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    Alienware M14x with i7-4700MQ and 765M with FHD

    Discussion in 'Alienware 14 and M14x' started by T2050, Jul 29, 2013.

  1. T2050

    T2050 Notebook Deity

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    I am about to pull the trigger on a Alienware M14x with i7-4700MQ and 765M with FHD

    Although I am really concerned that I will not be able to take this thing out of the box and just use it, without apply tweaks to the video card each time I use it to stop it throttling.

    Main concerns are the 67c thermal throttling on the GPU and not being able to just update the drivers to whatever is latest on Nvidia's website. What is the point of a super powerful GPU if it runs at half the speed when throttling. If it runs half the speed then it will be about the same as a 750M that runs at full speed.

    Is the cooling really that bad? Does the fan ramp up and down? Can the cooling system cope with the i7-4700MQ and 765M?

    Would it be worth selling (taking a loss selling second hand) my brand new HP Envy 15j-000 with i7-4702MQ and 750M with HD, then buying a Alienware M14x with i7-4700MQ and 765M with FHD?

    The i7-4702MQ and 750M runs surprising cool at idle and temps are ok at load, and the 750M overclocks like crazy sustains boost at 1.3GHz, there is no thermal throttling issues and games almost everything on ultra at 1366x768.
    I am a bit worried about going to the Alienware, if it is go to be an on-going struggle with the GPU and out of control cooling system?
     
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    In my experience the cooling has been fantastic. As soon as I exit a graphics intensive game, my temps drop to 55 or less almost before I can check them. The throttling is annoying, but kind of overblown--the temperature limit only exists in the switchable graphics mode--if you play in discreet mode, you will not get throttled. Ever.

    With that said, I don't know what your envy is worth or how much of a loss you would take, but the 14 is an amazing machine and I would recommend it to anyone. But listen to what other people have to say as well--I've had a good experience, but some have definitely not. Just don't let the "throttling" scare you off.
     
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    ok sounds promising. At the moment my i7-4702MQ is idling at 39c and the fan is spinning slowly away, while I am typing this. Where about does the Alienware 14 idle at and how much noise does the fan make?
    Both laptops are the same weight also I am using this one directly on my lap, can you use the Alienware 14 direct on your laptop, for just random un-intensive things like this or does the vents have to be always ventilated.

    Other people are saying you have to keep restarting the machine to switch back to the internal graphics and vice versa, of you want to avoid the throttling issue. Seem pretty inconvenient, is there no way to seamlessly switch between the two and not be stuck at 67c limit. Sound like a pretty stupid idea to implement on such an expensive machine, there is no gain to be had doing this, makes me question why dell has done this. I did email them but I got a generic answer

    Quote from dell technical:
    "According to my product specialist, There's no issue in the video card, it's know to support high performance and settings. The cooling issue is mainly depending on the architecture of the Alienware 14. I cannot support nor dictate if our new Alienware 14 has a better cooling solution, compared to the M14x, you will need to check with the brand manager on the benchmarking and the optimum temperature to run the machine. A cooling pad will be a good solution, but considering the the Alienware 14 comes with the Haswell chip, as mentioned by Intel, the watt for the processor will be lower than before, resulting lower temperature overall as well."

    There is a several reasons why I want to ditch the Envy 15-j000, the keyboard is terrible with horrid flex, the trackpad is like glue on my finger, the build in some areas is pretty poor compared to last years dv6. Although the hardware is actually pretty decent and performs a lot better than I was expecting.
    I know my Alienware M17x serves me well and is still a desktop replacement where I have no physical space for it, although is way to heavy to game on when I take it into my lounge and sit on the couch. I am hoping the Alienware M14x can do this for me, my AMD dv6 is to slow, the Mac get to hot for gaming for my likes (and have to bootcamp it for a selection). The Envy 15-j000 can game for sure, but feel like I am missing something compared to the other nice screen I have.