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    285m in r1?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by JPJPJP, Feb 20, 2011.

  1. JPJPJP

    JPJPJP Notebook Enthusiast

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    can 285m go into the r1?
     
  2. cleverpseudonym

    cleverpseudonym PG RATED

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    technically yes, but its hardly worth the "upgrade" it doesn't perform over the 4870s
     
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    spradhan01 Notebook Virtuoso

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    You can flash ur 280m to 285m and there you go.
     
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    Sir_Gawain Notebook Consultant

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    You actually believe that 285's dont perform over 4870's???
     
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    Kade Storm The Devil's Advocate

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    If people think splitting differences of 18-to-19-to-20 is signficiant, then the belief is justified. Otherwise, for practical application, it's a moot point.

    Anyway, to the OP, I would advise not bothering with this since a small overclock will make a 280m run just like the 285m. They are the same card, technically speaking.
     
  6. JPJPJP

    JPJPJP Notebook Enthusiast

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    either way, I think I got a good deal $420 for sli 285m(both) going into my r1
     
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    Kade Storm The Devil's Advocate

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    I should also add that you will not able to use Hybrid SLi without going through the BIOS procedure of enabling integrated GPU. I mean, all you're getting here is a rebadged 280m with mildly elevated clocks.

    However, if you're still eager for this deal, then all the best.
     
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    JPJPJP Notebook Enthusiast

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    so if i install the 285m, the 9400 doesnt work anymore?
     
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    Kade Storm The Devil's Advocate

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    Not in the traditional sense. You won't be able to use hybrid SLi as in all three cards working together. But, you always have the options to go into BIOS and activate your integrated GPU, which will then leave your system running ONLY in 9400m GS mode. To revert back to the 285s, you'll have to reboot, go into BIOS, and disable Integrated Graphics.
     
  10. DR650SE

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    Another thing to look out for is that people with 280M can be reflashing the VBIOS to a 285M and selling them as a 285M for more money. Not sure if this will cause additional problems, but you never know. They are pretty much the same card. I'd go with 280Ms as they will probably be cheaper.
     
  11. katalin_2003

    katalin_2003 NBR Spectre Super Moderator

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    They both use the same architecture/parts whatever you want(except the SLi connector for the m17x).
     
  12. cleverpseudonym

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    its not so much that i "believe" it, its that i Have seen the in real world applications, and while the 285s are a slight improvement over the 4870s in synthetic benches, the 4870s overclock better, and perform in game identically.....in my experience of course. Its possibility that your experience has been different than mine, however.
    just for instance, what kind of scores did you get in 3d06 & vantage. In my signature you can see what i was able to pull out of a dual core i5 & a pair of 4870s. did your Quad i7 & 285s beat those scores? im interested in seeing TBH.
     
  13. Kade Storm

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    I am not sure I understand your argument. You start by arguing that 285s only show improvement in synthetic benchmarks and that in real-world aplications they're about the same as the 4870s. Then to substantiate your point, you offer vantage and 3dMark06 (the epitome of synthetics where ATi cards show solid performance) as an example of better performance for the 4870s? Doesn't the imply the opposite, at least for half of the argument being proposed?

    I do agree, however, that the 4870s overclock much better than the 285s; that's where the age of the older Nvidia architecture starts to show. Again, this is splitting hair over mild differences in actual performance. Sure, some games that run at 80 FPS on one setup will run at 100 FPS on the other setup. A difference of about 20 FPS can look very substantial in games where both configurations are pointlessly running well above 60 FPS anyway. Nevertheless, it doesn't change the fact that the significance of the difference is practically moot when we consider the sheer scale of the performance that is already so high across the board. So the following question can stand.

    Does one pair of cards -- supposedly x-percent better in Vantage -- actually turn an otherwise unplayable game on the other pair of cards, into a playable experience? I have yet to see fruition on this front. The way I see it, when it comes to the kind of titles that actually make hardware bleed, all these cards grind to a relatively similar performance level. Aside from that, we're mostly arguing 50 FPS vs 60 FPS, and 80 FPS vs 100 FPS.