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    Alienware 17 2013 with eurocom 1070 90w

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by chokolademan, May 7, 2019.

  1. chokolademan

    chokolademan Notebook Enthusiast

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    A while ago I tried a 1070 with my trusted Alien, but unfortunately the card was broken.
    Now I'm ready for a second try with a Eurocom version.
    The laptop was prepared the first time, bios/heatpipes/adapter/windows setup and all that stuff.
    But...
    I heard the Eurocoms are very fragile. And tend to overheat/blow up if not taken care of.
    And read here that the 1070 Eurocoms have the wrong bios, which are made for 120w or 150w.
    Where can I find a bios with a 90w version for a Eurocom? And maybe other tips for this 1070?
    Many thanks!
     
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    Reciever D! For Dragon!

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    Send it back and get literally anything else
     
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    Mastermind5200 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Basically above. You can find MSI's for extremely cheap, or Zotacs or the off-brand Dell's for around the $500 mark. Unless you got it for significantly less, I would send it back asap.
     
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    Arrrrbol Notebook Deity

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    The 90W vBIOS will only help for a while, the card will still fail after a few months. Its just a poorly designed and built card with an inadequate VRM. It is originally manufactured by a Chinese company called GeCube. They apparently fixed the issues of that 1070 with a new one which has a stronger VRM and 150W TDP, but I wouldn't risk getting one of those until someone on here has properly stress tested it. I may get hold of one and properly torture it to see if its any good, but for now the MSI 1070 is the strongest and most reliable. They can take a lot of power without complaining. If you want a cheap alternative, try an MSI 1060 and TDP mod it.
     
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    chokolademan Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ahh ok, I think it's difficult for me to send it back. It was second hand purchase.
    Most other brands are here difficult to come by, or I have to import it with a heavy tax on it.
    So I think I give it a go :)
    After a google fu, I saw the vrm is the part which regulates voltage and such. How can I protect the VRM more? Does it overheat or, when put on more gpu load, it overloads?
    Can I like use throttlestop to regulate the voltage myself?
    And how can I found out if the bios is really the 90w or the wrong 120/150w? Where could I find the 90W bios?
    Sorry for so many questions, but many thanks for the help!
     
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    If the vrms are of poor quality then it's a matter of dirty power being delivered and not so much just how much.
     
  7. chokolademan

    chokolademan Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, today got the time to work on the laptop. And it works first time booting!
    I allready had it prepared earlier in the year, bios, new heatpipes, etc.
    So how can I check if it really has the 90w limit? I got several diagnostic tools, but they don't show a watt limit from the videocard. Which tool can do this?
    I know I can flashbios it to go higher, but I want to protect this card from going over the limit and keep it alive.
    I'll let you know how the card will run in the long term, I'm surprised I can give this laptop such a boost :)
     
  8. M18x-oldie

    M18x-oldie Notebook Evangelist

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    You could stress test the GPU and use GPUz or hwinfo to check the total wattage pull of it.
     
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    so everything good with the eurocom card?
     
  10. chokolademan

    chokolademan Notebook Enthusiast

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    It still works :)
    Videogames work very nice. It has an upgraded heatpipe, the temperature stay around 55 c while gaming. So no chance of overheating I think.
    I'm not sure yet about the voltage. HwInfo said for example it used like 69 watt as the highest usage with an hour of gaming. That is way below 90 watt. I hope it won't blow up because of 'dirty' power.
    Is there a way to 100% test if I have the 90w bios?
    And with an Unigine Heaven test, it scored like 3600.
    The performance is really nice, but I don't think the 3600 score is correct, because when comparing other scores from desktop 1070 gtx, they get around 2600 - 3400. And the Eurocom is supposed to be a crippled 1070.
    Either way, I'm happy :) It outperforms the 780m by a lot.
     
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    javers Notebook Guru

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    If you dump a copy of your vbios with gpu-z you should be able to open it with Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker and see the max TDP limit.

    Javers