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    920xm arrived and installed... Can't OC?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by unphoto, Mar 7, 2013.

  1. unphoto

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    As the subject says:

    Cpuz id's it as a OEM 920xm.
    I can use throttle stop to alter tdp and turbo core's
    After all the checks, the benchmarks shows (when using TS) it does not clock further then x15 on 4 cores

    Pleh?
     
  2. unphoto

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    Thank you for the help jiggymf.
    x25 rep :D

    Core 1: 26
    Core 2: 26
    Core 3: 25
    Core 4: 25

    TDP: 95
    TDC: 68

    Clock Mod: 100%
    Chip Mod: 100%
    Set Multi: Turbo

    EIST: Checked
    All Other Boxes: Unchecked
     
  3. Trome71

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    This all your settings?
    Why you go for 25 on some cores? Heat?
     
  4. maxslo

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    Great, have you tried to OC FSB too?
     
  5. unphoto

    unphoto Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, these are my stable setting and i get the results as seen in my signature...?
    Heat is around 85~98, but i think that the 9x0XM was designed to run hot, it runs pretty hot at stock level already (yes, i know how to apply TIM :))

    OC' ing thru FSB makes almost every setting when oc'ing with TS unstable or run super hot.
    Turns out that i was running 2% OC and running all 4 cores on x26 but that resulted in BSOD in 20 minutes.

    I have seen that there is no real thread where people compare OC notes.
    Yes there are random people that posted some setting but not the TDP (Watts and amps) so i thought i'd throw my complete settings in here :)

    Maybe others can do the same and post what temps the cpu is running at.
     
  6. maxslo

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    My 740QM @ 150FSB runs to 90°C xD

    Wow, thats, not ideal :(
    Maybe the extreme CPU dont like the FSB and multi overclocking at the same time :(
     
  7. unphoto

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    Well, it almost looks like the 1~5% OC from BIOS (or SetFSB clocks) are ment for the non XM cpu's.
    I spoke with jiggymf (has an OEM 940XM) and he also has the same problem that he can't even boot with 5% OC (BIOS).....

    I had no real issues with booting with 5% (BIOS) OC when i had my I7 620m.
     
  8. maxslo

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    Wow, but that feature was actually locked for all CPU's except the XM ones.
    Alienware fail much xD they should do the opposite.
     
  9. unphoto

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    Well it's not as simple as you make it out to be...
    I haven't really tried messing with it yet.

    Using mVolts will raise the heat very fast and the thing is (like i mentioned earlier) de XM models tend to run hotter @Stock.
    I think this has to do with the 55W TDP.
    At this moment my TDP is already @95W so using mVolt's to stabilize a higher clock would mean BD ProcHot (Shut down for Processor HOT) so i would be wasting heat/energy for nothing really.

    The bios was meant for the XM cpu's, thats a fact.
    Thing is that, when this BIOS was made, throttlestop didn't exist yet so there was no other way to OC in general.

    I'll try to compare OC values using the 5% plus overvolt and my current settings to see wich will runner hotter and wich will outscore the other.
     
  10. Trome71

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    Hmmmm doing OC with 3% in BIOS and your TDP settings and 25 on all cores gives me 19600 CPU score in vantage.
    21200 total with no overclock on GPU.
    Had to slightly elevate back of computer to manage the temp without CPU breaks been put on due to High temp. About 1 cm.
    Only have master GPU fan running and CPU. The "empty" slave was killed during dismantling to be able to resolder power socket on mainboard.
    The second GPU fan would probably help out a little.
     
  11. unphoto

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    Well i am running the latest driver version (314.07) and i managed to get a good tweaking done to get a stable setup from my cpu with bios OC (5%) and TS OC.
    The GPU is also fixed at max.....don't mind all the temps thought....not even gonna spoil it :)

    I spend this evening squeezing every bit of performance out of my setup for a proper benchmark.

    End result = see signature :)
    Seems i am the first person that managed to log this kind of data with my specific setup in Futuremark's database :D
     
  12. Trome71

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    I cannot do anything with my GPU.
    If i start MSI afterburner and try to unlock my computer crashes.

    What CPU score do you get int the different 3Dmark?
     
  13. unphoto

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    Thats MSI afterburner. It also locks up my laptop.
    I think it has to do something with the locked settings.
    You can google for the line you need to place in the .cfg file to unlock afterburner.

    If that doesn't work then i don't know whats causing the problem.
    Afterburner never worked for me on this laptop, however it works as my main oc tool on my desktop.

    I don't understand the question
     
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    I think he meant to ask what is your CPU score in different 3DMark (01,03,05,06,11).
     
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    Freaking wireless keeps dropping my connection :mad:, sry for double post.
     
  16. King of Interns

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    87W tdp, 65 tdc is enough for me to run 25x at 100% load. Tested with prime 95 and for 16 hour video encoding runs. Temps maxed at 95C and the cpu remained stable at this temp for all that time no problem. The 920xm is a very hardy chip indeed.
     
  17. unphoto

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    Well, the bechmark scores in my signature are hyperlinks.
    Click 'em for full details.

    When you click the P8009, you'll see that i am the first person who uploaded this highscore /benchmark that is registered at Futuremark.

    I think i can do better but it already works fine :)
    Just waiting to see if someone will beat my score.

    If that doesn't happen soon, i'll just see how stable @low power i can get.
     
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    Try disabling the ability for the OS to power it down in device manager (right click the wireless card and go to the properties).
     
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    No, It's a faulty WiFi card, i've exhausted all other options, and this is a bit offtopic :D
    I just wrote that to explain why did i double post
     
  20. unphoto

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    Maybe THIS can help
     
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    Is there a big difference between Intel 6300 and Killer Wireless 1103?

    I was just looking to get a 6300 earlier, but i'm not entirely decided yet.
     
  22. unphoto

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    Yes, very much so.
    The 6300 is a very good wifi card but suffers from high latency issues.
    The killer is 1103 is the best card and designed for gaming.

    Google: centrino 6300 vs killer 1103.
    Be aware there is a HUGE thread here dedicated to issues with the killer wifi card.

    If you would buy both cards retail, the Killer would be twice the price of the Intel wifi card.
     
  23. Trome71

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    'Ahhh i could click your signature to see unphoto..
    CPU score above 20 000 nice .