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    6990m

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Mj082, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. Mj082

    Mj082 Notebook Guru

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    By notebookcheck the 6990m is better than 580 so i just wonder
    Why the hell 580 costs 300$ more? o_O
    Also im kinda upset that after less then 2 months of having this laptop a new gpu came out and its only 50$ diff :(( , anyway i could get the 6990? (21 days have past :(( ) , any suggestion would be nice , if it involves buying brand new one and just selling my old one i'm not sure if i'll go through this for 17% and i might just wait for the next gen gpu :S ...
     
  2. JoeyFUZZ911

    JoeyFUZZ911 Notebook Evangelist

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    You could do like me and wait for a supplier to sell it separately and then buy it and put it in and sell your old card.

    Also, Nvidia has always been more expensive than AMD. It's just how it it.
     
  3. Mj082

    Mj082 Notebook Guru

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    Any idea how much will brand new 6990m cost?
    Also for how much we can sell our 6970m? :/
    since the diff in the site is 50$ i hope since selling second hand gpu and buying brand new wont make the diff huge.. :(
     
  4. Master_Axe

    Master_Axe Notebook Guru

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    Lots of people have this "problem" of excessive luxury. Do like the smart people do, and wait out the 7000 series next year. Your 6970 will undoubtedly hold easily until then.

    Quick side note: Notebookcheck used a desktop GPU which has the same core as the 6990 and same clocks... I'd still hold my breath however. 40nm is 40nm and you can't just pull extra power without extra W out of your a$$, and extra W means extra heat. ESPECIALLY if the 6970 and 6990 are the same card, just one has more processors and more clock.

    German forums are very hesitant about the 6990- so am I. I dare wager a large percentage of laptops with 6990s will experience fatal technical difficulties after 1-2 years. I'd also wager a majority of laptop sales are w/o extended warranty.

    €dit: And don't call on Dell's reputation. What they did with the 8600s should be illegal...
     
  5. Shaden

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    what did they do with the 8600s ... i have one ...
     
  6. Master_Axe

    Master_Axe Notebook Guru

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    All NVIDIA 8400M / 8600M chips faulty? -- Engadget

    I personally know of 2 people that got dealt some really crappy cards... 1 year warranty ^_^. If I remember the procedure correctly (was using a different forum at the time), numerous people got the same faulty replacement cards to push them over the warranty. Many cases happened at the 1 year mark, screwing them completely. Heck, my best friend bought a 8600 AFTER that article was written. His Alienware held 1 year and 2 weeks.


    €dit: ROFL I FORGOT the worst part! The Dell drivers! How epic, they released drivers to turn on the machince's fans (constantly), and upped the top temp the GPU could reach till forced-shutdown. Hahaha. This was the reason people formed the conspiracy theory above xD.
     
  7. Shaden

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    wow, pretty crazy, my 8600m has worked for over 3 years, and I have pushed it until it was hot enough to fry and egg on my lap .... guess I got lucky
     
  8. lukimonki

    lukimonki Notebook Geek

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    I'd wait theres no games out right now dat the 6990 can handle that the 6970 cant handle with any noticeable difference my plan is to upgrade my hardrive and other stuff that can be gutted and put in a new computer easily than when my video card has problems playing games in 1 or 2 years I'll buy a new one with the money I would've put aside so I could afford a new laptop in those 1 or 2 years
     
  9. JoeyFUZZ911

    JoeyFUZZ911 Notebook Evangelist

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    or you could do like they said and wait for the 7000's series???

    I personally have the money to spend on the 6990m and I'm good at selling stuff so I'll get a good chunck of my money back.
     
  10. terminus123

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    GTX 580m costs more due to a few reasons:
    -more transistors, thus higher cost in manufacturing (though a lot of the transistors are used only in CUDA)
    -Nvidia came out first--thus they could set the price
    -Nvidia has a lot more marketing going on than AMD...thus more $$$ needed.
     
  11. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    You will lose your warranty, unless you buy the 6990m through Dell... Food for thought.
     
  12. Mj082

    Mj082 Notebook Guru

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    You mean that if i'll wait for the 7000's series and buy a card then i will lose my warranty? :/
    And if so , if i will buy the gpu from dell when its avilable ?? :|
     
  13. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    so what is the tdp of the 6970m and the 6990m? notebookcheck only infers on that, we dont have it. if you do pass along
     
  14. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

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    It is 75-100 Watts. The Nvidia is listed as 100 Watts. We would need the same GPU to be in the same laptop to compare thermals but they probably both use as much power as the other, although Nvidia tends to use more power.
     
  15. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    where 75-100w? thats quite jump! I can put 2 mid range cards in that tdp difference! where did you find the info? notebookcheck? they dont even know for sure
     
  16. Bartlett

    Bartlett The Prophet

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    Well it is on various sites but both will have a TDP of 100W, as it is with all high end notebook cards.
     
  17. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    basically what you are saying that there are a lot of sites, that not even heard from the horses mouth about it. so it means that they dont also have the info and speculated based on what nvidia offered. The 5770 was also a 100w tdp card, just like the 6870, what is the tdp of the 5870m?
     
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    No MJ082, What I meant was that if you buy a another GPU while your warranty is in effect then you sell the GPU that originally shipped to make up the cost difference. Your warranty will be void, because when Dell needs to do a replacement or if you have to do a DEPOT repair and you don't have the original shipped specs they will not fix your system. These specs are locked to each Service tag. If you purchase the new card through Dell it will be upgraded to that Service tag then you can sell the old card and make some money back while the new card which you purchased will be the card attached to your service tag, and be covered under warranty there by not voiding your warranty.
     
  19. inap

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    if you buy the new card from dell then they can add it to your existing warranty.
     
  20. T2050

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    TDP of 100W!

    Sound like the battery may burn up when running on battery, the 6970M heat the battery up to dangerous heat levels after 15 mintues or so, I wonder what the 6990M will do to it?

    Anyone know what the max clocks are when on battery for the 6990M?
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    whatever you want after a little flashing ;)
     
  22. Mastersean22

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    Don't know if this info will apply here but I recently ordered an M17x with the 6970. Yesterday it was finished in the production stage, yesterday night while browsing I came upon the 6990. Naturally after hearing about a new affordable card that I missed out on I frantically researched it and then emailed my dell resolution expert that I had been in contact with. After a little back and forth she advised me not to cancel my order since it was being readied for shipping and that after I received the laptop she would be able to ship the part separately for installment. I believe I will still only have to pay $50 for the upgrade.
     
  23. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    dont believe, know for sure. if your rep is good, spread around to people that are at the same spot that you are
     
  24. Smooth_J

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    Please...

    I am in the same boat with the 3D model. I ordered a 460 and soon, like everyone is saying, the 580 will possibly take it place.

    So, if and when that time comes, I will need to do the same.