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    6970m safe temperature

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Scottyboy99, May 21, 2013.

  1. Scottyboy99

    Scottyboy99 Notebook Consultant

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    hi

    I recently had the 6970m gpu replaced under warranty. I wanted to check the temps via GPUZ. I noticed idle it runs about 55-60c. However under full load with fans cranking on 3d mark06 I see gpu die #2 and #3 reach about 83c and sometimes even as high as 86c. Is this safe? On my previous card that went wrong it usually maxed at about 82/83c under 3d mark 06. There is no difference in performance as I am pulling same score / fps but its kust the temperature seems a tad higher. I did google around but see so many conflicting answers regarding temps. Some say this is too hot whilst others say under full stress to expect temps in high 80s even low 90s.

    I tried a game left 4 dead 2 and the two dies seemed to max at about 82c. Also why are die# 2 and 3 always a few celdius hotter than die 1

    Cheers

    Wayne
     
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    Repaste with ICD24 or AS5, and then undervolt if you are stlil seeing trouble with temps. Most stable voltage I was able to go on stock clocks was 0.96 if i remember correctly.
     
  3. TheBlackIdentity

    TheBlackIdentity Notebook Evangelist

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    ICD24 is no better than ICd7. AS5 is completely out dated and performs nowhere near as well as modern pastes. It's also conductive so using it on the gpu isn't advisable by any means.

    Get some ICD7 or Antec Formula 7 and repaste it with that. If you want something cheaper than get Arctic MX-4. Keep in mind that it will ware out in about 3-4 weeks while the diamond pastes last 3-4 months.
     
  4. Scottyboy99

    Scottyboy99 Notebook Consultant

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    Cheers guys. That aside would you say temps under full stress for this card of 85/86c ish are too high/bad then? I would be interested to see what others get temp wise on the 6970m
     
  5. TheBlackIdentity

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    85 is where you need to repaste. 80 and under is preferable if you want it to live more than a year. Doing a repasting on the m17x r3 is easy as cake. If you use ICD7 or Antec F7 your temps can drop by up to 10c. While you're at it do it for the cpu to. Temps will go down,fans wont have to spin that fast making your system run cool and quiet.
     
  6. CptXabaras

    CptXabaras Overclocked, Overvolted, Liquid Cooled

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    Sorry but..

    who told you that the card will only last a year if temperatures are at 85 degrees? Also, a paste job wont last only 3-4 weeks, neither only 3-4 months. 1 year is more reasonable, and there are people who never repasted, that simply didn't care about their laptop temperatures or didn't even know that there are temperature sensors in a pc, and their laptop are still up and running. Not everybody is an enthusiast.

    Guys, there is huge difference between peak temperature and the average the card is running at, as well as his load%. Use HWinfo to monitor 1 hour of playing the more demanding game you have and you will see that the cards get an average of at least 10 degrees less in average than compared to what is reported as Max (peak) temperature.

    OP: i wouldn't worrry that much, a repaste of course may improve things, but i don't think you risk to blow up your cards.
     
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    Repasting would be a good idea, it seems hot to me and it could be lowered down with that and a good cooling pad.
     
  8. Scottyboy99

    Scottyboy99 Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the replies guys. I guess I am a tiny bit more relaxed about the temps. I tried running crysis for about 20 minutes which I knew would push the gpu probably as hard as its going to get. Temp got upto 86c but it was nice and steady as if the fans were keeping it nicely in check. Over an AMD forum it has been said that temps into high 80s and low 90s are not uncommon.

    I do appreciate the suggestions re thermal paste. The way I see it though is o paid a huge amount for the laptop so I should not be having to worry about tinkering inside repasting, undervolting etc. a person wouldn't be expected to open up their super smart/expensive TV or a console so I find it frustrating that with gaming laptops there is an expectancy to do stuff like this.

    Cheers for your help guys. I would of course like to see what others show as their highest gpu temps when playing games like crysis or running 3d mark 06 (I know it's outdated but I like it)


    Thanks
    Wayne
     
  9. Scottyboy99

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    Actually one thing I should make clear is my gpu temp under load never goes above 75c according to the GPUZ log. That's what is in the gpu column and gpu#1 column. The higher readings I mention are those in the gpu#2 and #3 column - not sure what these represent.

    Cheers
    Wayne
     
  10. TheBlackIdentity

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    I'm not even gonna begin to school you on these subjects. 85-86 is too high. End of story. As for the pastes. That is personal experience. MX-4 will start to decay after about 3-4 weeks. The diamond pastes are the best and last the longest.
     
  11. .Cameron.

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    I've had MX-4 on my 7970Ms for six months now and they still won't exceed 75°C, which was the ceiling under load when I first pasted them (same idle at ~35°C too). And while 85°C is warm, I think that saying that it's objectively too hot is a bit of a stretch; laptop components are engineered to have better heat tolerance because of less adequate cooling.