Alienware 17 R5 GTX 1070 MXM 3.1B

I'm impressed.

 

Ok guys!

I've been working (after a good GOW4 time) on an improved Cooper Heatsink based on the Zotac 1070 Heatsink for the AW 1070 and I will be using 5 Heatpipes just like the one that @loafer987 showed me...





I will be printing the design tomorrow on Plastic 3D and if it fits I will mill it on pure cooper, if not I will continue making some changes on it.

 

Keep up the good work.

 

You should design it so one of the heapipes covers the mosfet section. I believe this is one major weak point in the aw 17 heatsink. If you look at the pic of an eurocom tornado f5 (think that's what my card comes from) it has a heatpipe right over the power components of the card.

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Thanks for remember it, will! I just skipped by mistake!

 

wow, keep us updated on that all copper heatsink, impressive!

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Hey Strikter1234,

An idea that I had when thinking of a new cooling/heatsink solution for our A17-R1, was to create some sort of double 7mm rack and place it in the DVD tray bay. There is space, I made the calculations and they do fit if both drives are no more that 7mm each. For that you'll have to use the inner parts of a rack like this (or to create one your self):

https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Drive-Trayless-Mobile-Backplane/dp/B001CYZC38

Then once you place the rack in place and securely mounted, you'll have to find the proper cables adaptes to connect to the sata drivers. I made a quick search and wasn't that clear which adaptes/cables you would need for that. I guess that finding the proper adapters/cables could be an issue so again maybe hard modding your self would be better.

BUT doing so will leave you BIG empty SPACE in the SATA Disk 0 to place a big fan to cool the "north" part of your MXM Zotac M1070 or extra copper pipes going around in some sort of circles

 

Thanks for the info!

I like the Idea of using the extra space in the HDD 0 with a fan like this one:
https://www.coolerguys.com/products/dynatron-80x15mm-blower-fan-with-pwm-function-db128015bu-pwmg

I have 1TB MSata HDD installed and another one of 2TB HDD on the Slot #2, so I can use that space...

I need to know If I'm going to mod the HDD Caddy or design a new one... What do you think?

 

Just an idea. What I would do is use the heatsink from the zotac box for measurement references to build your heatsink. Then adjust it to fit the aw 17 chassis. That way you get the best coverage that is designed for the card. I believe the zotac heatsink has a lip near the mosfets to bring the metal closer to them so you don't have to use 5mm or thicker pads to transfer the heat from them. Honestly the gpu and memory on these cards runs very cool. The stability issues I have had have been from the power components. I would focus more attention on them if I was going to all this trouble.

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is there any picture of the zotac heatsink/cooling available?

 

That is what I did, using the Zotac heatsink as base and making the space for the heatpipes... I just have the 3d model but I need to add the extra tab for the Mosfets

 

Steam VR Test:

http://imgur.com/s6ECYXY

 

The part I have circled is what im referring to.

 

This is what I have so far...

 

I have the 3d printed design:
(I will do some mods, the blue area is going to be modified)

 

It is done....

I just need to sent it to milled it.

What do you think?

 

Why keep the ribbing/corrugation on the topside? I can't see anything but downsides (other than a small amount of weight but pffft to that) vs a solid block the same height: lower heat capacity of the heatsink, it'll need to be milled (adding cost) from the same solid block (i.e. no saving), attaching a heatpipe if it is needed down the road will have worse thermal transfer due to a reduced contact surface area, ...

 

Pretty simple. You get a larger surface for enhanced external cooling. You can use an proper notebook cooler to increase the cooling capacity

 

As @Papusan said, the top is designed to allow air flow from the fan located in the hdd0 slot.

I hope to have a good cooling this way...

 

OK didn't know there was directed airflow fair enough. My comment was based on my rough calcs of the extra surface are adding like 4-5W of heat loss - but that's in static air. So long as the heat is going out of the case (and the extra work doesn't add to the milling cost) it's all good.

 

I have check it what @bennyg told me, and my friend Julio helped me to measure the card, so the the design can include the full part in the back to improve cooling...

 

man im looking forward to the end result

 

Please let me know the cost. I would be interested in purchasing one as well depending on cost of course.

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I have contacted several companies that works with cooper in my city in order to have a quote, I will milled it and if it just fit right I can share with you the file so you can milled it on your city, and of course I can share the price maybe I can milled it in here and can ship it.

 

Look this.

The Tornado F5 has an standard 1080 desktop mxm no power connector?

 

@Striker1234 , MSI has multi GPU versions of the Pascal card, So are other manufacturers they can adjust the TDP per their liking, no more MXM3.0 that's why, the 1080 without power connector does the job well though from Mr. Fox's review (24K FS GPU as expected from a 1080 GPU) of the F5 (the F5 old version without 7700K one It can't fit this 1080 LOL, They need to cut that plastic chassis afaik), Look at the MSI GT73VR, GT83VR Gentech videos you'll know how many are there, Plus the famous tabbed MXM 1070N GPU which Loafer modded into his AW Chassis, Plus there's also the same 1070N with SLI connector again, Forget those 1080's they all have different core placements and dimensions & very expensive.

The best GPUs so far in the perspective of 3.0b are Quadro P5000, Zotac 1070 & the more modding required 1070N from MSI.

 

Look what i find:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GT73VR-...955620?hash=item360ec3eea4:g:Z2UAAOSw6DtYUzMt

 

Looks like a low profile card, but it is not!, is because it has extra tabs on each side...

Other thing, it still having the damn power connector

Thanks for sharing!

 

Power connector is a not big problem, look for this:
http://alienware-forum.de/index.php/Thread/8042-AW17-R1-3D-120Hz-GTX-980-N16E-GXX/

 

I've seen this, but this involves to have the computer connect all the time to power.

I think this can work, but a lot of mod is required.

 

Does anyone know who Zotac's supplier is? If so perhaps we can bypass Zotac and contact them directly

 

Already tried that. The best they can do is sell the box without CPU and RAM, for around 1000 iirc.

 

Still pretty steep but good to know, who is the supplier by the way?

 

Unknown and they would not disclose.

 

They can't make things easy for us can they lol.

What if we merely needed a replacement card to perform out of warranty repairs like say replacing a card damaged by overclocking or what a repair shop might do

 

www.pcpartner.com/en/index.php?m=brands
I don't think they can do a custom order for us, a shot might be worth. Also the news was GeCube is producing the usual 1070 MXM3.1b, Still no solid proof of existence of that GPU, might be more clear once we kick into Q2-3 2017.

 

Thanks does anyone know any design goals of the GeCube 1070 MXM3.1b? I think we all want to avoid a unit with an added power connector. Does anyone know if PcPartner has been contacted for standalone Pascal MXM orders?

 

Just to let you know, I have contacted Zotac, I told them I broke by mistake the Zotac Mini PC graphics card...
*I have told them that I will send the unit without the graphics card.

They sent me an RMA so I will be returning the box next week, they will charge me 900USD to have it fixed.

And because I will not use that anymore...
Is anyone interesting in getting the Zotac computer for that price once I get it back?

Please let me know to reserve it...

Thanks!

 

Expect a PM

 

I have a question, would the Zotac Zbox still work with an older MXM module? Once I get my hands on one of these buggers, I'm planning to switch the graphics cards in my Alien and the Zbox since my dad wants a mini PC to serve as a media server, and I want the graphics card out of the stupid thing. Would the Zbox still work with a GTX 860M in it or no? I don't want the Zbox to be useless once I cannibalize its graphics card because it'll be hard for me to find someone to sell it to if that happens.

 

I believe Striker1234 said that it will not display anying without the factory card installed most likely due to vendor lockout in the bios which is absurdly Anti-Consumer

 

Well crap. Is there any way to get the card by itself then? I don't want to pay for the Zbox and then not be able to put the mini PC to use after I pull its graphics card out of it.

 

No sadly Zotac won't even send you a new card if your original breaks or gets lost instead you have to ship the whole unit to them so they can install a new card for $900 which is what Striker1234 did and he is selling the whole thing for that cost as seen below

 

Looks like I'll just wait for the price to go down then. Either that, or I'll get an MSI GTX 1060 MXM module off of ebay. I did however notice that a company called Aetina sells standard MXM 3.1 B form factor MXM 1050TIs, 1060s, 1070s, and 1080s. Unfortunately the 1070 and 1080 from them both have an extra power connector on the side, but I do remember someone installing a desktop 980 in their Alien by pulling out one of the primary hard drives so it would fit due to the extra height (but it was as wide as a standard MXM card), then routing power from a fan into the card's power connector with some cable I have never seen before. Do you know where I can get such a cable? Getting that plus an Aetina 1070 MXM card sounds cheaper than getting a Zotac Zbox.

This is the link to the scenario I mentioned: http://alienware-forum.de/index.php/Thread/8042-AW17-R1-3D-120Hz-GTX-980-N16E-GXX/

 

I reached out to Aetina awhile back and they were asking for $900 for the Gtx 1070 IIRC and their version is longer than the MXM 3B standard

 

Aetina 1080? Whered you see that?

 

^I was also wondering about that but if the non standard 1070 is $900 I don't even want to know about the 1080 lol

 

That is correct, you will just end with a mini pc as a paperweight...

 

If anyone wants to Mini PC Zotac FULLY working for 900USD is all yours!

I'm not earning anything on this, since I already have the 1070 on my Alienware, maybe someone wants to save 300USD

Thanks!