650m vs Integrated chip

I was reading on reddit and someone said that the Intel HD 4000 chip set is almost as powerful at the GT 650m, and that the Intel HD 5000 chip set will either be equal or more powerful than the 650m.

Can anyone confirm or deny this claim?
I find it hard to believe that an integrated chip will be able to play BF3 on the same settings as I can.

 

650m on PassMark / 1279 pts.
Intel HD 4000 / 466 pts.

So, no way...
The 4000 is a great card (for it to be integrated) but it can't match yours.

 

It's true, for the PC at least. I believe the most expensive desktop Haswell on the market has an IGP equivalent to the GT650M.

 

Intel HD 5000 is about as good as GT 525m.

Intel 5200 (Iris Pro) is on par with GT650m, maybe 5-10% slower.

 

Intel Iris Pro 5100/5200 40 16 1300MHz 832 GFLOPS
Intel HD Graphics 5000 40 16 1100MHz 704 GFLOPS
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 384 2 900MHz 691.2 GFLOPS
Intel HD Graphics 4600 20 16 1350MHz 432 GFLOPS
Intel HD Graphics 4000 16 16 1150MHz 294.4 GFLOPS
Intel HD Graphics 3000 12 12 1350MHz 194.4 GFLOPS


Intel Iris Pro 5100/5200 10.4 GPixels/s 20.8 GTexels/s 650 MPolys/s 832 GFLOPS
Intel HD Graphics 5000 8.8 GPixels/s 17.6 GTexels/s 550 MPolys/s 704 GFLOPS
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 14.4 GPixels/s 28.8 GTexels/s 900 MPolys/s 691.2 GFLOPS
Intel HD Graphics 4600 5.4 GPixels/s 10.8 GTexels/s 675 MPolys/s 432 GFLOPS

 

That gives the impression that 5000 is better than 650m, maybe it's true for GPGPU tasks (considering how crippled Kepler is for GPGPU tasks), but from the benchmarks and reviews I've seen it goes like this (in terms of gaming);

Iris Pro 5200 = (roughly, in some cases it's 10%) 650m > Iris 5100 > 5000 > 4600

 

Don't forget that clocks on iGPU's are changed from pc to pc. The AW 14 only has 1150 Mhz on the Intel HD 4600.

 

First of all how can you people even try to compare dedicated vs integrated?? Mobile or desktop. No dedicated card, especially if the chip sits near the processor chip will ever match a dedicated card, else why would nvidia be so stupid as to make a full grafic card chip? some people and reviews and poor benchmarks that ppl belive with no quiestions.. I'm sorry I'm so mad by my friend told me the same thing and bought a mac based on that theory and I started searching the web to see who can even post slouch things..and yea, ofc there are exceptions please don't throw in my face a graphic card from 1990 and say that he 5000 is better. I am a graphic designer and I've got my hands on quite some parts. Don't always trust a benchmark as they can be false, modified reading, some processing units overclock especially when they feel a benchmark going on, this is true for pc benchmarks and it starting for phones too. Result is unreal reading. If you really want to test this get them yourself and generate an animation and look at the frames processed in x seconds or minutes. It's as it straight forward and simple as it gets. But there is no way in heaven or hell that a dedicated card, latest, the best could process more than(what I've read, last generation nvidia, some reviews said its even competing with the new ones). Long answer short: want to play video games? Get a card. Want to chat on th and have a pretty windows aero, stay with integrated.