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    680m with 3d screen

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Kastulu, Sep 11, 2012.

  1. Kastulu

    Kastulu Notebook Geek

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    I have still yet to place my laptop order (680s being in short supply didnt help) But I am finally just about ready to order and suddenly want the 3d screen with the 680. I havent seen too much info on the M17x r4s with 3D.

    Anyone have this setup and have any input? is the 120mhz screen look that much better? How many 3D games are even out there? lol

    Was looking at the 3720 cpu, 16 gig ram, 680m, blue ray, 256 SSD... probably throw OS on a Msata.

    Thanks.. Geo
     
  2. Mvejerslev

    Mvejerslev Notebook Guru

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    You probably wont notice any visual difference between the 120hz and 60hz screens. Its 120 hz because the active shutter glasses shuts 60 times per second per eye. Here's a few things to consider: Optimus is permanently disabled if you go for the 3D screen (you'll never use the iGPU on the CPU that you also paid for). And your FPS will be cut in half once you go 3D. That said the GTX680 is up for it, and can run all the latest games in ultra detail - in 3D.

    Go for it - I play in 3D 60% of my playtime, and enjoy watching 3D movies. With the M17's THX surround sound and full HD 3D movies and games, youre in for a treat. If you have the money. You can play most games in 3D, but the most optimized ones are the ones to go for first.
     
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    All games are typically made in 3D, such has been the case for a years now. This is what allows you depth perception in game and how you can tell that the bush is in front of the tree and the player is behind that tree. What was said previously also alludes to that, every game that has depth to it will allow for 3D play on the monitor. There are games optimized for 3D display, a different way of coding the graphics that is more efficient without having the computer to work more for the same effect, but you don't necessarily need the game to be made for 3D to be able to utilize it. Nvidia also releases 3D profile updates that further the efficiency of the games being played. So even if a game was released before 3D monitors were a common thing, you'll still be able to enjoy it in 3D.

    Most serious gamers do opt for the 3D display solely for the 120 hz refresh rate. It allows smoother gameplay and that split second advantage over players who don't have that fast of a monitor. One of the guys here plays BF3 competitively and refuses to play on anything besides a 120hz monitor. I personally don't see a difference, but I also don't play competitively.
     
  4. jaeyang9

    jaeyang9 Notebook Consultant

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    3D is awesome. get it.

    120Hz screen is great even for non-3D applications. you will notice an extra smoothness.

    as for the igpu being disabled due to optimus incompatibility with 3D, i don't mind at all. i always plug it into the wall anyway for max performance.

    i would also recommend just going with the default 6gb ram and hdd. you can purchase an ssd and addtional ram online for a fraction of the price dell is charging for those upgrades.

    to be honest you'll have a hard time coming anywhere close to using 8gb of ram. 16gb is just overkill... i have 8gb on my m11x... never even came close to 75% usage, so i went with 6gb on my m17x. at least this way i feel like i might actually be using the memory that i paid for. lol :p
     
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  5. maverick1989

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    In my opinion, a higher frame rate is not the reason one should go for a 3D display. Firstly, games like BF3 and the other newer ones are not going to get you to 60Hz on a 680m. You can reduce the settings to get that but even then, I think 60Hz is plenty to get a headshot on a moving target.
     
  6. Jazz8

    Jazz8 Notebook Guru

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    I've owned both and the biggest (noticeable) difference was in the brightness as the 120hz is much brighter. The Nvidia drivers are also a lot better and seem to work more fluidly (IMHO). Hope this helps a little! :)
     
  7. reechings

    reechings Notebook Evangelist

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    As Jazz8 said, one of the biggest reasons I would recommend the 120Hz screen is for the brightness that it gives you which is huge for daytime usage with this unit. That being said, I am a huge fan of playing any games I can in 3D, turning it off and on in some games and seeing how much more realistic people and hallways etc. look is awesome. The hit on FPS is unfortunate and in some games even the 680m can't handle 3D AND all of the eye candy but these are the most demanding games only and you can tweak settings and worst case scenario bump the resolution down a bit and it's still awesome.

    For the money I shelled out for this system (even with the good deal I got), I would have been kicking myself everyday if I didn't at least have the OPTION to use 3D.
     
  8. Kastulu

    Kastulu Notebook Geek

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    Thanks guys.. I think its going to go on my order. Sometimes I get noticeable eye fatigue with lower refresh rates - which above all is worth the extra bucks.
     
  9. Mvejerslev

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    Noticable eye fatigue is also something you will experience while getting accustomed to the 3D technology. Especially if the game is not optimized for 3D - sometimes you'll experience artifacts such as ghosting, and your eyes will tire. But I've found my eyes have gotten accustomed to it now, and I can play for longer with no issues.
     
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    Regular 3D like the Nintendo DS without glasses is tough on the eyes because your eyes don't know what they're focusing on and so they try doing some crazy maneuvers to compensate. You'll experience the same thing with glasses but for the most part you have a fixed focal point which allows your eyes a little rest and won't happen once you get used to it like Mvejerslev mentioned. There will definitely be a period of getting used to it though. If not using 3D you won't notice any extra strain than a normal screen would give.
     
  11. Attacus

    Attacus Notebook Enthusiast

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    Some games are incredible with 3d like trine and witcher 2.