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    6870m vs gtx 460m

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Mobius 1, Aug 11, 2011.

  1. Mobius 1

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    toughts?

    it's only $75 but how's the performance increase?


    btw, i will buy the better one (6870m or 460m)

    2.2 ghz i7
    killer-n

    with all remaining at stock (default) settings


    crysis 2? metro? MW3? BF3?


    thx
     
    Mobius 1, Aug 11, 2011
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    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Well asking about MW3 or BF3 is useless as they aren't out yet. If both at stock, they perform similarly, the 460m may be a few frames quicker. Why don't you opt for the 6990m or the 580m? Both of them are around twice as fast as their lower counterparts ie 6990 is roughly 2x 6870 and the 580m is almost exactly 2x 460m.
     
    widezu69, Aug 11, 2011
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    Looking at your post it sound like you are going to get a M17x R3 with a 2720 ($150) a 1103 ($80), and maybe a 460/560m ($75). All the ($$$) adds up to $305!

    I would highly recommend you NOT do any of that.

    1) The GPU is weakest part of your system, the 2720 will offer little advantage over the free 2630, save the $150.

    2) The 6870 and the 460m are pretty much equal. I'd get the 6870, unless the 560m is an option for $75 in which case the 560m is a decent 10% upgrade.

    3) I would take that $300 and get the $200 6970 or $300 6990. Either one is way faster than the 6870 or 460m, by upwards of 50%+!

    4) Don't get the Killer wifi card through dell, you can get a 1102 on ebay for $45.

    My advice, spend your money on things you cannot upgrade later or things that are expensive to upgrade later. EXAMPLES are Video cards, monitors, CPUs.

    You sound like a guy on a budget, I respect that because I have one too. If were you I'd get the 6970 for $200, and the 1080p screen for $150. Then upgrade the CPU and wifi at a later date if you feel the need. The GPU is very expensive to upgrade later, the monitor is almost impossible to upgrade later, and this 2630 is very powerful CPU so a CPU upgrade is of dubious value.

    All this is my opinion but I think others will agree.
     
    ValkerieFire, Aug 11, 2011
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    how much faster is the 460m compared to 6870?


    ok i will reconsider spec. since i'm using ethernet and USB internet stick most of the time and the 2.2 i7's diff is the 1600mhz ddr support


    i'm a noob at game comp specs btw
     
    Mobius 1, Aug 11, 2011
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    just a note, last I checked, the non3D version of the GTX460m in the m17xR3 had a strange Optimus glitch related, specifically, with it and no other GPU.
     
    jeremyshaw, Aug 11, 2011
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    i'm considering a 6970m

    i hope my budget increases :(
     
    Mobius 1, Aug 11, 2011
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    Unless you need 1600mhz RAM for something crazy, that is not a really good reason to get the 2720. Benchmarks show the 1600mhz RAM has no real life improvement over 1333mhz. However, I chose the 2720 for the 400mhz speed bumb. Honestly though I've had the 2630 and the 2720 and I cannot tell the difference. It's your money though, I am just trying to help.

    The 6870 and the 460m are nearly identical. The 460m will be faster at PhysX titles and DX11, the 6870 will be faster at DX9&10. See this...
    Comparison of Laptop Graphics Cards - Notebookcheck.net Tech

    It is really a matter of personal preference but for the $$$ the 6870 is the better deal. The 6970 for $200 is a much better deal IMHO.
     
    ValkerieFire, Aug 11, 2011
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    okay, i selected i7 2ghz.

    anymore cost pressing tips?

    also use extra money for 6970
     
    Mobius 1, Aug 11, 2011
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    the 2630 can do 1600 mhz too. just a change in the bios..
     
    james_2k, Aug 11, 2011
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    Lower L3 cache though ;)
     
    LVNeptune, Aug 11, 2011
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    2630 and 2720 have the same LV :p 6m
     
    james_2k, Aug 11, 2011
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    That is the 2820 w/the 8mb cache, the 2630 and the 2720 both have 6mb caches.

    EDIT: AHHH MISSED IT BY MILISECONDS!
     
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    echo !
     
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    You will also have to consider whether you're a sucker for Nvidia's 3D Vision..
     
    maxtek, Aug 11, 2011
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    You must talking about me. I love the nvidia 3d . Worth every dollar
     
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    Brabostaan, Aug 11, 2011
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    ^ wow how the heck?


    btw, how do u apply 4 dell partner discount?
     
    Mobius 1, Aug 11, 2011
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    the 2630QM and the 2720QM have 6MB.
     
    Brabostaan, Aug 11, 2011
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    i configured the same spec as Runes911

    it's $1900+

    how????
     
    Mobius 1, Aug 11, 2011
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    He got a lot of discount. Do not order online but call or chat with a rep.
     
    Brabostaan, Aug 11, 2011
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    okay, i will try 2 do that
     
    Mobius 1, Aug 11, 2011
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    btw how does the 6970m compared to 6990m?

    it's $100 more
     
    Mobius 1, Aug 12, 2011
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    The 6990m is the best mobile card on the market right now.
     
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    is the $100 a good performance gain from the 6970?
     
    Mobius 1, Aug 12, 2011
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    haha .
     
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    The 580m would like to disagree.
     
    zoolian982, Aug 12, 2011
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    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Back up your point please. I would love to see a Vantage run using the voltmoded vbios at 560 Ti levels :D
     
    widezu69, Aug 12, 2011
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    but that takes effort :(
     
    james_2k, Aug 12, 2011
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    ok did a run at 810mhz/1900 memory in vantage (which is the highest afterburner can go)

    not bad results (posted in vs thread)

    1000 graphics points higher than inaps vastly overclocked 6990 :p
     
    james_2k, Aug 12, 2011
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    Nice...! Get Nvidia Inspector and push this card to the limits... :D
     
    svl7, Aug 12, 2011
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    run at 840 coming up
     
    james_2k, Aug 12, 2011
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    over 18200 at 850/1900 that enough for you? :p
     
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    No, of course not :D How far can you push this card before it crashes? Is 850MHz the limit?
     
    svl7, Aug 12, 2011
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    860 caused it to lose 20 points.. which i thought was weird. but it didnt crash.

    but thats enough for today, flashed back stock bios :)

    but im happy with those results
     
    james_2k, Aug 12, 2011
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    Thought I saw a benchmark thread somewhere. :p
     
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    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Nice scores! +rep and enough, lets keep this thread on topic :)
     
    widezu69, Aug 12, 2011
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