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I need to upgrade my travel eee 1000HA pc and soon, the 1024 x 600 res is just killing me for my needs. VGA out sucks too, need HDMI

Come on acer release it faster and with English keyboard and Win7 pls... Its ether this 3820TG or a UL30jt which ever i can get in a few weeks or I have to resort to a UL30vt...Which isn't bad but now last gen..

 

@spencerattack

Ive been using the multi-touch on my 9" acer AAO110 which is pretty much the cheapest netbook out there with no problems. I've used a friend's macbook pro before and frankly am not impressed by it at all. Ive never owned a macbook myself, but from my experience with apple products (3 iPods so far before I grew a brain), contrary to popular opinion, they do not have better build quality, they do not have better parts, the product itself does not have "better" anything. Apple however does have better advertising, and better customer service, both of which contribute heavily toward better mainstream public reputation. You seem to REALLY like the MBP. In that case, I actually suggest you get the MBP and be happy with it. From my experience with people who use and love Macs, even if the product they're using is superior in every way to their beloved Macs, they never fail to find stuff to gripe about, and eventually return to the Mac community saying something along the lines of "I never you should have switched. The MBP is truly the God of mobile computing. So is the iPad!".

To answer your question, you can scroll using side scrolling, you can use two finger scrolling or you can use twirl to scroll, that's 3 options just for scrolling on this touchpad, and you can disable any of them if you don't like them. I dont know how much customization your MBP gives with your touchpad, I'm sure it's just amazing too!

 

man acer is so slow

 

I don't know if someone already said this, but the 3820Tg with the i5-430M and 5650 is also available in switzerland for about $1100 (830€

ht tp://w ww.architronic.ch/Computer/Acer/Aspire-Timeline-3820TG-434G32n-Intel-I5-430M-001336860/

also, in taiwan they have the i5-520m for about $1380

ht tp://ww w.mdcomputer.co.th/md/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2605&osCsid=42dc9641a0c9d7bb156b42f239341512

 

but we don't want i5 430m

 

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You could fry an egg on the manifold of a car too, don't mean it aint working right. : ) 87C is about 190F, so you could fry an egg on Arclord's I7-620M CPU. Early reviews of the Y460 were real critical but I think the better measure is how what the owners are reporting. That's why I suggested he check the forums.

I'm posting this here in case any of you have not seen the 3820TG unboxing thread. It looks so cool. It's an I7-620M. Check it out.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/479584-acer-aspire-3820t.html

 

Not sure if it has been posted, but there is a good review here of the 3820TG with the i5 / 5650

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Edit: They post max of 80 degrees c when benchmarking using prime. Not too bad then? This is why I'm after the i5 not i7...80c vs mid 90s was it?

 

Thanks, but do any ship to Spain or overseas in that case for others?

Anyone got a link to a dealer that ships internationally and English keyboard?

 

ewglossybezel

 

Gorgeous indeed. Damn, never thought I'd wish to be Singaporean lol.

Guess I'll have to go with the alienware mx11 Great to live in the USA ain't it?

 

Anyone have info regarding South Korea's release date?

 

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I'm torn. I want to find a computer that will last for about four years (solid build quality) and work smoothly with newer applications (so decent internals are important too). After I retire this Thinkpad T60 that I'm typing on (love the keyboard!) my next laptop will be my only rig. Portability is another factor, since I will be carrying this thing around all day. I would say 3820TG and 13" MBP are about equal in this regard. The hardware/software integration of Apple laptops appeals to me, but I am not satisfied with the "refresh" of the 13" MBP. I figure, though, for my needs I will probably not notice much of a difference (except when gaming). And the backlit keyboard of the MBP is a nice touch, but I don't really need it. The screen on the MBP is probably superior to the 3820TG.

If the price of the 3820TG is roughly the same as the MBP ($1200) it will be a really tough call. I'll wait to see some reviews of the Acer when it comes to the US. If the 3820TG hits for $1000 or less I think I'll probably be writing Acer a nice little check.

 

Currently it cost around 1700 SGD or 1200USD for the TG version.
The 5650HD slaughters the G 320M, it is a walkover in terms of performance.
Not to mention it is a i5/i7 vs a Core 2 Duo (crap).
Batterylife superior on a 9 cell bat.
IMO there is no tough call to make...
Like UNIX?
Install Ubuntu or OpenSUSE.
There problem solved.
Historically Acer Laptops have always been Linux Friendly.

 

It all depends on your priorities, but if you're willing to settle for the 13" MBP performance, then you could also buy a cheaper model of the 3820 than the 3820TG.

 

I got the cooler for the Dell M4400 which I was previously using cos that laptop was really really hot, but I doubt the Acer will be that hot without the cooler. See my previous post. I'll try without the cooler and post a feedback later..

 

Its the i7-620 model with build in optical drive, 5650 Ati card, 4GB ram

 

which is your country?

 

The Reason for the mediocre MBP "refresh" is that without a major redesign, the 13" MBP Case/cooling design only accomodates a CPU + Chipset solution without dedicated graphics.

The Problem stems from the poor 3D Performance / poor drivers for intel integrated graphics on OSX.

So since a dedicated graphics card is out of the question and there is no Nvidia graphics chipset for the Core iX Platform Apple had to go with the Core2Duo.

The Acer has a totaly redesigned cooling system from the 3810TG, and with that a redesigned case.

So Apple sacrificed the possible performance of their 13" Model for the sake of being able to reuse their basic cooling & case design across all 3 Models.

15" and 17" Predecessors had CPU+Chipset+dedicated GPU => Can be Core iX + Chipset + dedicated GPU
13" PRedecessor had CPU+Chipset => Can't be Core iX CPU + dedicated Graphics, so isn't updated to Core iX at all.


If you're not an Apple Fanboy, don't let your buying decision reinforce Apples belief that mantaining a Lines successful Casedesign justifies putting in outdated tech in the smaller formfactor Models.

 

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Actually, Apple used the core2duo processor coz of the licensing problem nvidia got with intel concernig nvidia's own chipset. Nvidia had the patent to create its own chipset only for the core2duo line and the patent is no longer valid for the new i series line. The macbook pro uses the gt320m and therefore is limited only to the core2duo cpu's.

 

The Patent issue is the reason why there is no nVidia Chipset for the Core iX Line, but doesn't Change the fact that there is none available.

Thus, like i said, Apple couldn't build a Core iX + nVidia MBP 13" with a 2-chip solution and were unwilling/unable to redesign it to accomodate a 3-chip solution with dedicated nVidia Card like in the 15" and 17" Models.

 

If your considering getting the I7-620M I would suggest reading reviews of the Apple 17MBP with the same chip. It is running in the Apple at 101C, exceeding its max temp at times and throttling down. The Aluminum body seems to conduct the heat making the computer's use uncomfortable. Of the computers that use the I7-620M, The Fijitsu seems to have tamed the chip the best (81C max), the Sony next (84C) and the Acer next (87C-89C) and then there is the Mac 17 (101C+)(I havent included Lenvoo, etc, with integrated graphics). The Fijitsu is helped by the small GPU (310M) in it. Although the Acer temps are high, they are not unstable nor are they throttling. The cooling system seems to be able to deal with the heat. Still, the temps seem high to me.

I would still like to see what can be done in the Acer to bring the temps down, but for most buyers, I would stick to an I5-520M or 540M. It would be nice to compare the temps of a 540M to the 620M's core temps.

Bronsky

@luca.azzo Maybe Acer realizes that the more desirable chip in the 3820TG will be the 540M due to the I7's heat issues.

 

[/QUOTE]@luca.azzo Maybe Acer realizes that the more desirable chip in the 3820TG will be the 540M due to the I7's heat issues.[/QUOTE]
i hope so

 

i hope you're right

 

does anyone here have the 4820TG, how good is the screen when used outdoors?

i dont trust notebookjournal.de review of its screen as it only rates it 1 1/2 stars, and so does other notebooks that i have previously owned and used outdoors which i think is satisfactory to be used under glare

 

No excuse they could have made a board with Intel Chipset for the 13 inch or simply shrink the 15" board and dump the super drive to make space.
They can also offer an alternative Core i3 13" model but no they are just too lazy and why should they do it when they can continue to rake in cash from old parts?
It is not as if Intel will suddenly say: Yes I allow you make Nvidia Chipset for my CPU in 2011"
They will have to do it sooner or later, not doing it now just shows they are just a bunch of greedy, lazy money grubbers.

 

How come 4820TG get so much better results in like everything? It's the same hardware I mean...

 

Battery runtime / power comsuption wise the difference may be caused by the dual vents, the 4820 TG only has one.

Graphics performance wise the difference is related to the PCI-E issue, it uses 1x instead of 16 X PCI-E lanes (correct me if I'm wrong, not sure whether I stated these correctly), this seems to be driver/BIOS related.
Arclord claimed his 3820 TG (620M+HD5650) uses 16x PCI-E in window mode, thus no problem with gaming, while in full screen mode, the GPU triggers down to 1x PCI-E, making the use less fun.

 

Acer's buggy BIOS/EFI strikes again...

 

Ok I just tested playing Star Trek online on my 4820TG for about an hour without turning on the laptop cooler, but my laptop is still siting on top of it, so there might be better ventilation underneath but cooler fan is not on.

I can feel the heated air blowing out from the left vent, and the area around the vent is hot but I don't feel you can cook an egg around it

The left palm rest is warm, but not uncomfortably hot, "feels" like high 30s or low 40s degrees celsius

But the surprising thing is the bottom of the laptop is much cooler then the left palm rest its hardly even warm

 

How do you find the screen quality? And how's the fan noise (does it pulse on and off occasionally, or is it constantly on)?

 

Legolin, follow up on convulted's request, how is the screen quality outdoors?

 

I didnt really notice if the fan turns on or off cos i couldn't hear any sound of it winding up or down.

I guess thats a good thing tho...

Screen quality.. well it's very bright ... when you plug it in , and drops a bit when running on batteries

 

I don't think there's much chance of me using it outdoors...

Even if its "outdoors" its gonna be inside a building, I don't carry it to parks and such..

On a side note.. I'm very pleased with the weight of this laptop, makes my Dell M4400 feels like dumb bells

 

Legolin, to confirm, the bottom of the laptop remains relatively cool even after you gamed for an hour? The area around the fan that you said is hot, is that the bottom area or next to the fan?

 

why there's so much differences between 4820tg and 3820tg? Isn't the hardware the same?

 

Hi,

I'm a new user of 3820TG for almost 5 days. Been a lurker for a while. I just want to ask the other 3820TG owner if they notice any minor monitor flickering when it's running on batt. Is tht normal?

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Just noticed a 3820T thread, posted my question there too...

 

this is what i wanted to hear, thank you for that

and about the heat, im sure its pretty standard considering the small chasis of the laptop,

warm palm rests and warm surface temperatures are again pretty standard to me, and i came from a 5920g and a y450 (130m). now those are hot.

 

What would be interesting would be for someone with an I7-620M/HD5650 4820TG to do the Intelburntest and run the CPUmonitor. That way we can do a direct comparisn of the 4820TG and the 3820TG temps vs utilization.

Bronsky

 

What are your specs. Do you have an I7-620M/HD5650? Are you a student in Singapore.

How odd it is that the only people in the world who have these I7-620M Acers is a small group of students in the same school. How is that a distribution strategy Acer?

Bronsky

 

Yes, it's i7 620M/hd5650. Though I'm not a Singaporean student, I did get the laptop from a Sg student last Sat.

 

Well, for me it looks like I can't wait past early June becuase I will have to begin working on a GIS presentation and I will need more power than this little 1410T offers me.

I can't wait much beyond Computex in early June. So, if the 3820TG is not readily available to the US Market in either an I5-540M or I7-620M configuration by then, I have to go with a CTO I7-620M Sony Vaio Z. I would really prefer the ATI GPU, but I can live with the Nvidia GT330M.

I am just at a loss to understand what Acer is doing.

Bronsky

 

Bronsky, Acer really should set you up for all of the work you've done helping promote and inform about this model.

 

I would be happy if they would just sell me a 3820TG. It would be ironic if I wound up buying a Sony Vaio Z.

Bronsky

 

But this has got me to hesitate really much. They got exactly the same specifications, but 4820TG performs better because of a fault in BIOS in just the 3820TG models? Now the 4820 seems like a much better choise...