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    AMD 12.3 Release

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Mooneyd, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. Mooneyd

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    AMD Catalyst? Mobility Display Driver

    Anyone want to give them a whirl and let us know how they got on (BSOD, Vantage etc etc)? I would, but I'm in work ATM :D

    Also - have AMD stopped CAP for the version 12 series drivers? I havent seen any yet :eek:
     
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    Well I installed them yesterday and so far they seem to be running just fine (vantage scores and 3dmark scores are roughly the same as 12.2).

    I didn't get a blue screen this time when I installed them (thankfully), although it did say that the install completed with errors (missing an .inf).

    After reboot it came up fine and the driver levels are 12.3 as I'd expect. So the installation does appear to complete successfully and it is running...just a little wierdness when the install completed.

    I will state that I haven't had a chance to play much with them, hopefully a bit more today.

    *EDIT* Something odd...not sure if it's just on my system or even related to the drivers. But Sapphire Trixx no longer shows any details for overclocking besides the GPU memory (the rest is 0). Not a big deal as I wasn't using it, but not sure if it's a result of the 12.3 drivers or something else. Just thought I'd mention it to see if anyone else notices a problem.
     
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    Anyone tried it with MW3?
     
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    Well I downloaded it directly because I still have the custom 11.2 Catalyst that I downloaded months ago on Guru3D.

    It installed without a hitch on my M17x-R2 with 2 AMD 5870. No BSOD.

    I will try to play other games to see if there are flickering like with Skyrim (I no longer have the game installed...)
     
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    Every time I try an update from there I get this:
    [​IMG]
     
  7. SlickDude80

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    Nall, did you uninstall all amd software from within the installer or download manager first? (to get rid of your current install). You may need to run Driver Sweeper first to clean out any remnants of the old driver version

    And did you get the direct download from the link above? don't use the first link. Use the one that Juliant posted because its less problematic.

    I have 12.3 installed on my computer, but i needed to do it in this order because i could not uninstall the old driver. This was the first driver that required this much work for me as usually drivers just install over the previous version for me. I still did NOT get any bsods or problems, however, all my utilities like GPUz was showing the wrong version driver after successive sucessful installs

    - Uninstall all amd software from within the amd installer. Reboot
    - Run Driver Sweeper. click on AMD - Display and then click clean. Reboot
    - Install Dell Intel Graphics driver found on dell.com/support. Reboot
    - Install Dell AMD Drivers found on dell.com/support. Reboot
    - Install 12.3 WHQL. Reboot

    Everything works...including graphics switching, CCC, zero bsods.
     
  8. San Pedro

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    Should GPU-Z read this for driver version, atiumdag 8.960.0.0 / Win7 64 ?
     
  9. SlickDude80

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    It should read 8.951
     

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    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    I haven't had a BSOD yet, haven't really seen a performance increase yet. Maybe it's time to ditch this R2 for that M18xR2 with 680M SLI. :3
     
  11. bigtonyman

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    Ill download it tonight and install in the morning. Kinda tired atm and don't wanna screw something up. :p Thanks for the heads up on the update btw. I haven't upgraded the drivers in a while so I might as well now.
     
  12. mark_j

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    Installed right over 12.1 drivers. Everything works great. Update worked and verified via GPUz and CCC.

    Thanks for the post OP.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk
     
  13. San Pedro

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    Having a lot of problems getting the right driver installed.

    As of now I'm reading this as my driver version 8.851.2.0 (Catalyst 12.3) / Win7 64

    This is after uninstalling AMD drivers via control panel, then doing a driver sweep, installing compal driver, and then installing new driver.

    I notice when installing newer driver it was telling me that my driver version was already up to date.

    Don't know what to do, but try try again.

    Well, when I install the 12.3 drive with the 6990m enabled I get this error:
    The driver package did not preinstall because files that are referenced by the the INF file could not be found.

    The driver just doesn't install when I install with the Intel enabled.
     
  14. Mooneyd

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    I used the link I originally posted and these drivers are working a charm. No BSOD and my BF3 seems to be running much smoother (less lag in busy parts). In order to make sure its installed properly make sure you clean out all the old driver remnants (CCleaner & Driver Sweeper). Also give this thread a look to get a crisp picture;
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...ately-adjusting-m17x-r2s-rgb-led-via-ccc.html
    Some menus have been changed slightly but you should be able to figure it out after a bit of jiggery pokery
     
  15. Bagongolo

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    Installed the drivers from the direct link http://www2.ati.com/drivers/mobile/12-3_mobility_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc.exe over the Dell latest ones without driversweeper, after the installation got a BSOD, after the reboot I had a very low resolution (generic VGA drivers) and from the device manager both the 6970 and the Intel had no drivers installed; reinstalled the 12.3 from C:/AMD/support/12.3...../setup.exe and everything works fine: 12.3 installed, Intel graphic too, control panel ok, FN brightness key ok, switchable graphic too. My card is the 6970, hope it helps
     
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    Installed yesterday over 12.2 pre-release with no problems.

    Graphics seem more smooth, a bit les artifacting in STO, and Skyrim continues to have the ugly green-yellow background and flicker on the menus.

    Other than that, the driver seems good, no BSODs on install. I will try today with HDMI TV-Out video/audio and let you know how it goes.
     
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    No matter what I do, I keep getting the same error... Guess I will just stick to 12.1 until 12.4 comes out, or try some finagling when I have more time.
     
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    Hrm, I am excited to try to these. The last couple of drivers have been bad for me so I am still on 12.2 previews...

    Will do so tonight and let you all know.
     
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    Hey Douse,

    I'm also running the 12.2 previews and just re-installed 12.3 (after doing a system restore...long story, my secondary GPU fan failed and after several system shut downs due to heat I was blue-screening and had to restore from backup).

    Anyway, 12.3 installed just fine, no issues...gonna run some tests and make certain no problems arise.

    Will let you all know how it goes...the last time I tried I also got the .inf missing message, but not this time...so who knows??

    *UPDATE* Well initial test results are positive...not extrodinary...3dvantage saw an increase of about 100, and 3dmark11 saw an increase of about 20 or so. So obviously this can be attributed to any number of things besides the driver, so I'll say that initially it appears at least as good as the 12.2 preview drivers. I'll test out some games later to see if I can see any noticeable difference...somehow I doubt it. But at least I'm now on a general release level vs a preview driver.
     
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    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Okay just reformatted my R2 for RAID 0, didn't even need to install Dell CCC, no more BSOD...I hope.
     
  21. wonderpookie

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    Yea, I noticed this too, but for me it is a lil bit of a big deal, since I used Trixx to OC my 5870s to 800 and 1100, giving a noticeable improvement in a few games like BF3 :mad:

    Also, since 12.3 install, HWiNFO64 doesn't show any details for the second gfx card until I actually enter a game and it starts being used. Again, a lil annoying.

    Hmmm... I dunno.

    Is it OK to just do an install straight over the old drivers as some of you guys have been suggesting? I was always under the impression that it was best to always clear out the old drivers through safe mode, device manager uninstalls, with Driver Sweeper and CCleaner thrown in - ?
     
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    For me personally, I just do a straight install over the old drivers. I know a lot of folks recommend doing a full uninstall, driver sweeper and ccleaner and I'm sure it works well for a lot of people...I just had a bad experience doing that once and have stuck to the generic install over the top of the drivers thing ever since.

    Not saying my method is a preferred method over a clean uninstall/install, just saying thats what has worked best for me.

    So I guess for folks who still use Trixx...upgrading to 12.3 is not a good idea unless there is a fix/patch coming out.
     
  23. Buehlar

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    I installed 12.3 over the latest dell drivers.

    Every time I reboot my system my secondary GPU at idle the clock sticks @ 405MHz and Memory @ 1000MHz.

    If I run Furmark and exit it will revert back to 100MHz & 150Mhz idle.

    Any ideas what would cause this?
     

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    Hi Buehlar,

    It's very interesting that you mention this...as I had this problem with 12.3 initially where the secondary GPU would sit at max as well. Once I ran 3dvantage or 3dmark11 it would revert back to 100mhz & 150mhz idle.

    I had considered that it was the driver, but after it happened that one time I have not seen it do this again. That being said I did re-image my drive back to the 12.2 driver and then reinstalled the 12.3 and I haven't seen this happen since.

    So it seems to me that there are at least two issues with the 12.3 drivers and honestly, if I hadn't already upgraded I'd think twice about it.

    1)Trixx doesn't work...I imagine this will be fixed in a Trixx update?

    2)Secondary GPU sticking at max clocks. Again mine went back to normal once I ran 3dmark11 and hasn't "stuck" since...but I find this a very interesting side effect to the driver install.

    Would be curious if others have run into both of these issues as well...I was beginning to think it was my machine...now I'm thinking it's the drivers instead.
     
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    OMGoodness - I just noticed this now too! This would explain why that one card has a higher than normal idle temp!

    That, plus I can't seem to OC my cards with Trixx anymore.

    /facepalm

    What is it with AMD and their drivers? I think I'm just gonna fall back to 12.2 - I came to 12.3 from 12.1 as it was, but from now on, I think I'll practice that whole "if it aint broke, don't fix it" credo a bit more!

    EDIT:- before playing Tribes Ascend, second GPU was@405 and 1000... exited game... a few mins gone by... its now @0 and 0 :S - I DON'T LIKE IT! :(
     
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    Thanks for the update Greywolf.

    With the Trixx issue, I have come across this before and I think it was powerplay causing the issue? Not sure though.

    I will try tonight and post back.

    @wonderpookie, with your higher clocks, do you have a second monitor plugged in? This will increase one of the cards to the clocks that you have mentioned

    Hrrrrm I am unsure if I want to install the drivers now, why break something that is working well...

    I wonder if only us mobility users have these issues. Perhaps we don't get as much testing as the desktop cards?
     
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    Yeah can honestly say I haven't seen it stick since. I've been paranoid anyway because I just replaced my seconday GPU fan on Monday so have been keeping a close eye on it. Can't explain under what circumstances it sticks. Has anyone had it stick again AFTER it was stuck the first time?

    Also, I dont' have a second monitor or anything that would cause it to stick...and it hasn't after the initial install and then running 3dmark11. Since I had just replaced my secondary GPU fan due to it failing I about had a heart attack thinking my card was fried. So glad it isn't just me.

    Thanks for the tip on Trixx Douse..I don't use it currently so it hasn't been an issue, but I know some folks really need it.

    *UPDATE* Well it looks like on this last reboot it's stuck at max clocks again. I'm downgrading back to 12.2 preview to see if it resolves it completely. For those considering this upgrade, I'd say... DON'T DO IT (unless you want to test how well your secondary GPU fan works) and wait for 12.4?? So far the "official" drivers have been nothing but headaches.
     
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    I agree. I don't know what my second GPU is doing... sometimes it's clocks are at 405 and 1000 when it's idle, sometimes they read 0 and 0 at idle and the fan seems to shut off and the idle temp starts to creep upwards. Sometimes I can't even see any reports for the second GPU in HWiNFO64.

    Also - Trixx no longer OC's anything, and I NEED those extra clocks for smooth BF3 :p

    AND one other thing... RadeonPro OSD seems to have stopped working since 12.3 as well!

    I should've stayed with 12.1, but I'll give 12.2 a go.

    AMD sure do annoy with their drivers. Does stuff like this happen to the other guys too?


    Messing about with PowerPlay did nothing for Trixx. I even tried loadsa previous Trixx versions.

    I only have the one laptop display in operation.

    Maybe it is just the mobility guys who are made to suffer these weird driver problems. I still recall the many BSODs from previous drivers :mad:
     
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    Thanks for letting me know it wasn't just me guys! I'm on my way back to 12.2
    I've seen absolutely NO gains in performance from the update anyway
     
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    Agreed, I ended up re-imaging my drive back to 12.2 (versus trying to clean install 12.3 off), and all is well.

    Trixx still doesn't work for me at 12.2...so maybe it was broken it that level? I honestly haven't used it for a few months so quite possible.

    But my secondary GPU is back to normal, no longer maxing itself out for no reason or doing anything else odd.

    I'm starting to wonder now if it was the driver and not the secondary GPU fan that was causing the issues. My fan would shut off and the temps on the secondary GPU would skyrocket. Needless to say I couldn't risk it, so replaced the fan anyway...so I can't say for certain. I would recommend any who use this driver to keep an eye on their secondary GPU though as it definitely does some very strange things.
     
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    I'm back on 12.2 without any issues and according to Furmark it's actually 1 FPS faster than 12.3

    I'm thinking you're 100% correct cause I've noticed erratic behavior @ idle with both GPU fans on 12.3
    RPMs would drop to 0 then quickly back up and down ~2500 ~2000 ~ 3500.
    It's defiantly disruptive to the stability of the card's clock speeds.
     
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    I went back to 12.2 first... Trixx didn't work.

    So then went back to 12.1 and Trixx works again as well as OSD for RadeonPro although my second GPU still seems to be idling at clocks of 0Mhz and 0Mhz, something which it never did before I went to 12.3 from 12.1.

    A quick look over at the Guru3D forums and it seems that 12.3 made some registry changes that activate some sort of "power save mode" when running xfire cards. You need to change the relevant registry entries to switch it off and have your second GPU clocks back to their idle norm clocks.

    I find that change rather annoying and atm I cba to go through my registry. At least I can o/c again. I just hope the "power save mode" or w/e doesn't produce erratic results when gaming as loads on the GPUs vary.

    Honestly AMD, just leave things alone.
     
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    I am running 12.3 with no problems so far, after one day. Did a full uninstall / Ccleaner / Driver Sweeper install.
     
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    Great power save mode (sarcasm)...turns off the fan and puts the secondary clock up to maximum...once my card reach over 90 degrees and shut down I knew something was up. Guess I probably didn't need to replace my fan, oh well the new one works well enough.

    Thanks for the tip...this is ridiculous.

    *UPDATE* For those who are looking to re-enable Trixx on the 12.2 or 12.3 drivers, there is information here:

    http://www.sapphireforum.com/showthread.php?27620-Problem-with-7950-and-Trixx&p=235904#post235904

    on how to do it. I just performed the steps and it's now working for me.

    Just thought I'd pass it along.