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    980m in m17x r4

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by True Debreuil, Aug 27, 2018.

  1. True Debreuil

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    Hey guys, Just checking if anyone knows if an msi 8gb gsync card will work with an m17x r4

    Cheers!
     
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    IIRC it cannot be gysnc at all, but maybe it might work?
     
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    only in optimus mode, cannot work with 3d panel or PEG mode with 60hz panel
     
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    Ended up putting the card in my m15x, and despite what you told me it works fine. All i had to do was set the LCD to be driven by the internal EDP driver in the unlocked bios. This may work for pascal aswell.
     
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    M15X doesn't have eDP
     
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    what are you referring to...?
     
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    I'm confused as well, the M15X never had a eDP option available to the wide public, although I do believe it does have an unsoldered eDP connector on the motherboard
     
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    The unlocked bios has a setting to drive the LCD via some sort of EDP setting. I turned that on, I don't know if it actually does something or not but my gtx 980m is working in the m15x and its not the 13d7 model its the 1617 one
     
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    obviously you should buy a 1060 or 1070 and see if that works then
     
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    I want to know a couple of things, what LCD you have, what and where did you get your BIOS, and why does your BIOS have an eDP option? Maybe it was a prototype unit accidentally set out? Who knows...
    But is the monitor 120HZ or anhthing, and what is it?
     
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    Better test would be to load defaults and see if that changes anything in windows. If it does, he’s on to something. If not, it’s just a dummy setting, lots of those in every bios
     
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    the monitor is a 1920x1080 model 60hz but it can be overclocked to 120 but I usually run it at 100hz
     
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    and no I changed my motherboard 2 days ago and my old one had the same settings
     
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    Why does your bios report 1680x1050? Does changing setting back to LVDS break your graphics?
     
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    Ill try it now
     
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    Overclocking means beans to me, it all matters what monitor you have. The M15X theoretically can't support LVDS to eDP conversion because of no iGPU, so you may have the rarest unit of all time on your hands, but like @Raidriar said, it's likely a dummy option, but who knows. I just want to get to the bottom of this mystery
     
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    And that setting I turned on, I don't think it affects anything
     
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    It's entirely possible that he got a prototype motherboard with eDP conversion, which is my theory, but this is a first for me
     
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    That cant be the case though, my old motherboard had the exact same settings and looks the exact same as this one I put in
     
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    Is the screen stretched at 1680x1050? Or does it fit perfectly? That's a 16:10 ratio which was never an option of the M15X
     
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    Looking at that Bios picture, that presents a lot of confusing info to me as it is suggesting that the M15X has a onboard eDP to LVDS converter, which is very interesting
    Where did you manage to get that bios?
     
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    Unlocked BIOS gives that option. To test if it does anything or not, switch back to LVDS and your gsync card shouldn’t work. If it does then it’s probably just a dummy setting
     
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    But wouldn't a Gsync GPU require eDP to display?
     
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    Under normal circumstance yes but there are other possibilities as to why it’s working. I missed this setting entirely when I had my 1070, I almost want to buy another just to test and see what happens
     
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    Changed to the Lvds setting and I was still able to get to output to the screen not sure what this means but it would be interesting if someone could test this with an edp only gpu
     
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    That person should be you ;)

    In all honesty I think it would fail but it’s worth a shot I think
     
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    Idk, if the 980M outputs to the display under "LVDS" when it needs eDP to function, wouldn't the logical conclusion be that OP has a eDP screen? I'm likely missing something, but this could be a big win for Pascal (1050 ti 50W TDP!)
     
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    And no the screen isn't stretched, you can force scaling below it
     
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    Yes, but is the entire screen lit up? That's what I was trying to ask, I'm assuming no because it's a 16:9 panel vs a 16:10 ratio
     
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    There is no edp port in the m15x, only lvds with option of wsxga+ or fhd panels. Fhd panel routinely overclock to 120hz, mine does this as well
     
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    I can guarantee you its an lvds screen, I changed my motherboard as I said and both the old and new one both used the same connector and had the same missing unsoldered edp connection. I looked into the mobo schematics to see if it was feasible to solder one but it turned out to not be worth the effort. The mobo schematics said that there was originally a connector but it was removed in an early prototype version. I think its entirely probable that this was done due to there being a built in encoder
     
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    The screen doesn't change when I use that setting, all the resolutions listed in it are 16:10 ones unless they are super low res
     
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    You said it was a 1080p panel I thought?
     
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    Dummy menu likely then, leftover from development. Not the first time that’s been found in a bios
     
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    Also if you remove the stock screws that came with the xbracket and use different ones it will drop your temps with the 980 massively. I was getting constant throttling or I would shoot towards 90 but after changing only the front two screws I hit full clocks and max at 88 in unigine. I also have my cpu at 28x28x28x27 @ 60 tdp 60 tdc. according to hwinfo my gpu draws a max of 97 watts using a vbios I modded. the core goes from 870-1130 and memory 2400-2500 with occasional drops to 1600
     
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    If I sit my laptop on a deodorant can too I hit like 77 max
     
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    Interesting, looks like my theory of the edp converter could be correct then. If this is true pascal should definitely work.
     
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    If anyone wants to loan me a pascal card I'm happy to test this
     
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    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Found this in the mobo schematics.
     
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    Just put this 980m in the m17x r4 - I only have the 60hz screen, but I can seem to get it to work in dedicated only mode with no optimus
     
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    The setting isn't working because the mobo doesn't have an eDP port.

    Pretty sure the card works normally because it's not a gsync card.
     
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    The M15X has inactive eDP port and apparently an eDP converter
     
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    Pretty sure it doesn't have either.
     
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    Suprisingly, it does.
     
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    dummy menu, doesn't do anything, as the resolution options and backlight control do nothing with the panel, I'm assuming neither does the connector type. tested m15x and m17x r2
     
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    Off topic but related: My system keeps shutting off on high load, temps are fine, I even modded a PCH heatsink cause I thought it was that. Is it most likely a power issue?
     
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    power or temp, could be either. could also be weak component on the motherboard. I had a 980M trigger shutdowns under load when it had a bad mosfet.
     
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