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    Alienware R3 vs R2 5870 or 6870

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by aXaki, Oct 5, 2011.

  1. aXaki

    aXaki Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, im about to buy an alienware both same specs
    one of them is R2 and the other is R3
    which GPU should i get 5870 or 6870 for gaming :D ?
    which is faster ?
    because i heard a lot of people saying that the 5870 is faster than the 6870
    so i need your advice
    plz help :confused:
     
  2. kenny27

    kenny27 Notebook Deity

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    The 5870 is faster but not by much and a small overclock on the 6870 will bring it up to the same speed.
    I think you have to base your decision of other aspects because I doubt that you will notice the difference
     
  3. Megatony73

    Megatony73 Notebook Consultant

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    I have my dual 5870s and love them...that being said, there is something to say for not having to deal with the headache that crossfire can be sometimes.

    Often I have to wait for the application profiles to come out before a game will really take advantage of my crossfire cards (for instance, with my new game "Rage"). Other times (like with Gothic 4) Crossfire support never happens or it supports it but doesnt seem to make a difference (like with Mass Effect--although this happens the least often).

    But then again, I am not really much for OC'ing my cards either. Everytime I try I never seem to have the same luck as others do.

    Any chance you could spring the extra $$$ for the 6990m? I think would put the debate to rest wouldnt it? Then it would be faster either way and you wouldnt need to worry about the crossfire issues.

    On a side note though, I dont want to give a bad impression of crossfire. For the most part it works really well. Just sometimes you have to wait for the driver/application profiles
     
  4. aldam

    aldam Notebook Evangelist

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    it depends on display res.
    If R2 has WXGA+ it'll be my choice.
     
  5. zoolian982

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    If you have the money to spare, the R2 would have more upgradability. Dual 6970/6990's if your crazy enough.
     
  6. aXaki

    aXaki Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks for the quick response guys ^^
    my budget is about 1200$ so im gonna pick one from outlet
    i hope i can find the 6990 for that price :p

    and i heared some stuff about the screens the RGB is the best out there right ?
    whats the worest so i can avoid 'em when buying ?
     
  7. zoolian982

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    any resolution that isnt 1920x1080(R3)/1920x1200(R2) are bad,
     
  8. PsiPr0

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    R2 with 6970 Xfire plz. lol!
     
  9. aXaki

    aXaki Notebook Enthusiast

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    yeah so i think ima get the R3 with the 6970 this should be much better than the 5870 ? or almost the same :) ?
     
  10. zoolian982

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    R2 man, and xfire it up.
     
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    Bakkasan Notebook Consultant

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    Bakkasan Notebook Consultant

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    weird double post!
     
  13. mikeypinero

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    Ati 5870m works to 700/1000, amd ati 6870m works to 675/1000, the diference es ridiculos
    It's the same performance
     
  14. kenny27

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    A 6970 is a fair bit faster then a 5870, but not faster then crossfire 5870
     
  15. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    Crossfire 5870's(two slightly underclocked desktop 5770's) is the equivalent to a slightly underclocked desktop 5870(when both cards are utilized), and a 6970m is the equivalent to a 6850. The dual 5870's are faster when both are utilized, 6970m is faster 1v1. But if you OC to 850/1200 you will get full 5770/5870 desktop performance. Depending on if both or one card is being used. You can also upgrade to dual 6970's/6990's which will beat the pants off any R3 and is almost equivalent to an M18x - sandy bridge and macro keys. R2 is the better buy by far. Also a desktop 5870 is comparable to a desktop 6970.
     
  16. aXaki

    aXaki Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks Mkelliny :D

    i heared the none 1080 or 1200 screens are very bad is it really that bad :eek: ?

    now i have more stupid choices again
    1. Crossfire 5870 but with 1600x900 resolution
    2. 6870 with 1920x1080
    3. 5870 with 1920x1200 LED RGB
     
  17. SlickDude80

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    i've heard many complaints from other posters here about the 1600x900 screen quality. there's bleeding around the edges and someone complained yesterday about faint vertical lines. I'd avoid this screen
     
  18. Mechanized Menace

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    Option 3 a second 5870 is like $200 bucks or so now. RGB LED FTW!
     
  19. aldam

    aldam Notebook Evangelist

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    The first is WXGA+ 1440x900
    It's quite good display. Much better than 1600x900 from R3

    If you are looking for max performance and don't plan to do any upgrades in future is the best option.
    M17xr2 WXGA+ CF is the fastest 17" laptop now.
    Of course you can mod R2 with 6970/6990 but with standard configuration The first option is the fastest.


    Look at this. I made this tests.

    BFBC2 mp Valparaiso 32 players
    All on and high + AFx4 AAx4.

    Code:
    M17xR2 CF WXGA+  (gpu drivers 1 year old !!!)
    
    Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
      3605,     44414,  59, 116, 81.168
    
    Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
      4121,     57081,  59, 109, 72.196
    
    Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
      3287,     43119,  50, 129, 76.231
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    M17x R3 6990m FHD (latest driver from dell website)
    
    Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
      4079,     60000,  36,  81, 67.983
    
    Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
      4093,     60000,  36, 145, 68.217
    
    
    Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
      2125,     32229,  56,  82, 65.934