120Hz Screen now available with Nvidia 580m

Check out the Dell UK site, you can now order both! Hopefully the US site will be updated with this too some time soon.

The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

 

Yes the Australian site is still showing the gtx460 with 3d screen selection but you can select the gtx 580m when you get to the video selection and check out with gtx580m

 

Nice!!!! Better start saving!

 

ordered .

 

^^Damn you! So jealous

 

hehe. well ive been waiting for ages for it.

in fact i ordered the 580 with 60hz screen yesterday. and today checked and was amazed....! so quickly phoned to cancel and reorder

 

Haha so you were still a very small bit premature

 

indeed just in time to cancel thought thankfully!

 

Does this mean I can upgrade now?!?!?!

 

If you get the card from somewhere yessssss. BUT nobody knows if cards from Sager/Clevo etc wil work in the R3 so currently bound to Dell and their prices, think 850 dollar like prices for that 1 card.

 

i got my 580 3d solution for 30 pounds cheaper than the 460 3d m17 i bought an d returned a month ago, including a killer wireless card

 

Then you really sweet talked the reps. Configs??

 

I have asked my rep for a price since I just received my system today.

I don't want to do a refund since I have been in enough of those already and I don't want to do anymore... I just want a laptop already...

I predict it will be in the US by next week +/- a few days.

 

standard 3d setup except the 580 and killer card (2630,4gb,320 etc)

already have an agility 3, going to get a 750 WD black and 8gb 1866 pnp kit to go along with it.

shall stick the 320 and 4gb stock ram on fleabay for some cash back!

 

I'm starting to wish that I waited for the 580M, but I have little complaints with the 460M at this given time.

 

I have no complaints about my current setup, but might sell mine and spend a few hundred for this set up just for future proofing...

 

Just priced it out, and wow.... the card is a $600 increase.... not justifiable for me lol....

 

Still not available in the US. I just tried to configure an m17x with a 580M and the 120Hz screen and got the same compatibility warning.

 

Any visibilty difference from the 120hz screen and the 60z screen? I had a m17x r3 with the 3d bundle before and the screen was amazing, very bright good color. I heard that the 60z screen isn't as bright. Confirm/Deny?

 

60hz isnt as bright.

400 vs 300 or something.

has to be brighter as you wear sunglasses while looking at it

 

That's correct. The rest of the specs, including gamut coverage and contrast, are the same according to Dell. Only difference is brightness and refresh rate.

 

They are not the same.

Gamut is about 23% higher.

What is the Dell P/N for the 580M?

 

If you call in and talk toa rep they can manually config the 3d bundle with the 580. I'm pissed beause they want me to cancel my order to add the 3d screen so screw that.

 

yep i had to cancel and reorder this morning. seems then havent removed the lock on the funds on my credit card yet as the new system hasnt been confirmed

i hope they hurry up because the original order is listed as cancelled!

 

M17x-R3
Integrated Intel HD3000
RDRGR AMD HD6990m Blackcomb XTX
V9XKH AMD HD6970m Blackcomb XT
V5TGF AMD HD6870m Granville Pro
3MF8R Nvidia GTX580m N12E-GTX2
YT99J Nvidia GTX470m N12E-GS
VDV04 Nvidia GTX460m N11E-GS

Alienware Laptop video cards - Alienware Forum - Alienware Club - Dell Community

I was hoping I wouldn't have to do a return on mine and just let me pay the POS cost in trade for the 460, however its not looking good so far.

I sent a plead email cause I have been though too many exchanges and new orders that enough is enough.

 

(I know I posted this already, but I feel the need to cross post in this case)

OK, i was just quoted a price for the card - and well - its not good.

Not including tax and shipping, it appears to be around $1200 - just the card itself

This isn't good....

 

double post

 

Where are the documents or benchmarks that say that? If you look at the Dell screen selection help (click on help when choosing your screen) it shows a breakdown of all the AW displays and lists both the 60 Hz and 120 Hz as having the same 72% or 73% gamut coverage.

I would be interested to see as I'm still mulling over if the 120 Hz screen is worth the money for me (I don't care about 3D).

 

If I buy a GTX 580m off ebay will it work in my m17x R3 3D ? I currently have the GTX460m in it, will the current heat sink work ok? will i just need themal pads and new themal paste for it to work? Has dell done anything to the GTX 580m bios or anything to stop a stock GTX580 working on 3D ?

 

I wish I had the link still there was a list of all alienware laptops and the panels used and the gamut ratings. The 3D screen is 72% the non is 50 or 55%...It's super dull compared to the 3D one

 

I am seriously considering selling my M17X R3 now in order to max it out with the 2820qm, 580m, 3d, and 1103. Damn this sucks, I might also just wait a year and get a 680m lol, who knows!

 

Was it this per chance?

Dell - Help Me Choose: Display

This lists both the 17.3" 1080p 60 Hz and 120 Hz m17x panels. The differences are 100 nits more brightness on the 120 Hz panel, and a glossy (truelife) finish on the 120 Hz panel (I thought both were glossy). It lists both as having the same 72% gamut coverage, as does the m18x display.

There is a big difference in quality between the 1600x900 and 1920x1080 displays though.

I'm not saying I trust any of this 100%, but it's the only documentation/specs I've seen.

 

They changed it

It was DEFINATELY lower previously, maybe they sourced better panels

 

ok so i have the M17X 3D laptop with the 460m video card, and i am currently on my 3rd replacement. I was growing very tired of this whole thing and was going to return it and get my money back and go to another company. however i saw now that the 580m is being offered on these laptops. I love the 3D on this laptop but can't deal with all its shortcomings. So when i saw the 580m being offered with the 3D display in the UK i was quite ecstatic. Usually the states receive the new stuff first, so i was quite surprised that this was being offered in the UK first. Does anyone know why? Well the real reason for my post is because i have been approved for a return and will be sending this back, however I just want to know when do you guys think that the U.S. will get the 580m and 3D option. I dont want to return this laptop and then have to wait to long. I would like some round about figure im not asking for an exact date. I would really appreciate any info you guys have.

 

I have had both 60hz and 120 hz panels side by side and I would NEVER buy a 60hz panel. I too like the 120hz and brighter and better screen. Unfortunately my r2 with the rgb is still good enough for me I can't get used to the 1080 vs 1200.

I recommend the 120hz panel to everyone who gets an r3. Now with the 580 you guys have the best panel available across the whole alienware lineup and a strong gpu. Don't cheap out on a poor panel it's the 1 thing you stare at 100% of the time.

 

Unfortunately it's $500 for that extra 100 nits of brightness and nothing else ($300 for GPU upgrade from 6990, and $200 for screen upgrade from 1080p/60). If the 580M was the same price or at least less than $100 from the 6990M, I might wait and go for that config, but as it stands I think the price has decided on a 6990M for me. Extra screen brightness is not worth $500 to me.

 

Extra screen brightness. better gamut. You stare at your screen 100% of the time and your gpu is working to the maximum how much of the time ? Browsing the web? No. Doing anything else besides gaming on maximum settings? 580 can also make the 120hz shine because it can pump uber frames.

Do I think it's worth the cost no not really. Not just because I do have an r3 with gtx460 for sale but in the games I played it was more than enough for me. Personally if I ordered another i would get the 460 over the 6990 too. the 60 hz panel blows. Every day I used it I was using Fn+brightness to make sure it was up all the way.

It's just me but i wouldnt buy an ugly car with power. I'd buy a Beautiful car without as much power.

 

will Dell upgrade 460m to 580m if we want ? and if so at what cost ?

 

a lot .

 

thanks for that informative reply...............it's all relative

if you where being payed $100 per intelligent key press it might be a long way to break even

it really depends if money is an issue

 

well true, if you want to waste money on ridiculous cpus then im sure 1000 bucks for a 580 is nothing to you.

why not.. give them a call and find out? then tell the rest of us.

fyi though, please don't insult my intelligence while simultaneously using 'where' in place of 'were'

 

If cards are in stock you can buy one but 850-1000 dollars for 1 card is alot of money.

You could also buy another system swap the XM/RAM/HDD and sell the system with the 460m.

Prices arent bad in Europe now since Dell lowered them.

Some configs are even cheaper in Europe than the US.

 

People are never happy here before people were complaining about not having more options for the 3d screen. Now that the 580 is available it's to expensive...

 

Ok I think no one saw my last post. Does anyone have any idea when the 580m will be available with the 120hz display and 3d in the states. I am returning my m17x right now and was going to get the 6990, however if the 580m 3d will be available within the next few weeks I will wait and purchase that. But if it isn't going to be available for another month or two then i will have to go with the 6990. Anyone know or have any type of information on this?

 

I totally hear you on the importance of the display. I will be using it for imaging work, to some extent. However, all of the Dell documentation I've found (link I posted earlier on page 4 of this thread) states that all the specs are identical for the two 1080p panels, except for the refresh rate and the extra brightness. The gamut numbers are identical. Are there benchamarks somewhere that indicate otherwise?

 

Call and they can manually config the 580 onto the laptop.

 

I am still looking into 2 different notebooks for my family. As such, I dug into this a bit this weekend. I called 3 seperate times talking to different reps each time. Each time I was told they could not configure the 3D with the 580M. I explained that I could do it on the UK site, but that made no difference. I am not saying your wrong, but that I had no success.

 

have you tried this? how do you know that this will work?

did they tell you anything about when it would be available?

 

No. they didn't, but I did not ask either. In hind sight, it would have been a good question - sorry.

 

its not your fault.