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    Interested in purchasing, but hesitant about the screen..

    Discussion in 'Alienware 14 and M14x' started by SaosinEngaged, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. SaosinEngaged

    SaosinEngaged Notebook Evangelist

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    Okay, I'll be honest. I'm almost ridiculously picky about the screens on the laptops I buy. I recently picked up the Envy 14 with the Radiance screen, and it's quite simply one of the most beautiful displays I've ever seen. A very close second to the RGB LED on the m17x R2 I had.

    I'm interested in the m14x as a "more horsepower" replacement to my Envy, but only if the screen is, at the least, comparable to the Radiance. I've already sacrificed the RGB LED in favor of the WLED on the R3, and I really don't want to step down on my primary 14 inch laptop (I'm on my Envy about 4-6 hours daily).

    Clearly nobody has physically seen the display yet, but I'm wondering if anyone has uncovered the specifications of the screen from any of the information that has been leaked or put into reviews. I'm talking the Adobe spectrum, color gamut, brightness, contrast, black levels, etc.

    It really is that important to me. I know it may seem strange to some of you, but above all else, the screen is what sells me on a laptop. Before the Radiance on the HP Envy 14, I would have probably never bought an HP laptop (just because of personal preference).

    Edit: Yes, I'm referring to the 1600x900 WLED.
     
  2. SaosinEngaged

    SaosinEngaged Notebook Evangelist

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    I'd also like to add Dell/Alienware is a bit inconsistent with the displays they use. On one hand, they graced the m17x R2 with one of the most beautiful displays on a consumer laptop, then failed to give an equivalent display on the latest generation (not that the 1080p WLED is bad, I know it isn't). Then, they put arguably one of the worst displays I've ever glanced at on the m11x. Then again, they put another fantastic screen on the 15 inch XPS.

    So I can't say for consistencies sake, that Dell/Alienware always uses good displays, so it should be good/above average.

    I find it funny that the majority of laptop reviews from tech sites spend a good 1-2 lines mentioning the display, and it usually only references brightness, viewing angles, and whether it's "good" or not.

    I guess it just reinforces the fact that the average person doesn't care as much as I do, and I'm fanatically picky about it (which I readily admit).
     
  3. TostitoBandito

    TostitoBandito Notebook Evangelist

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    I too am very curious about the display. I work with images and will need a display that has consistent color/brightness/contrast when calibrated, and covers as much of the gamut as possible. I know it's not going to be as nice as the IPS monitors I use, but I don't expect it to be. It just needs to be consistent, even, and stand up well to calibration.
     
  4. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    The only review of it that I've seen so far says this:

    It's definitely not going to be an RGB-good display but it should be far better than an 'average' (crappy) notebook display. However, I'd hold out to see what a professional analysis reveals.
     
  5. yun

    yun Notebook Deity

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    :eek:
    Troll,troll.
    If u ever own dell's laptops, u know they are using cheap and crappy junk display when they don't mention anything special in their speces.

    Studio 15- average or below
    XPS 14- crappy
    XPS 15- crappy(regular one)

    You expect a display much better than average for AW 14? Dream, dream...Maybe come true someday.

    Dell knows how business exactly work, if the display is far better than averge, they will mention them.
     
  6. revdiesel

    revdiesel Notebook Evangelist

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    Good of you to announce your presence.

    To answer the question of the thread. No this screen won't be as good as the radiance screen (even HP doesn't have that screen anymore). However the reviews so far state that the screen is in fact very good. If you look at Engadget.com they have some pictures of the M14x running call of duty and the viewing angles, contrast etc look good.
     
  7. yun

    yun Notebook Deity

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    M11x review is up on notebook check.net
    NOT bad, 64%. As average of Dell laptops

    For someone, u ever own some laptops which has good display?
    U know laptopmag discuss almost every laptops have "good" display??
    For OP, just buy it and return it if you don't like it.
     
  8. yun

    yun Notebook Deity

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    Btw, if I don't own the laptops, I won't discuss or leaving my opinions by just randomly reading some reviews and create imaginations to actually "help" people to make a decision,
     
  9. froogle

    froogle Notebook Evangelist

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    I think it's a valid question. On the one hand the press conference talked about it being an LED LCD, so it should be pretty vibrant (not quite IPS but hey, cost is a factor here). On the other hand, the first impression stuff I've seen so far indicates a quite dim display. Is it flawed in some way, or is this merely because the reviewers didn't find out how to change the power usage mode, brightness and stealth? It's going to take getting the machines into the hands of real users to find out I think.

    The other concern I have is the same concern I had about the M15X (even after I bought it). There's an awful lot of plastic around the main display. They could have increased the resolution quite a lot by reducing the bevels.
     
  10. EviLCorsaiR

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    Wow. You're calling me a troll for quoting a legitimate review? Pathetic.

    I'm not exactly inclined to take technical advice from someone who can't spell and use grammar.

    As for the screens...have you seen the M17x R2's RGBLED display? Easily one of the very best displays on the entire notebook market. And my friend's M15x's display is really good as well.

    Why don't you stop trolling people quoting legitimate information and go off and find your own facts and figures to back up the fact that the M14x has a poor screen?

    I agree, we'll probably have to wait for people to get it in their own hands. Or wait for more reviews to pop up.

    As for the M15x, yes, they could have easily fit a bigger screen in the M15x, but then they wouldn't be able to call it a 15" notebook. ;) As for the M14x however, from the pictures I've seen, I don't think they could fit a bigger screen in there (the bezel seems very small from what I've seen, on the sides at least)
     
  11. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    if the screen is up to par with my m11x, then all is well with me. im not into very bright output anyway.

    friends and family have to up the brightness when they use my m11x (which i will say is very limited), and they comment on how they think i cant see anything...
     
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    Drkknightfan Notebook Guru

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    Hey SaosinEngaged what is your opinion on the R3 that you own? I have the RGB R2 screen and I love it as well, I did just ordered the M14x and I will comment on the screen when I receive it mid May. The reason I ask is I'm considering trading up to the M18x depending on the weight of the machine, some post seem to contradict the info one says 12lbs and some say 16lbs, if it's 16 that would be a deal breaker for me. The other issue I have is how much I'll miss my RGB screen, that's why I ask your opinion on your R3 screen.
     
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    The Rep I spoke with when purchasing my m14x yesterday said that 16 pounds was actually a little bit generous. He seemed to know about the products they were selling and was not keen on the m18x's heft.
     
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    Yeah, the bezel is only about half an inch on each side. That's pretty much as small as it gets.
     
  15. SaosinEngaged

    SaosinEngaged Notebook Evangelist

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    My R3 arrives tomorrow :yes:.

    I'll have to leave my opinion tomorrow, although I've seen comparison photos as well as the specifications of the 60hz WLED vs the RGB.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/uploads/pics/ICC_M17R3_vs_DEllStudioXPS16_01.JPG

    This compares it to the RGB of the Studio XPS 16 which had similar, if not the same, specs as the RGB on the R2. Just from that, it's not even close.

    Yet the WLED has a contrast ratio over 500:1 which is quite good for a WLED and overall the quality on paper sounds much better than your average screen. Based off that and the pics I've seen, it's an above average screen that simply lacks the color depth of the RGB screen on the R2.

    I'll post my "hands on" opinion of the screen tomorrow when I get it.
     
  16. SaosinEngaged

    SaosinEngaged Notebook Evangelist

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    Wow, well I'm typing from my R3 at this very moment.

    Quite honestly, there's no comparison. The RGB on the R2 completely slaughters this panel. It really doesn't seem ANY better than any other of the WLED panels I've seen; colors are muted and dull and the screen isn't bright enough.

    Very, very disappointing.

    And it sucks too, because aside from the screen this laptop is perfect. Call me nuts, but I prefer the lighter soft touch build quality of the R3 to the tank like R2.

    Amazing laptop, meh screen.

    Now I'm 99% certain I'm not getting an m14x.