This is actually a very important aspect. As much as I've tried to dismiss the 3D as just a gimmick, the few reviews so far have been positive. I'd rather order a 3D capable system and buy the stronger card later. If the 485M isn't available later I wonder if the 6970M will be compatible with the 3D screen R3's.....
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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that people who think they will be using 3D in the next few months/years should order the PC with the 460M and then upgrade later on to the 485M (IF EVER AN OPTION) but most likely 560M will be an option.
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I like the 120Hz screen too
damn, I hope you didn't just lean me towards team green
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I'm with you man.... gotta get that 920XM first you pointed out at Ebay
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doesn't matter anyway - r3 doesn't have an amd transmitter.
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If you buy the 3d kit from nvidia it has an external transmitter. I am positive that amd cards will be able to run 3 d on the 120 it will just require their kit which surely will have an external receptor/transmitter.
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Thx for the info guys. Whats 10char mean anyway lol sry... Any idea if the 1080p 60hz is still nice? Dunno if Ive seen anyone review without the 120hz yet..
Also I already got the bag that was part if my order ( though they have 2 seperate order #'s) , think theyll want that shipped back too or can I just pay for it and keep it for the new system heh?
Thx again
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it should be like the M15x display i current have, its pretty nice.
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So should I wait for the 6970 to show up on the US website before I call to cancEl / reorder?
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I'd pay double to avoid using a chiclet keyboard.
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I've just hope some one could get it work in R2
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Isn't the keyboard almost separated enough to be a chiclet? I was looking at your pictures, and the keys look like there's some space between them...
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Nope, the keyboard is the same as the R1/R2 keyboard.
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its not really seperate, its the outline for the lighting. the keys are actually really close together.
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Oh ok, the white lines and dark lighting definitely fooled me.
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Let's not confine ourselves within a single square. There are good chiclet keyboards out there as there are bad classic KB's. I'm a long term ThinkPadd er myself, but have to admit that some chiclet KB's and hybrids are really outstanding (Elitebooks) even though it takes time to switch and adjust. R1 and R2 was ok in terms of KB, but not outstanding, imho.
BTW, I'd rather worry about keyboard lag, far more important point here
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Agreed. I couldn't stand the W860CU chiclet keyboard, every stroke felt like the keyboard was going to break in half, not to mention after using the WASD keys all day i noticed some of the keys started to squeak, I guess that could happen to any keyboard.
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The Asus G73 keyboard had me so upset I've been scarred for life. lol
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so with this new video card "6970" that are going to be in the r3's does this mean they are going to be able to compete with the r2's? or are they even better now?
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Not better but as good as 5870CF and in some rare cases faster by few frames only so far
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Based on the available data, which is scant by comparison to mature cards, I'd say with SB CPU and IGP functionality, yes. For power, yes as well.. I think in games that utilize CF tech it edges the single 6970 by a slight margin. -
wow so with the new video card these r3's are just as good as the r2s lol i just bought this thing two days ago, i really like it though, red is so awesome.
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It's a bit early for such a claim. We still don't know how good is the cooling and will there be some stable OC'ing headroom.
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Eh, ok. That wasn't what the poster asked. I just formed the conclusion based on available data, which is scant.
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wow so with the new video card these r3's are just as good as the r2s lol i just bought this thing two days ago, i really like it though, red is so awesome.
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My guess, 6970M will perform better when finalized and paired with a SB CPU. It may even beat the 485M.
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Not really. An OC'd CPU really means little at 1080p, in all but a few types of games.
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Maybe, maybe not. Either way, they're both great cards, and have a lot of life ahead of them for purchasers and that's all that really matters.
As always, if you're happy with your rig, stick with your rig. Chasing the latest and greatest becomes more important than enjoying what you've got, which is the reason you bought the thing in the first place: entertainment.
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would the 6970 ever be able to go in a r2?
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but 920/940 you also have multiplier manipulation too
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i wonder how much money the new r3's are going to cost with the CPU and GPU the highest they offer and the harddrive normal size.
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Likely not. Just enjoy your rig, 8 months down the line the Next Big Thing will be out and you can throw that in if you're so inclined. -
That's too bad...the R2 keyboard flexes and it's not evenly backlit. Really cheesy keyboard really for such an expensive machine.
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I wouldn't call the R3 expensive
You get a really good deal for the price.
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Ah, ok.
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Thread closed. Thank the folks who derailed the thread with bickering and turning it into another R2 vs R3 flame fest. Trust me folks, this will not be allowed to continue. I suggest you seriously review the forum rules before posting.
6970 now avaliable for M17xR3!
Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by usshellfire, Jan 28, 2011.