Upgraded Acer 3680 Celeron CPU to a T5300!

Fully agree with you there Andy, but my house isn't at SATP. Right now its 12C indoors and 5C outdoors, I like the cold more than most people do. And yes, during the summer I'm sure it will idle at a more respectable 35C.

Desktop CPUs usually run at higher temps and much higher wattage so they will always produce more heat. I too have struggled to get my desktops below 35C - 40C but saying that, I was running the T1350 in the Acer (which has a terrible cooling system) at around 35C undervolted.

In regards to faulty CPUs, I'm assuming there is no way of actually telling if its not calibrated properly unless you use a digital thermometer or something of the sort. I will be getting a T9400 or a T9600 to replace the current P8400 so i'll see then what the temps are like.

I attached a screen shot for of my temps, I'm doing some overclocking on the GPU so its temps are a little high but got a nice 300+ boost in my 3DMark06 scores with a 10% overclock, gonna play with it more to see if I can lower the temps.

 

took awhile but i read through the fist hundred + posts and i have a pretty clear idea of what i should do but i thought i would post here to make sure im on the right track. I want to upgrade My Acer's 3680 - 2682 processor and on the back the sticker is MB.AZL06.... and in Pc Wizard it says i943/940 and i currently have the Celeron M processor (1.86GHz,533MHz 1MB, L2 cache) and i believe i read on previous posts that atleast a C2D t5200, 5300, 5600 would work but i also read that C2D t7200 and alike would work.

So am i correct in my thoughts above. Any help would be terrific.

 

Thought i would add some PC wizard info.
General Information :
NorthBridge : Intel i943/940GML
SouthBridge : 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Controller

NorthBridge Information :
Architecture : Direct Media Interface (DMI)
Manufacturer : Intel (Acer Inc)
Codename : Lakeport
Revision : A3
Bus Speed : 133.3 MHz
FSB Frequency : 533.4 MHz (QDR)
FSB max. Support : 667 MHz
RAM max. Support : DDR2 (667 MHz

Celeron M
Internal Specification : Intel(R) Celeron(R) M CPU 440 @ 1.86GHz
Model Number : 440
Codename : Yonah
Revision : D0
Technology : 0.065µ
Supply : Ultra Low Voltage
CPU ID : 6.E.C
CPU IDEx : 6.E.C
Microcode : MU06EC54
Mobile : Yes
Socket/Slot : U2E1
Upgrade interface : ZIF Socket
Supported Speed : 1860 MHz (or more)
Supported Voltage : 3.3V

 

Hi and welcome to NBR, yes you are correct. The C2D T5200, T5300 and T5600 should work just fine and I believe you should also be able to stick in a T7200 too, but it has to be a T7200 that came out before the Santa Rosa refresh. I can't remember how to identify those ones but i'll get back to you in regards to it.

PCWizard doesn't display the correct chipset but gives you more of a generic one thats why it says Intel i943/940GML, but yours is a i943 as identified by the memory sticker.

Make sure you clean out your laptop when you have it open and its also a good idea to use new thermal paste.

 

Anyone ever find a good part to add bluetooth to Acer3680 and use the existing switch?

 

Finnaly found the time to post my results with the T5300 from eBay...

The system boots an works great. No problem with temps that I can see, a little higher with the T5300 than it was with the Celeron, but nothing noteworthy... one to three degrees increase on average. No where near max for the CPU.

The only glitch so far has been every once in a while on boot... it won't. Won't even do a bios check. You have to hold down the power switch to power it off, then restart it. Then it will boot fine. BIOS is tha latest off of the Acer site, v.1.3223. Any thoughts on what the problem might be?

 

The latest BIOS version for the 3680 family is 1.3508

 

I looked after I posted that and found 1.3505. Where did you find 1.3508? Can you please post a link to the page Andy?

 

ftp://ftp.work.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_3680/bios/

EDIT: lulz

 

Thanks Andy. Bookmarked the link. Maybe I'll find some newer drivers there as well...

 

Thought i would update the status of my processor.
It worked i put a T5600 in my 3680-2682 for $65 (includes Arctic silver 5 and CPU) Runs great no problems on the install Computer accepted the new CPU just fine thanks again for this thread and the help

 

I bought my bluetooth adapter from Oldegg (.com?). Found it on ebay.
It works perfectly, though I personally don't use it. I did hook up a bluetooth headset successfully.

 

Thank you for the reply. I was trying to hook up a cheap external USB BT dongle to the internal connector and have the blue light toggle working as well. A cheap and elegant solution is what I'm looking for.

Here is a link about how other people do it.
http://paulsiu.wordpress.com/2007/0...arket-internal-bluetooth-module-on-acer-3680/

More link:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=185567&page=3

Got the mod. done, using a home made cable with 6 pin picoblade connector and off the shelf BT dongle. The front BT switch works as it should be. Thanks to the thread, now I have done the T5200 upgrade, merge the partion D: to C:, and BT.

 

hi
i have acer aspire 5310
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M CPU 520 @ 1.60GHz
Bus Speed 533 MHz
Stepping 6
External Clock 133 MHz
L1 Cache Data Cache 32 KB
Execution Trace Cache 32 KB
L2 Cache 1 MB

you know with this processor i can sleep while am working

and my Chipset Intel 955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML


Can I Upgrade????????


Thanks For Your Help

 

Do you have a processor in mind that you would like to upgrade to?I would think that you could upgrade to any socket M core 2 duo.Not 100% on this.Here's the wiki listing the M socket core 2 duo processors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_2_microprocessors#Core_2_Duo_2

 

Of course you can upgrade it, but the question is, what to?

The T5600 is known to be working in the Aspire 5310 and its probably the best bang for buck.

You can't upgrade it to any C2D as the CPU has to match your chipset. You can't stick a T5500 in the 5310 because the T5500's FSB is rated at 667 and I believe the 5310 chipset only supports 533.

Do a search on NBR and there are a couple threads about upgrading the CPU on the Aspire 5310.

Hope this helps.

 

You guys were instrumential in upgrading my Aspire 3680-2682 to a 2Ghz T7200 processor from the stock Celeron M 440. Do you folks know if I can upgrade the RAM on this model to max out at 2 Gig or 4 Gig? I've gotten conflicting numbers from diagnostic software, and websites. Acer's specs are old and innaccurate so I thought I'd ask here. Also, how do I determine if my laptop has bluetooth wireless.

Thanks in advance.

 

I know you can do 2gb.I think 4gb is more than can be utilized.I do know that Vista 64bit can utilize more memory but not sure how much.I have Vista 32bit with 2gb memory.

 

From what I know, the 5310 has a single motherboard manufactured, which is with the 943GML chipset. So, it is compatible with any Socket M CPU upto the T7600. You can check the BIOS update history to confirm BIOS Support, or just take a chance. This thread is not dedicated to the Aspire 5310, so you won't find much info here.

The chipset is the 943GML, which supports 2GB Max. (Which the 3680-2682 should have)
The 945GM chipset supports upto 4GiG and can address 3-3.5GB.

 

Firstly you can try the Bluetooth switch at the front of the laptop next to the Wifi switch and if the little blue light comes on then you have bluetooth.

Or you can remove the panel at the back as if accessing the RAM and there is a 6 pin connector (next to the Wifi module) that is for the bluetooth, if it is empty then you have no bluetooth. I'll try and get a picture up when I get home.

As for the RAM, if you aren't sure if you have the 943 or 945 chipset (and I can't remember a good way to find out without taking the laptop apart) you can always take it to a shop and try out 4GB and if it don't work then you have the 943GML.

Edit: Found a link that has a pic that was posted earlier, see below:

 

Thanks for the details. I don't have the bluetooth. Anyone fone one cheaper than the $35 on E-Bay? Also,which motherboard chipset does support up to 4 Gig of RAM?

Thanks

 

The 945GM supports up to 4Gigs.

If your RAM sticker starts with MB.TDX06.... then it is a 945GML. If not then you can only have 2Gig max.

If you are looking to speed things up then you should try getting a 7200 RPM HDD, massive difference from the stock 4200 with load times, etc.

 

I've got 2 gig installed and my system doesn't use but 50% of it.I have the 945GM chipset.

 

Well Andy, I downloaded the firmware but haven't been able to get it installed yet. The laptop now has Vista x64 on it, and the flash utility won't run no matter what I do. Still trying to get a PE flash drive built where I can see the utility, or the second partition on the drive... Ho hum... Any suggestions?

 

I forgot the name of the BIOS flash tool, but yeah, it is 32-bit compatible only, because it installs a driver when it initializes (which is 32-bit only).

The tool will work in XP/Vista 32, not in x64 :/

You can either install XP 32 on a small partition, or do the flash in DOS using a USB FDD.

 

Lots of great info in this thread guys! Thanks to everyone for contributing.

I recently picked up an Aspire 3680-2682 needing repair from someone at work. Motherboard was fried, but I got a great deal on one on eBay for $62 shipped. It had 512mb of ram and I threw another 512mb stick in it. I also upgraded the hard drive to a 320Gb that I had laying around from another project. I partitioned the drive into 3 sections. One 80gb with XP Pro installed, one 80gb with Vista installed, and a 160gb partition for backup images, mp3 files, etc.

Now I'm wanting to upgrade the CPU. It has the i943 chipset, and I just ordered a Dual Core T2130 on ebay for $24 shipped. I know I could have upgraded it to a much nicer core 2 dual, but I really can't justify the expense at this time. I'm probably gonna wind up selling it anyway, but for $24, it has to be a lot better than this Celeron, and the extended battery life alone is probably worth the upgrade.

Anyway, I haven't seen anyone on this thread say that they specifically upgraded to a T2130, but unless I'm missing something, I can't see why it wouldn't work. I have seen reports of upgrades to a T2080, and as far as I can see, the T2130 is just a hair faster than the T2080, and they are both Socket M, 533FSB.

Anyways, great thread here guys. Thanks again!

 

The T2130 should work just fine with the i943 chipset. It might not run as cool as some of the C2D but at that price its a good upgrade

 

Hi i have been reading this thread for the past 2 weeks, i stumbled across this helping a friend with his laptop.
After getting given an Acer Aspire 3680 i thought i would give it ago as i also had t5300 (SL9WE) out of a working laptop.
Thanks to this thread i replaced the cpu with no hiccups, but after putting it all back together i find one lol.
Power on, and the fan spins up and i can hear activity of the dvd drive, charger light is on, as is Wifi.
No sound from the HDD, and the screen stays blank, no system sound at all.
After this disapointment i put the old cpu back and all back to normal apart from no sound, i have the same drivers as before and its all enabled and shows signs that sounds are being played (in the Vol bar).

I would jump at the chance to get the new cpu to work but failing that getting sound back would be nice.

Please can any one tell me if i have missed something, any help would be much appreciated. Below are some readings from CPUZ and PC wizard any other info needed please let me know

CPUZ

DMI System Information
----------------------
manufacturer Acer, inc.
product Aspire 3680
version Not Applicable
serial LXAZK0Y0406511B6972500
UUID 609DB50E-C002D911-A9720016-36D0D704


DMI Baseboard
-------------
vendor Acer, Inc.
model Prespa1
revision Not Applicable
serial LXAZK0Y0406511B6972500


DMI System Enclosure
--------------------
manufacturer Acer, Inc.
chassis type 1X
chassis serial None


DMI Processor
-------------
manufacturer Intel
model Intel(R) Celeron(R) M CPU
clock speed 1600.0 MHz
FSB speed 133.0 MHz
multiplier 12.0x

Processors Information
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Processor 1 (ID = 0)
Number of cores 1 (max 1)
Number of threads 1 (max 1)
Name Intel Celeron M 420
Codename Yonah
Specification Intel(R) Celeron(R) M CPU 420 @ 1.60GHz
Package Socket 479 mPGA (platform ID = 5h)
CPUID 6.E.8
Extended CPUID 6.E
Core Stepping C0
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 1600.1 MHz (12.0 x 133.3 MHz)
Rated Bus speed 533.4 MHz
Stock frequency 1600 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
L1 Data cache 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 1024 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control no
Features XD

PC Wizard

PC Wizard 2008 Version 1.871
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Owner: USER1
User: USER1
Operating System: Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate Professional 6.00.6000
Report Date: Wednesday 04 March 2009 at 15:09

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


<<< System Summary >>>

> Mainboard : Acer, Inc. Prespa1

> Chipset : Intel i943/940GML

> Processor : Celeron M 420 @ 1600 MHz

> Physical Memory : 2048 MB (2 x 1024 DDR2-SDRAM )

> Video Card : Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Controller 0 (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM)

> Hard Disk : Hitachi (80 GB)

> DVD-Rom Drive : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T10N ATA Device

> Monitor Type : QUANTADISPLAY - 14 inches

> Network Card : Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd) Yukon 88E8038 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller

> Network Card : Atheros Communications Inc AR5005G 802.11abg Wireless NIC

> Operating System : Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate Professional 6.00.6000

> DirectX : Version 10.00

> Windows Performance Index : 2.1

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
***** End of report *****

Sorry for the long post but wanted to get as much info in as pos.
Thank you for any help at all.

 

For those of you looking at Core Duo CPUs (cheaper than C2D and pretty much the same except for no 64-bit support), I have a friend who put my old T2400 into his 3680 and it's working great.

 

Just a couple of guesses here. Have you checked the sticker above the ram on the motherboard to be sure you have the i943 chipset or 945? If you have at least the i943, the cpu should work, so there is only a couple of possibilities. Either you didn't seat the cpu properly in the socket, (or bent a pin), or it must have been blown somehow before you installed it. As far as the sound, you may have unplugged a small connector between the speakers and the motherboard, and didn't plug it back in when you reassembled the unit.

One other thing, does your unit have the proper bios update to run dual cpu?

 

Well not only am i dissapointed i now feel stupid lol.
I read the post's about checking the chipsets via app's and the sticker on the ram slots, but was using the acer to view this forum and put it to the back of my mind with intentions of doing so after, and even after opening up the machine to fit the cpu (and then to remove it lol) i still didnt check.
Suppose i was to eager to rip open my laptop lol.
Thanks for the help with the sound i will check that after i post this, and also for the reminder about using the ram sticker to ID the chipset as i found as you may tell from this rant it was MBTEB0 most worthy of an E-slap.
So i now have a spare t5300 lol
brilliant forum and guide
Thank you for the help

 

Another observation in regards to finding what your chipset is without opening it is that all 3680s with Celeron M 420s in them have turned out to be 940GML.

 

The best CPU you can install is the T1350 (still alot better than a Celeron)

 

im going to do an upgrade on an ASPIRE 7110.
This is a 17inch widescreen model but also uses the Motherboard as a few other models ASPIRE 9***.
wish me luck.

Hi guys im back

 

not in all cases, we found out that it depends on when and where your MOBO was made as to the chipset you have.

this has been research to the point that we tryed to cover all the odd things we came up against.

so you could have one of many chipsets.

 

Hey hoggie, long time no see

Well, if you've got a Celeron M 5xx, the notebook should have the 943GML chipset.

If the Celeron M 4xx, then the chipset can be either 940GML or 943GML. (My notebook had a Celeron M 420 + 940GML )

 

T2130 Upgrade Accomplished!

Only took about 45 minutes, start to finish. Everything went pretty smooth, except I did have a couple of tense moments when I first tried to fire it up and the CPU wouldn't kick. Wound up just needing to re-seat one of the ram sticks.

Thanks again everyone!

 

Hello all,

I've been reading this thread for months. I joined only to keep up on this and as the day approaches when I fire up a new core duo I was hoping for advice. I have an i943GML sticker on rambay is MBAZL06.

I tried installing 2 2gb crucial 200 pin sodimm ddr2 677... But never more than 2gb appears in the BIOS. But in S.G_AS3680_5570_5780.pdf (mine is the 3680-2682 is that manual goes off the number) which I found on this thread, the max is quoting from that manual:

Supports memory size per socket 1024MB
Supports maximum memory size Maximum memory up to 2GB for 32bit OS (with two 1GB SODIMM), 4G for
64bit OS(with two 2GB SODIMM)
Supports DIMM type DDR 2 Synchronous DRAM
Supports DIMM Speed 533/677 MHz

Notice above how it says max per socket is 1GB?

and a page below that I see:

table looks like

SLOT 1 SLOT 2 TOTAL MEMORY
2048MB 1024MB 3072MB
2048MB 2048MB 4096MB

Anybody know why this is not being detected in my BIOS?

Also the fastest chip I can get with the i943 is a .... as far as I've seen, T7300 or under. What is the fastest known working upgrade with my i943 chipset? And I would really like to hook up a bluetooth dongle internally, as my machine has the switch built in but the actual hardware seems to be missing. Has anybody had any luck with adding bluetooth?

Thanks so much!

 

The 943GML chipset supports 2GB max. That memory table above is for AS5580 which has the 945GM/PM chipset.

The best CPU the 943GML supports is the T7600 > T7400 > T7200.
The T7300 is a Socket P CPU and is incompatible with your notebook (won't even fit the socket).

 

Andy,

first I have to say thanks fr this thread. Secondly, thanks for the response. I have seen a T7600 on EBay with a 667mhz FSB. Do all the chips I'm looking at need to be something special? How well would the heat dissappation be? Please let me know any further details or technicalities. I am running newest 1.3.0.5 BIOS, flashed last night.
I have the i943GML.

Thanks!

 

If you have the 943GML, alongwith the latest BIOS, then any Socket M Core 2 Duo will work. On my 3680, the T7600, T7200 and T5200 worked fine.
The CPUs that you are looking at, do not need to be special, but they need to be compatible with your notebook. Only Socket Ms will work.

 

Nice to see you back hoggie. What you going to be upgrading on the 7110?

It was merely an observation and not hard facts to determine which chipset you had. And more to the point and what Andy correctly said in if its got a M5XX its most likely a i943+ but I was running late so I cut my post short.

I too had the M420 + 940GML multipack of dispair.

 

mine both had the 940gml chipest....so no upgrade
but i just had to check the chipset chip...
ive done a couple of upgades now and i find it better to check the chipset with my own eyes...have a few cpu's around the house if i see an upgade would work i go for it.
i have done the hard drive,bluetooth,mem(max is 2gb).
and replaced the lcd on my 7110.
i like the optical out on this laptop for the 7-1 sound.
It's great to be back

 

does anyone know what are the upgradable CPUs for an Acer Aspire 5580?
I have now T5550 cpu, not sure what can i upgrade it to?

 

Only Socket M CPUs

 

Hello, I have the Acer 3680 with the i943 board, I have close-to-none experience working inside laptops and I tried to put a T5600 in this baby, it worked fine and it feels faster.

But recently I've been experiencing some issues, it restarts itself after some while, it seems to be random, it just goes to a black screen and then reboots, I've been trying to see if the windows logs show anything wrong but they don't. When I opened the laptop and reorganized I couldn't find where to place some screws as I took most of them out, so I have like 7 or 8 phillips style screws outside the laptop case, I also have one really weird screw silver and really wide and short that I coulnd't remember where to put it back.

Has anyone else had these kind of problems? other stuff that I found out of the ordinary is that PC Wizard doesn't show the temperatures for the motherboard or cpu, and the clock speed most of the time is at 1000 mhz and 1.063V. Any help will be greatly appreciated...

-Miguel

 

Can't tell you where most of those screws go but the small flat sliver one should go under the HDD.

Your restarts could be due to the fact that you left out those screws and flexing could make electrical contacts lose contact or maybe even short. I would suggest finding the service manual (somewhere here on this thread) and get those extra screws back in place. You could try to flex the laptop when it is on to see if it restarts (this isn't the safest suggestion so do at your own discretion).

Not sure why PC Wizard doesn't show the temps but try using another program just to make sure it isn't just PC Wizard. The clock speed is at 1000Mhz because of Speedstepping, it downclocks the CPU when not being used to save power. The Celeron doesn't have Speedstepping and that is another reason that the C2D use less power.

 

Oh well, you should have clicked pics while disassembling the first time. I think that weird, wide screw goes somewhere into the HDD compartment.

There is a reassembly vid on youtube for the 3680 (search for that), and also check if you have the latest BIOS.

 

If i remember well, the weird silver screw is related to the hdd.

Ops ! i didnt see Andy's post, i 100% quote it

 

Thank you all for your responses! I put the flat screw under the HDD housing and the restarts have stopped happening, It's weird since it doesn't seem to do much, but they have.. I haven't been able to open up the laptop to put the remaining screws but I will do so soon... By the way the CPU and mainboard temperatures, I don't know what happened but I was wrong, I was thinking the temperatures were shown in the CPU info but they're shown in the performance info... They show correctly, most of the time between 60, 70° Celsius... Thanks again!

-Miguel

..Edit: I put the rest of the screws back, it seems to be working fine =D, there's a lot of difference between celeron and a core 2 duo!