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    AW17(2014) with a Eurocom 1070

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Rymesis, Apr 6, 2018.

  1. Rymesis

    Rymesis Notebook Consultant

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    I'm having a rough time at the moment. My 1070 is installed(And mostly functional).
    I have to use Section166 I believe it is for Optimus to kick over and allow use of the 1070 instead of the Intel graphics.

    My firestrike score seems pretty low at high 9000's to low 10,000's, and I finally managed to get GTA5 to run without a BSOD stating video_tdr_failure nvlddmkm.sys. I ended up swapping that to DX10.1 in the settings.

    Fallout 4 randomly crashed with an orange screen of death stating the same error about 20 minutes in.

    Driver is 391.35, running Windows 10 pro fully updated. 32GB HyperX Ram and a 4800mq CPU.
    Using Optimus because of my LVDS screen but at this point, if it would solve the issues I would buy a 120hz screen and go dedicated, however I don't have the vbios to do that.

    Edit: GTA5 runs at 28-34fps on ultra, which seems rather low considering how old it is..

    Edit 2: Firestrike results https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/25974428?
     
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    javers Notebook Guru

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    Hi Rymesis,

    Yes that graphics score on Firestrike is very low, should be at least 16k+ for a 1070. How are the temperatures of the card during the benchmark? Would be worth running something like GPU-Z in the background while running a benchmark, having a look at what temperatures you're reaching and also what limits the card is hitting (pwr, vrel etc).

    Javers
     
  3. Rymesis

    Rymesis Notebook Consultant

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    GPU-Z log: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MBNpm8h6B-orco3hq4eBdcsQp_MeMH8q91Q2V962Ebw

    Firestrike that the log was recorded from: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/15286156

    Max temp I've ever seen this GPU at was 62c, I'm using IC Diamond 7 thermal compound as well, by the way.

    GTA5 I got to run fairly reliably after deleting it's DirectX library and getting Steam to download a new one.

    Neverwinter Nights(2002 original) has had the game freeze and crash, then before I got to click the close program dialog it had given me Video_TDR_Failure for nvlkddm as well, not a particularly stressing game, other times it's played okay but with some heavy lags at times as if it was going to bluescreen.

    I'm using a modded .inf, this is running in Optimus mode and almost every 1070 string I've modified for it to use has resulted in it not kicking over to use the video card.
    I was using the first 1C60 string for a 1060 which had much the same results but lower performance. I've since switched to the 1070 Max-Q string but performance is still suffering and it's still giving me the Video_TDR_Failure errors as usual.
     
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    Well, I think I figured out what's happening. Past 1000mV either the drivers crash or the 1070 can't take it.
    For some reason, without overclocking I'm hitting about 1062mV to the card as the drivers crash. If I force 1050mV then it will orange screen of death after a very short time.

    Someone I contacted on another forum stated that their 1070 wouldn't go past 900mV stock when stress testing.
    Does anyone have any idea if the mV is handled via drivers or vbios?
     
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    vBIOS limited, no way to flash/change without a hardware SPI programmer. Best case scenario try to use MSI afterburner to reduce clock speeds to also reduce voltage. Really interested to know what your ASIC quality is (you can check with GPU-Z)
     
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    Rymesis Notebook Consultant

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    I thought MXM cards were capable of being flashed in the laptop? Or was that just the 900 and earlier series?



    Initially it was $800~ish, then $300 on heatsinks here and there, then $400 repair.

    And when downclocked it still wants to leap to 1050mV+ and crash. I have to lock it to a clock and voltage and that works about as well as you’d expect.(last firestrike score was high 7000’s)

    Honestly, I feel rather lied to about the 1070 and who I purchased it from that stated it would work fine.
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    How long have you had the card. Just claim it defective and ask for a FULL REFUND with prepaid label.

    Or else just concact your bank if Eurocom doesn't want to play nice.

    How did you pay 400$ in repair? What did Eurocom do?



    You cannot flash the MXM pascal with software, you must use a hardware programmer to write a new BIOS with your desired modifications direclty to the card's vbios chip.

    The Eurocom 1070 is a Gecube 1070 which has some problems with high power draw, it's limited to 90w on purpose because over 90w they have a much higher chance to blow up.
     
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    starting with pascal you need an SPI programmer to flash your vBIOS. only 900 series and earlier can use nvflash.

    He supposedly "crushed his core" (according to eurocom) which I call ******** on because they have no way to verify that without an x-ray scan so they charged him $400 to replace the "crushed core"
     
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    I'd just bank chargeback at this point tbh.
     
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    Get your money back. It's BS selling a card for that price and then charging that much for repair.

    Not to mention, it still doesn't work properly and barely performs 1060 level.

    This is why I went MSI 1060 , I didn't trust those 1070 cards.
     
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    I wish people would stop calling it the "Eurocom 1070"

    Its literally a Gecube 1070 they've done nothing special to it.
     
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