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    GT 555m(M14X) vs GTX 460m (Sager NP8130)??

    Discussion in 'Alienware 14 and M14x' started by libertine, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. libertine

    libertine Notebook Guru

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    I would like to have an AW but it seems that Sager have a better gpu, is there too much difference between GT 550M and GTX 460M, for example in games like Black OPS, Medal of Honor, Crysis 2... mostly FPS. i dont care about the extra RAM for games 6 Gb its enough and the screen... i prefere the lights!!! :D
    So differences like benchmarks... in games or reference (ur experience)
    Thank u.
     
  2. revdiesel

    revdiesel Notebook Evangelist

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    The 555m with a small overclock has the same benchmarks as the GTX 460m
     
  3. libertine

    libertine Notebook Guru

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    Nice! but i dont know how to overclock xD...well i supossed i can learn that! :D
     
  4. Miguelvrmtz

    Miguelvrmtz Newbie

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    No doubt. GTX460M is powerful.
     
  5. nanias

    nanias Notebook Consultant

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    A little good overclock maybe, then the vc would get hotter and make the cpu decrase the TB maybe afecting performance or not (wait tilll someone has it, thas what I am doing), plus the 555 will push a 720p res and the 460a full hd, so no compare IMO... but still the GT555 is more than enouth for a 720p IMO...
     
  6. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    If you're already okay with the size bump to 15.6" go for the Sager NP8150 instead of the NP8130 or M14x.
     
  7. stevenxowens792

    stevenxowens792 Notebook Virtuoso

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    If your trying to talk yourself out of the Alienware it means you dont really want it... Good Luck and Let us know how the Sager works out.
     
  8. WaffleBoy

    WaffleBoy Notebook Deity

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    GTX 460 is stronger
     
  9. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    I still haven't seen sufficient evidence, to say that an OC'd 555M equals the GTX 460M. Just looking at the technical specs, it seems improbable.
     
  10. tuckrr

    tuckrr Notebook Consultant

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    if you dont know how to OC dont go with sager.

    if your laptop breaks, do you plan on fixing it yourself or relying on AW 1 day repair?
    do you like good cooling?
    do you ever want to carry your laptop to class?
    do you like decent resale value?
    will you actually use the keyboard
    these (plus lights) are things to consider, and as a former sager owner i can tell you first hand:
    they push out the MOST cutting edge laptops (which gives most of the users on here a woodie), but they are NOT ready for the average consumer. They rush to get the latest and greatest "by the numbers" laptops, at the cheapest price...but you will certainly feel the pinch down the road
    crappy build quality
    weak (bendy) build materials
    often lights will fail
    not as good keyboard IMO
    and of course often times they arent as "optimized" with the hardware as bigger companies (who thoroughly test their PCs) are...i mean these are both "custom PC" brands, but with AW at least you know a bunch of other people are buying the same computer, so all of its flaws are known and (hopefully) fixed
    you know...the little things

    and if you ever really get in a pinch and lets say your HDD is failing, you have to wait 2 weeks for the ship to taiwan, and deal with all 7 of their customer reps lol (honestly if you see chris mundy tell him I say "Hi"...b/c he's about half of their work force, and the only one who speaks English fluently)

    TL;DR

    AW>sager/clevo

    so dont just go by the benchmarks...if you only cared about that you'd probably want a desktop, or a MUCH much bigger laptop
     
  11. libertine

    libertine Notebook Guru

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    Thank u for the good answer!! I already order the m14x!!!
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    GTX460M:

    192 shaders, 675/1300/625, 192bit GDDR5

    GTX555M:

    144 shaders, 590/1180/900. 192bit DDR3

    At stock the GTX460M has a 39% bandwidth and a 52.5% processing advantage.

    Thats how much the 555M would need to be clocked roughly to match the performance.

    Now if you take the fact the 460M tends to clock well too into account and its not pretty for the 555M.
     
  13. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Exactly, Meaker. it's technically impossible, for the 555M to cover that ground.

    Your one bad experience with the M980NU doesn't put a stain on the entire company.

    Ask those who have had nightmare experiences with Dell and Alienware. You're way to zealous in your posting habits.
     
  14. sk3tch

    sk3tch Notebook Deity

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    Guys - the 460M is kind of a dog these days in terms of mobile GPUs (for those of you who are frame hungry) - so why bother comparing the 555M to it? If you want a 460M, get one - or better yet skip right to the 6970M which blows it away...it's not that much more.

    555M is all about balance...Optimus...battery life...decent gaming on the go.
     
  15. itcomic

    itcomic Notebook Consultant

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    the high overclock-ability of 460m is very amazing. If you want good performance, I highly recommend the 460m. 555m is good target for those who satisfied with MEDIUM to HIGH (quality depends on your resolution and game coding). 555m achievable overclock speed performance, as far as I know, is not on par with 460m stock performance ! ! ! ! !

    Even with overclock, they are not on the same league.
     
  16. tuckrr

    tuckrr Notebook Consultant

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    Have You bought a sager?
     
  17. Star Forge

    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    Read his signature. That is a Clevo/Sager model he owns.
     
  18. libertine

    libertine Notebook Guru

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    thats right gaming on the go...so M14X > Sager NP8130
    My desktop's gpu is a 6970... and the M14X's gpu is more than enough to start gaming anywhere...
     
  19. MaheshT

    MaheshT Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is there any other notebook that offers the gtx 460m in a small form factor as i cannot buy a sager(its not available in india).
     
  20. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    You can import a Sager from US, Euro or Asian Resellers, however if it ever broke, you'd need to either get the parts mailed to you or ship them the unit itself.

    I'm pretty sure Sager is the smallest 460m laptop. I compared the 8130 to a G53 and the 8130 is at least 25% smaller. After owning a G53, G73 and GX740, the 8130 actually felt like a 14" laptop.

    Everything else is pretty similar in terms of size (AW, MSI and Asus).
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Of course for a small increase in size and weight (an inch wider and just a little heavier) you can get a 1080p screen and an HD6970M or GTX485M.

    At the same time its also upgradable.
     
  22. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    I've owned 3 now, but I don't shill for the company.
     
  23. MaheshT

    MaheshT Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is there any other brand other than sager/clevo that offers comparable performance with not increasing much size, as i cannot buy sager in india.
     
  24. manwdaplan

    manwdaplan Notebook Enthusiast

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    Asus has a 15.6 inch laptop, G53Sw-XR1 looks pretty powerful, check it out, weights a pretty good amount though (8lbs)
     
  25. chris3145

    chris3145 Notebook Consultant

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    Origin is another company that makes high end laptops. I've never used one, so I can't give you any more info than the name.

    I can't give you much info on quality. You'll have to look at specs and prices to see what fits your needs, and then maybe ask other people here once you've narrowed it down.

    Companies that specialize in gaming laptops:
    Alienware
    Sager
    Origin

    The G Series from Asus is a gaming line. I believe HP has some gaming-worthy laptops as well.

    Here are two top ten lists for gaming laptops that might give you a place to start:
    PCMag
    Top Ten Reviews
     
  26. Jetbo

    Jetbo Notebook Consultant

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    Origin is three old alienware guys who started a company. Its a clevo box no backlit keyvoard and they like og alienware completely overpriced but so powerful
     
  27. seeratlas

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    MSI GX680R has the 460m in it I believe. I know someone that has one, and it would probably take a chainsaw to get the chit eatin grin off his face. Sound is amazing too.

    seer
     
  28. flybass

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    those MSI laptops are ugly as sin
     
  29. tuckrr

    tuckrr Notebook Consultant

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    "it looks like some one beat them with the ugly stick"
    :D
     
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    gt 555m is weaker than 6770m even

    i found some 3dmark 11 scores

    at stock

    gt 555m 192 bit gddr3 144 sps P135x
    6770m P155x
    gtx 460m P 185x