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    Accurately "Adjusting" M17x-R2's RGB LED via CCC

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Megacharge, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. Megacharge

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    I came up with a really nice looking Catalyst Control Center adjustment for the M17x-R2's RGB LED screen and had posted it in another thread. That thread is not frequented much anymore, and I thought seeing as this was so useful to others, I would make a thread specifically for it, so here it goes.

    Open the Catalyst Control Center, in the top left hand corner click on Graphics and go to desktop properties and click the color tab. Set Gamma to 0.85 (all channels) and hit apply, then click graphics again on the top left and go to desktops and displays. Right click on the little laptop icon at the bottom left and select configure, then go to the color tab (or Avivo tab depending on what driver you are using) and set Hue to -5 and Saturation to 85 and hit apply.

    You now have a nicely configured and natural looking RGB LED screen!
     
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    Did this on my WUXGA and it looks great thanks ^-^
     
  3. Photolysis

    Photolysis Notebook Consultant

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    Tried this using the Nvidia control panel (Gamma 0.85, Hue +355, Vibrance 45%) and it looks very nice. Thanks.
     
  4. steviejones133

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    Thanks for the heads up on the RGB LED configuration...looks even more gorgeous now....repped.
     
  5. Megacharge

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    Thank you sir.
     
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    Any info for the 1980x1200 CCFL Please ?
     
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    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

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    it works the same just need diferent tweaking
     
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    Much appreciated, repped :)
     
  9. flynnaz

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    Thank you, Rep+
     
  10. Megacharge

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    Edited post.
     
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    +rep as well
    Much better on my eyes since it's not so bright/supersaturated.
     
  12. steviejones133

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    One thiing i have noticed and i dont know if its just me, but when i run vantage, at the start whils its loading the shaders etc for the first test (jane nash), i get ALOT of flickering colour changes whereas i didnt get these before.....maybe something to do with windows basic colour scheme but has anyone else had this with Crylo's settings?

    PS. the rest of the bench runs fine with no visual flickering etc, its just at the start, kinda like the bench doesnt like the new visual settings and the colours flicker quite a fair bit....
     
  13. Corthalis

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    No flickering here.
     
  14. steviejones133

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    Just tried resetting to defaults and yep, flickering gone.....maybe something to do with CCC version/drivers? - im using dell 8.763/vbios.....its only when jane nash test is loading up...not during anything else....
     
  15. Megacharge

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    Sounds like a driver issue, I would switch to a new one.
     
  16. steviejones133

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    Im on Dells latest driver LOL....anyone else with 5870's and 8.763 have this problem i wonder?
     
  17. unreal25

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    I am also on Dell's latest driver with 5870s and get flickering in WoW when I apply this. I'm OK with the default ICC profile, I'd only like to change brightness on Reds.
     
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    Think i may try windows calibration tool instead - can do without the flickering.....and although crylo's tips are great, and look really good on my desktop, real world performance takes a hit (for me anyhow) using this config.....cant see how its a driver issue as its stock....
     
  19. unreal25

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    I tired Windows Calibration tool... it barely changed anything. The CCC tweaking does remove red bleed, but it also reduces saturation of all other colors quite a bit. I actually liked the default profile better as the colors seemed more lively.
     
  20. Megacharge

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    That's pretty weird because I don't see how adjusting some colors in the control panel should have any effect on gaming what so ever. It doesn't make any sense, this should not cause flickering at all, it definitely doesn't on my M17x. Sounds to me like it's a driver issue. The color profiles are not the main issue here, if things are as you guys say they are, the issue is either a corrupted driver install or just a flaw in Dell's driver.

    Either way, best thing to do is uninstall your drivers and make sure the computer is 100% clean with driver sweeper or an equivalent driver cleaner, then try it again. If the problem persists, then you should contact Dell and explain this issue to them so they can fix it in their next driver iteration as it's unacceptable to have a driver that can't have it's options used without issue.
     
  21. calingasan

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    Yeah really weird. I guess they already have the flickering issue even before the calibration. It just made it more noticeable with the settings applied. Lol

    Did this on mine aswell without any problems
    Cheers dude
     
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    I'm personally using Windows calibrating tool. I just lower the first option all the way down so the dark dots blended into background color as instruction. And for me it works great.
     
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    Another thing to keep in mind is that there are two versions of the RGB LED display. The older version had worse color calibration out of the box with overblown reds versus the recent one (J2CY) that still suffers from oversaturated reds but not nearly as much. Since receiving the new display version, I've not bothered calibrating it since it looks great out of the box.
     
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    Thanks for clarifying. I was wondering why so many people complained about excessive red and I wasn't seeing it.
     
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    How d'ya tell which one is which ?
     
  26. calingasan

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    Its probably their keyboard led lights reflecting on the screen. Lol
     
  27. unreal25

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    I don't have any flickering with default profile. Only if I changed the default settings. And the drivers were installed right on the fresh Windows install (I recently switch to an SSD). VBIOS is also updated to the latest one.

    The hardware ID in Device managed on my monitor shows SEC5443. Is that the "old" version?
     
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    Same as mine - but dont know if thats the old or new one - would be good to know....

    I just know that this "flickering" is only noticeable (to me anyway) when i run vantage...right at the start when shaders are loading on "jane nash" test....flickers like mad with CCC settings changed....revert back to default and its gone....hence i have adjusted gamma etc via windows calibration tool and looks good.....like SillyHoney, i have set the gamma to quite low - not all the way down and have reduced the red and blue by a tiny amount....looks perfect to me but it is subjective according to your own eyes i guess....
     
  29. irkan

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    mine is 1920x1200 RGBLED and i tried the configuration in the first post, the colors seemed a little bit washed out, guess i got used to "over-colors", as I see the real world colors "washed out" as well, Lol
    thanx for the tips though
    cheers
     
  30. Megacharge

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    Better contact Dell and ask them about this.

    The calibration itself is fine, it's just you two so far having this problem, you guys should contact Dell and ask them whats up.
     
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    I have adjusted using windows calibration which altered the gamma levels and colour - same as what CCC does i guess.....the windows tool works fine, no flickering whatsoever....haent retried your settings yet Crylo but I will give 'em another go....
     
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    Just tried the CCC settings again.....flickering still there - im not using this one.....
     
  33. BatBoy

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    Could be you and Unreal are on a different panel (as Joker mentioned). Could be Crylo is on a different driver than the 8.763 - multiple possibilities here.

    Didn't notice but Unreal is seeing the flickering only in the same app as you? (Vantage - Nash loading screen)
     
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    Download a program called Astra32 and it will tell you all your hardware info including the proper display id. SEC5443 is just generic for Samsung. The flickering people are seeing is a known problem with older Catalyst drivers. Whenever the gamma is altered, flickering results in some games. People with desktop systems noticed the same issues, so it has nothing to do with the display panel. I'd suggest those of you that want to try Crylo's settings switch to the latest Catalyst 10.11 set from AMD.
     
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    Cheers , i have ran Astra32 and shows i have the J2YC screen (which im happy about now) but cant understand why i get these flickerings with Crylo's settings.....i can adjust gamma within windows calibration tool and it is fine....if i use CCC to change gamma, it flickers...

    I am running the latest Dell drivers and vbios....maybe its a bad driver install....everything else runs fine, cant see it being a bad vbios flash otherwise i would have had other issues with that....

    Should i try to reinstall 8.763 and CCC via dell or just go for 10.11 with profiles? - if i try AMD's drivers, do i have to get back to VGA drivers first to avoid BSOD's with the vbios?

    Could it also be anything to do with vantage? - corrupted installation or something? - im puzzled why others dont have flickering but unreal and i do....
     
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    I said in the post you quoted what the problem is and what you need to do. Download Catalyst 10.11 and see if the flickering goes away. It's a known driver issue with older versions.
     
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    Thanks Joker, I'll try when I get home. I didn't realize we can use AMD Catalyst drivers now (I know that some time ago you or someone suggested some kind of .inf fix).

    I actually didn't see the flickering in Vantage, only in World of Warcraft. (Which I know, due to the old engine, isn't the most optimal app to test the drivers anyway...). Basically the only thing I wanted to change was to reduce the brightness on Red colors, as I love the saturation and contrast as its by default. But even when I tried in CCC, it reduced the Red level overall and again didn't look that good. Anyway, we'll see how it will look like with AMD's Catalyst 10.11.
     
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    My screen in Astra32 shows as: Seiko Epson K1NFP£170CT, manufactured Jan 2009 (The weird character is something similar to £ but I don't feel like searching through all the ASCII symbols to find it). I should also add that the same program recognizes my CPU as Intel Core i3 Mobile 620:

    [​IMG]

    However, I'm still working on downloading the latest drivers... AMDs amazing download tool doesn't seem to work.
     
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    Wash out on stock config is exactly the reason I adjusted Windows calibrating. After done the display looks warmer, more colorful yet without being oversaturated.
     
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    You have the older display. The newer one's were manufactured in Jan 2010. Here's mine:

    [​IMG]
     
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    OK I uninstaled the old Dell drivers through ATI/AMD Catalyst tool, then restarted then installed 10.11 as suggested. And whoa..... the reds aren't bleeding that much any more! :eek: Also the flickering is gone.

    Further, I tried Crylo's suggestion. I think with that setup colors do look more realistic, but like the other poster, I got used to surrealistic super-saturated RGB LED colors. :) So I used his numbers, except for saturation - which I only lowered to 95 and hue which I lowered to -2. With -5 I noticed this smiley :) looks a little greenish.

    It's not a perfect, but the reds are a bit less pronounced, while all the other colors are almost as (over)enhanced as before. Just for my taste. :)

    Thanks everyone!
     
  42. steviejones133

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    I also have installed the latest AMD 10.11 drivers etc and they seem to be working fine.

    Regarding the calibration issue i was experiencing with Crylo's settings - its gone.....no flickering at all and im just left with a beautiful looking display.

    Seems like a driver issue afterall with the Dell 8.763 i had installed.

    Thanks again to Crylo for his post and great info (i much prefer his settings to that of before....more natural)
     
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    I figured it was an issue with Dell's drivers, there always seems to be some issue with them. I'm glad you guys got your problem fixed.
     
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    Yeah...after what you said , i wanted to try alternative drivers, hence installing the 10.11's....im glad it fixed the issue i was having and would recommend anyone who experiences similar to do the same. Thanks again for the CCC profile for the RGBLED. Its great. :D
     
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    My display is J2CY. Great! +rep for Joker :D
     
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    sorta off topic but does anyone know a good number to calibrate the m15x 1080p screen??? The screen is very good imo, but I want to make it better
     
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    No idea, but you could try the settings on the first post, and adjust them as you see fit.
     
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    Jeeee +rep !!!

    Thanks a lot !
     
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    Crylo what video drivers are you using currently? Since i have the latest vbios installed, is it recommended to uninstall Dell's display drivers and install AMDs new Catalyst control center 70.1 MB, Revision 10.11 ???
     
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    That's what I did. The flickering in games due to different color profile went completely away and with that 10.11 driver, red colors got toned down a little bit (using the default color profile). I started from Crylo's settings, then tried changing things and see what looks best. It's not *perfect* right now, the reds are still little too bright, but a bit better than default.
     
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