experience for most "basic" users than atom+ssd, and i think acer and asus "get it". but, if i understood acers decision it is really neither of those, so it's kind of a mute point. i think this is why sony did the z the way they did, and why they have the "edge" altho the custom samsung pcb for the ssd is dealbreaker for me there. [edit: the out-of-the-box user experience with the z model with ssd there must be amazing with a real core-i, but i am not budging due to custom pcb as mentioned]
i was also thinking about 25watter for the 1830 as well as others, but i think cost is the issue. the premium for even 25watt core-i over 35 watt or core2Culv might be too scary of a risk for acer and the like
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I found a cheap Z through ebay, and after Bing cashback it cost me $1564. Which is pretty much buying a 128GB SSD and the quality difference in the Sony screen. I hope. Really hope. Might get the Z by the end of next week. Hope I didn't screw up on this one!
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i get yer point, and i agree completely. for some users, who are cpu bound on the atom, the difference with ssd+ real dual core will be very noticeable.
for me specifically i need reasonable gaming (5650 or more) on dx11 and high quality sound (over hdmi, or optical mini jack) with Good Driver Support in 13 or 14 inch thin frame around 4lb or less, that uses standard format ram and standard size 2.5 or 1.8" drives. the rest of the machine is there to support the video card and processor speed is mostly irrelvenant other than it's affect on framerate in games ( i am certain even the lowly core 430 would suffice in all my other needs after upgrade to one of the fast ssds). i am willing to pay for aesthetics and ergonomics and maybe even bragging rights of having an arrandale i-7 inside as well; so the 3820/4820 seem like very viable options...only options i found so far?
i was wondering if anyone has information about the 4810/4820 dvd drive can be replaced with a hdd cage instead?
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I have no money, so nope (saving up for a new camera, Panasonic GF2). Sandy Bridge bridge goodies ( USB 3.0, Sata-6GBs, 32nm cpu/gpu on 32nm die). Q1 2011, Acer 1840t.
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Don't tease me mate, I almost fell of my chair from the excitement when I thought of how great it would be...
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Guys here is an article on how Acer is able to achieve such great battery life with their new timeline x series!
http://www.latestgadgets.co.uk/laptops-notebooks/751-new-acer-timelinex-laptops
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And the first thing that a lot of us will do is take that 40% less power harddrive and swap it for an SSD.
@Raptor5150 - this is still no anounced release date for the US. The UK is May. I am waiting patiently.
Bronsky
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Yea. That was my point.
Although it won't draw as much power as a 5400 RPM whirlling away, it will probably draw more than the -40% unit Acer is putting in the TimelinesX.
Bronsky
@Jayayess1190 - glad to hear that. I'm putting an X-25 40GB in my 1410T as soon as it arrives on Monday. -
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Vaporware batteries always last longer than real devices.
Let's see a real 3820TG with similar specs and then we can compare them.
Bronsky
The Official Arrandale Timeline Thread
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