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    Alienware M17x R4 Nvidea GTX 1070 M upgrade (service?)

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Seraiel, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. Seraiel

    Seraiel Notebook Consultant

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  2. Danishblunt

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    You can't. The best card that will work in your system is the GTX 980M. Pascal requires either an eDP to LVDS translater or eDP input, which you both don't have.

    EDIT: Nvm, you have the R4 and not the R3 as on Eurocom page. I don't know why Eurocom has put the R3 as the R4. Provided you have the 120HZ monitor you can upgrade to 1070, but you might want to look a bit in the forums, since there are some issues with the upgrade to the 1070s.
     
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  3. Rymesis

    Rymesis Notebook Consultant

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    Any particular reason why you want an install service?
    It's not very difficult at all to disassemble, install, and reassemble these laptops, with a Philips screwdriver and a old credit card you can fully disassemble these laptops
     
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    You have no idea how annoyingly hard and frustrating upgrades can be. Many have driver issues, crashing, bluescreen, needed heatsink modding, EC updates, vBios modding, losing control of backlight control etc.
     
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    Rymesis Notebook Consultant

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    The only issues out of those that I have not personally had was heatsink modding and vbios modding.
    I refit an 860M into a M17x (Memory is failing me at the moment), I remember how much of a pain it was, especially to get the audio working again.

    Is it a pain? Yes, but my question was more "Is there a particular reason?".
    Maybe I'm in the wrong here, so I'll just step out.

    To Seraiel, Best of luck with the 1070! I hope everything works out for you!
     
  6. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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  7. Seraiel

    Seraiel Notebook Consultant

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    I thank for the tip you.
     
  8. Danishblunt

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    You need to buy new screen as well, sinceyou have LVDS 60hz screen. You need 120hz eDP for pascal to work.
     
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  9. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    this depends actually now.

    We have some cards that will work with LVDS and pascal using Optimus, and some that will ONLY so far work with Optimus and LVDS panels and not dedicated mode yet, and then we have some that work both, but no legacy option with ANY pascal.
    You always need something to boot, the thing is, most people I imagine would triple check what model laptop and panel you have before selling you whatever. I do this as a practice and I know a few others too. We essentially have no choice but to do this.
     
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  10. Danishblunt

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    I might be wrong here, but it seems that Alienware is different here.
    My clevo P157 has a PS8625 converter inside it, which translates eDP to LVDS, this neat chip makes it so that pascal is plug and play for me, since the signal from the card is eDP to begin with.

    However, I have not seen a single optimus Alienware running pascal and all guides require an eDP 120HZ monitor, this leads me to the assumption that Alienware does indeed lack the converter which means that if you don't have your screen connected to your eDP port, it will want a direct LVDS signal, which pascal does not support, hence upgrading even on an optimus based Alienware would be impossible and the upgrade on the screen mandetory.

    Also, all pascal cards support eDP, some have issues with the eDP port and will not show a picture once you install drivers, which is caused by a vBios related problem, not an actual hardware problem, I know the issue you're talking about, but the card itself isn't the problem in those cases, it's the vBios.

    Eurocom seems to have the vBios that fixes those issues, since I've seen them fix the "eDP port issue" a couple of times with a vBios.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/p375sm-and-gtx1070.810156/page-2#post-10622924
     
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  11. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Well there are ways.

    Alienware has the eDP to LVDS built into the HD intel Graphics with Optimus tech.
    In dedicated mode, you lose that, and thus would require the eDP cable and Panel.
    Now we have not finished a vbios for the EURO1070 yet to support dedicated mode perfectly yet
    We have made it run with Optimus.

    The confusion might be because we have 1060 and also MSI1070N that work with eDP perfectly.
    The 1060 can go both ways, that's been done.
     
  12. ares6

    ares6 Notebook Geek

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    Hello, I have a mx17xr4 with a 980m gtx and I'm thinking about changing to a 1070 the change would be just as easy as in its day the 680m by 980m
    Thank you