This could be good processor upgrade news for 1.5ghz 5920G owners!!

Ok.... I've been talking about upgrading the processor in my 1.5ghz 5920G for a while now... While surfing tonight, i spotted this post about a HP notebook processor swap;

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=87086

The sixth reply down from Greg reads as follows;

To double check if the CPU is a zif socketed one, download and run CPU-z. If the package type (on the first tab for the program) says something like 478-mPGA (or 479-mPGA...however many pins these darn processors have), then you're fine.

*A zif socket means that the processor is not soldered in, and can be easily removed and upgraded to a 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 2.6, etc, core 2 duo.

*Since we have the core 2 duo already, a bios flash should not be needed (if i'm wrong please correct me).

Here is a direct link to cpuz;

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Here is a snapshot of my computer after running cpuz.. I'm not sure how to read it (the -mPGA part is missing), so would someone tell me if we have a zif socket according to the remaining information in my photo. Thanks..

*Socket "P" info;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_P

 

Nice catch.. hmmm

$256 for a T7300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819111318&Tpk=T7300

Wonder if a straight swap would work..

 

Don't think new bios would be needed..It should recognise new processor as it is.

And yes,the cpu is not soldered..I saw the socket when I disassembled mine..

 

>Aand yes,the cpu is not soldered..I saw the socket when I disassembled mine..

There you have it..... Thanks ReaperX. This is Good News!!

 

Dude why you forget to take photos while you remove your backplate & reapplying arctic

 

Photo's of a step by step 5920G processor swap would be greatly appreciated by anyone planning on doing this upgrade.

 

Saw your post and couldn't resist touching the interion again...

So here you go...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=2168189#post2168189

 

You are the man!!!!!!

A few questions if you wouldn't mind..

How, and How long to get the fan/heatsink assembly off, and any special specific tools needed.

Where to apply, and How many chips needs ArticSilver upon assembly.

Now for the stupid question... I see two processors, i guess thats the dual core.. So, does that mean if i purchase a 2.4ghz... Two will be in the box, or do i need to purchase two. Or is only one the processor, and the other a type of chip similar in looks.

 

so badabing when are you planning on upgrading to a 2.4ghz cpu then!

 

hmmm i always thought the dual core was two pieces of silicon on the same die

 

Well first time needs an effort to get the heatsink off because it's stuck till you find the ''trick''.You need just a screwdriver.

Left one is 965 chipset right one is cpu.One die>two cores.

You can put thermal paste at vga's core,cpu and chipset core..

 

One is the Santa Rosa Chip North Bridge, you can't change that it's perm part of notebook mainboard chipset. The other with the screw near it is the C2D CPU. You turn the screw and it releases the socketed chip for removal.

 

Check what else I found...

 

ThanX Dude .I also wanna reapply Arctic(Not Now!! after I buy processor upgrade 2.4ghz mostly,waiting for price drop)

Hey ASUS G1S and Aspire 5920 Vga card is MXM2 right(Same size )?
How possible is it to upgrade G1S vga to 5920?I mean will G1S vga fit to my 5920?

 

Yeah,both are MXM2.
It may use DDR3,but don't throw away your money..Better invest on a 2gb dimm..

 

No My Friend have broken G1S (That Bugger drop it down from 2nd Floor of his house while he was drunk,Nearly 20 Meters )
So I can have his MXM2 Freeeeeeeeeeeeee

Hey Bro can I remove my dust cover on my fan vent hole?????

 

Well it's glued,but can be removed..
Although it has big holes so better leave it on..

 

Which Artic Silver is everyon e useing... The Artic Silver-5, or the Ceramique?

http://www.arcticsilver.com/

http://www.arcticsilver.com/instructions.htm

 

I've used both.They perform about the same.
I have ended up with Ceramique because it's much cheaper and it's not conductive like AS5..

 

The Ceramique.. Ok Thanks.

BTW.. One of your photos looks like there is a piece of paper on top of one of the chips.. Does this get covered with the Artic Silver, or removed in place of it? I'm trying to figure out exactly what/where/how gets covered with the Artic Silver... There website instructions don't mention the paper on top. They seem to mention putting a thin line of Artic Silver on the top of the chip.

 

Paper???No..

Well you just put at thermal paste at the cores..The small black chips you see in the center...You put a small amount and then spread it with a card or sth in order to make a thin layer..

 

you only need to apply a grain of rice's worth of thermal paste and spread it well the thinner the better

there was this guy on youtube who took his cpu fan off to show everyone how much coolant he had on his cpu ...i nearly died laughing it looked like he squashed a dog turd on there and slapped his fan on

oh ive found the link ....i found it funny! check out his white glothes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La3SRnZ_47M&mode=related&search=

 

I have a question about CPU upgrade.

The FSB for the 1.5ghz CPU is 677 and the FSB for the 2.0ghz CPU is 800mhz, will the people who have the 1.5ghz CPU (bestbuy special) utilize the 800mhz FSB? I'm wonder if the motherboards between 5920g are different...

 

Mobo supports 800MHz fsb cpu,but the cpu has to run at this speed.
With the 1.5Ghz it will use 667MHz.

 

What happen if i remove dust cover on my fan vent hole?

Will it lower down my temps?????

 

even though the 2ghz c2d is 800mhz it can only run at 677 ,all santa rosa notebooks run at 667 not just this one

so even if you chucked in a 2.4ghz c2d it would run at 667

 

No..

Cpu runs at 800MHz,RAM is limmited at 667MHz with Santa Rosa.

 

Soooo.... What are the chances of the cooling system being able to handle a 2.6ghz/2.8ghz core 2 duo when they arrive. Do you guys think that would be pushing it.

 

I think it's a bit difficult for 2,6GHz+...

The cpu would hit above 90C...

 

>I think it's a bit difficult for 2,6GHz+...

>The cpu would hit above 90C...


I was afraid of that... I guess it's better to be safe than sorry and stick with the 2.4ghz... That should make a big difference over my 1.5ghz.

 

I would go up to T7500 (2,2GHz) in order to be sure I'm safe...

Also in my opinion the price difference between T7500 and the next model T7700 is very high for just 200MHz increase..

 

Ok.. 2.2 to be safe. That will be a strong increase for us 1.5 folks for sure.

But what about for you 2.0 guys... Would going from 2.0 to 2.2 actually do anything for your 3DMark06 score in terms of points?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819111317&Tpk=T7500

 

Ofcourse it would increase performance a bit,but no point throwing away so money...
The laptop is not a pure gaming machine,no point doing upgrades only for benching..

(For heavy duties and benching I have my desktop-about 13,5k in 2006)

For you,with the 1,5ghz cpu,yeah,it will be a great upgrade..

 

I have the 5920G from best buy and have successfully upgraded to the T7500 2.2GHZ Core 2 Duo processor. I bought an engineering sample so it's not showing that it's a T7500 but it works just the same. I got it to my doorstep for only $264 so I had to do the upgrade. Was it worth it? I'd say Yes. Even my Desktop applications run smoother! I'd never know the difference between this and a Desktop(except my last custom desktop that I had RAID 0 on, that thing was *****in'!) About the only games I play right now are HL2: DeathMatch and am currently waiting for HL2: E2 to come out.

Edit: I needed no Bios or any other kind of update and the computer started right up!

 

>I have the 5920G from best buy and have successfully upgraded to the T7500 2.2GHZ Core 2 Duo processor.

Have you've been monitoring the tempurature.. Is there a noticable amount of more heat being generated over the previous 1.5GHZ?

If you would, please run a few benchmark progams like 3DMark06, 3DMark2001se.

I am still thinking about going for the 2.4GHZ (if there isn't that much extra heat).

 

I haven't been monitoring the actual heat by a program before or after. I can tell you that the idle temp seems about the same and the fan comes on at about the same intervals, which isn't vary often. However, gaming it seems a little hotter, not by much, unless I'm sitting on my bed and don't have good ventilation then it gets hotter then a MoFo. If you want I will use a free program of your choice(cpuz?) and monitor the temps as I run 3dMark programs and you can compare it to your computer. To accurately compare the two with temperature we will need to have the same conditions to come notebooks. How does 74 degrees F on a flat table sound for a run? Also know that I used Arctic Silver 5 on the CPU only when I installed the new CPU.

On a side note, why do you want me to use 3Dmark 2001se? It's so old! I have 03,05,and 06 installed on my computer and can get you marks for those right now if you wanted.

 

This utility monitors "BOTH" cores of a dual core chip seperatly, giving seperate readings for each core. It is very popular among dual core/dual core 2 users. Beta v95.4 is the latest.

http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

 

and you can view the log after tells all of the temps, its in the same folder.

 

Just got finished running 3DMark06 with my 1.5Ghz 5920. My core temperature(s) were 54C for core #0, and 55C for core #1 during the test. The Tjunction value remained at a constant 85C, and did not change.

At idle, Core #0 was 41C, and core #1 was 43C. The processor's power is set to "High Performane" when plugged into an outlet.

 

ambiedient temperature also plays a role here.

Btw, at first I was considering an upgrade, but 1.5 processor is really enough for anything. I watched a few HD-DVDs, played some demo games (Dirt, World in Conflict) and hdno major hiccups. I am having with default installation of Vista though. It keeps giving me BSOD when I put in sleep mode. Any ideas without doing another restore?

Anyway, I've passed 14 day return period with BestBuy and it's a keeper.

 

Dual core has one piece with 2 cores on it... in other words if you buy a Dual core you get 1 processor that has both cores already on it you don't need to buy 2.

 

I believe that this image will help some of you out there! Please note that my 8600m gt is overclocked to 600/480.

 

Call me a newb, but i don't really know what Tjunction is, all i know if that it has something to do with the intel processor coding. Mine is a engineering sample so it might be different from the final processors that came out. One thing to note is that I didn't check the high temp for this processor while in 3Dmark, But I can tell it it was above 60c for sure, probably close to 70c. It's not very hot where I did that test, maybe mid 70's F.

 

Already told you that C2D 2.0 and 2,4 have the same TDP because of the same top voltage. So you can swap 1,5 with 2,4 and that will pose no threat to the cooling.

 

Thanks....

BTW.. How about a 2.6GHZ Extreme? Would that work properly without a bios update?

 

No ...5920G can only handle normal C2Ds (35W TDP).Aspire 5920G cooling system can't handle 44W TDP Extreme C2D . So You can't use Extreme

 

oh... Thanks for the information (44W) bigspin.

 

I agree with bigspin, under normal conditions the 2.4 would be just fine as far as cooling goes. My laptop does get quite hot when i have it on the bed now though.

 

There's no way to get more speed out of the ram? They should make internal aftermarket cooler for laptop.. Heck maybe even a water system? I'd buy it. Going to wait for the 2.4 to drop in price and buy that beast. Btw mechanic boy, what utility do you use the oc the video card?

 

Looks like the price came down, around $343.11 for a T7700 2.4ghz!!

http://www.techonweb.com/products/productdetail.aspx?id=D79376&src=NT

http://www.pcnation.com/web/details.asp?item=M76762