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    580M & 675M Please Post Here

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Hackintoshihope, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. Hackintoshihope

    Hackintoshihope AlienMeetsApple

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    I wanted to make a thread containing all failure/problems with either of the above GPU models. 675M being a rebrand of the 580M. Just to let other users who run into similar problems of failure know how truly unstable this GPU has become. This being due mostly to bad driver releases by nividia which fried the cards. Hopefully we can all list problems with this GPU helping to push people away from buying them as well as trying to prevent dell from replacing your card with yet another one.

    - Don't know if a thread like this would be useful so if it isn't, close it.
     
  2. JimboJet

    JimboJet Notebook Guru

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    GTX580m failed on my M17x R3 due (i think) to at least 2 blown SMD Capacitors. Have some pictures somewhere that I will upload when i find them.
     
  3. MickyD1234

    MickyD1234 Notebook Prophet

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    Hi Man, I'm game to join in if anyone is interested.

    I first came here with a 580m problem and even participated on the conference call with dell: http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...x-580m-78c-throttling-see-post-191-later.html. Now that's a saga in itself!

    I've helped literally dozens of people with failing 580m/675m's. I've had two 580's and two 675's so far myself.

    I'd take the root cause one level down (up?) from the driver. Although the voltage boost obviously damaged a LOT of cards, the fact is that they are unreliable to start with. Poor yields or something? As soon as the 580m hit people were trying overvolted vbios' and the failure rate was far higher than I have ever seen (10 years of using NV!). Blaming 3rd party OEM's because they overvolt their cards to start with is just weak. Everyone has been doing this for years and only since NV decided to get into the overclocking market via the driver 'Boost' feature has there been a large failure rate on a lot of Fermi cards (which do not even support boost.).

    Dell are aware of this already, although do not expect an admission. The last time I called it took 10 mins of tests and a new card was on it's way. No reinstall or ripping drivers out and another user recently commented how he was expecting a lot more diags and testing but they just sent a replacement.

    For anyone wondering if they have a hardware problem a dead give away is only being able to use driver version 314.22. This one still overvolts to 0.92v but does not appear to stress the card enough to damage it. Once problems start with that driver it's all over for the card.

    Now the surviving ones seem to be getting to 'that' age and just giving up :(. Because it's some weird internal damage the problems are not consistent, but sudden lockups and black screens with audio still running are common.

    HTH
     
  4. Hackintoshihope

    Hackintoshihope AlienMeetsApple

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    This is exactly the posts we need. I just want a thread to be dedicated to these problems. There are just to many issues with these cards to count.
     
  5. fosh4a

    fosh4a Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi
    Started to get black screen with audio running a week ago. The best thing that helped were win 8 reinstall and 269,03 driver version (recommended by Dell for my laptop), and i decided to stay at 60 Hz refresh rate (just in case). For now i am still getting that damn black screen sometimes (for example in World of tanks), but still i can work and play games (like league of legends still running smooth). No throttle so far. Have no idea how long my 580m will stay alive.
     
  6. MickyD1234

    MickyD1234 Notebook Prophet

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    Hi,

    I take it it is a 120hz model/3D R3? Time to consider your options as it's only going to get worse, and that driver is so old (there is a later one dell publish in the 3xx series, some games require this).

    Basically the card is failing and just changing things (anything) will change the way it performs. You've done the OS re-install AND using the original dell driver. If it fails (black screen) soon after entering windows then only safe mode will get you back in :(.

    On the R3 120hz your only replacement options are Nvidia. 3D will no longer work with any better GPU, but 120hz does. You do not need an unlocked bios in the 120hz model so a 680m is a rock solid replacement.

    You will need to modify one of the driver files for the hardware to be detected by the installer but laptopvideo2go publish these for every NV driver release (and some that never hit the 'wild').

    Ebay the card. The totally best option as far as the heatsink goes is to buy a new one for the R4/680m from Dell. Runs around £40.00 with shipping. It comes with the pads/paste in-place so takes all the stress of getting that right. You can use the 580m one as long as you get the x-bracket with the 680m. Pads are reusable so you'd only need to purchase paste - I never recommend a paste, there are plenty of people that have theor preference but from a performance viewpoint it does not make a huge difference for the 'average' upgrader.

    Any questions? - I'm sure there are :p
     
  7. HelloMoto163

    HelloMoto163 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Im also a 580m failure victim.
    Started with black screens and and weird audio like "drrrrrrr" and then crashing. Mostly on youtube etc. Games were still ok. Then more and more failed. Next step were random crashs just in idle.
    Now its nearly impossible to get into windows with nvidia drivers. I can still use it with windows standard vga drivers but random crashes already began here too. : /
     
  8. Hackintoshihope

    Hackintoshihope AlienMeetsApple

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    Keep on posting. I know it sucks, but the more we post, the more people know.
     
  9. MickyD1234

    MickyD1234 Notebook Prophet

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    Exactly the same as my last one and a lot of people recently. I ended up with only safe mode working :(.

    Time to consider replacing the card I'm afraid. Have a look through this thread for one option: http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-17-m17x/761091-hd7970m-died.html#post9769118