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    Alienware facial recognition

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Cploof88, Feb 27, 2012.

  1. Cploof88

    Cploof88 Notebook Guru

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    Anyone know how i can get the aliensense on my R3 or where to download it at? Thanks
     
  2. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    Hmm... I have not seen that since I disabled it on my M17x R2. (I hated it.) Was it ever available on the R3? I think there is a special module (hardware) that is required for Aliensense to work because there was an entry in Device Manager that I disabled on the R2. The M18x does not have it.
     
  3. JoeyFUZZ911

    JoeyFUZZ911 Notebook Evangelist

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    They don't have it anymore. I was looking for it at one point too.

    Try Sensible Vision. Theirs is pretty good and there are other facial reg software out there as well.
     
  4. WThesing

    WThesing Notebook Enthusiast

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    I received my M17XR3 on Feb 7th. I am still in the process of installing software & "playing" with features that are new to me.

    I am also trying to set up facial recognition. Here is what I have found.

    There is a factory installed program called "Live Central". This program controls the webcam. You cannot turn the webcam on or off ( Fn + F9) unless this program is running. It's only use is for snapshot / video capture, or video chat, which I have no interest in. This is my 1st laptop with a webcam. I did some online research, and found a free facial recognition program, that looks VERY promising entitled "KeyLemon". I figured I'd try the free version before purchasing the full version. The facial recognition is set up, and appears to be very good, however, The webcam does not turn on when booting up, due to lack of independent camera control. I made a post on this forum, as to how to correct this. Uninstalling the drivers, and "Live Central", then re installing the drivers & Live Central. Unfortunately, Dell packages the drivers & their software as a single download package.

    I spoke with tech support a few days ago, and they sent me a disc with another webcam software package, which includes a Dell program called "Fast Access Facial Recognition". I installed the package. Now the webcam turns on upon bootup, and Fast Access takes priority for login. The problem now is that I am having mixed results. The software is "learning" my face (updating) about half of the time, and actually recognizing half of the time. Varying lighting seems to affect the recognition. It does not seem to be as good as KeyLemon, which will not run because Fast Access takes priority. I really wish that Dell would separate the drivers from their software, so that we could have better use of the hardware. If anyone has an answer, I would appreciate the help. My situation is because of a little higher security need, I have a rather strong password, which I get tired of typing in. My previous laptop had a fingerprint reader, which worked great. The webcam needs to be freed up. I have not had the time to try & uninstall Fast Access to see what happens, due to work. Hopefully in the next couple of days I will check it out.
     
  5. WThesing

    WThesing Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just checked out "Sensible Vision" website. Their NEW program is also called "Fast Access Anywhere". Don't know if the Dell package has an older version by the same publisher.
     
  6. svrep

    svrep Company Representative

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    You are correct that Alienware is no longer shipping AlienSense. When they did, it came as part of their Command Center Software. To the previous poster's point, there was no special hardware required - only a standard USB webcam.

    You are also quite correct, Joey, that user's may now get FastAccess directly from Sensible Vision. Sensible Vision created AlienSense in the first place, and FastAccess is quite a bit newer / more advanced. For example, FastAccess also has the ability to log into websites with your face in addition to logging into Windows.

    These results are certainly not typical and it's highly likely that I can help. FastAccess includes a dynamic learning algorithm that should allow it to quickly learn your face in a very wide variety of positions, lighting, physical appearances, etc. I personally get well over 95% recognition (100% recognition will never happen with any program that has truly high confidence matches). Be sure that the "green border" is clearly visible around your face at all times during login - especially as you actually hit the enter key to login. This is critical.

    Be cautious with KeyLemon. It's very easy to create face recognition that recognizes the authorized user 100% of the time. To do so and maintain an extremely low risk of making mistakes is much, much harder. Of course I work for Sensible Vision so take this as you will, but FastAccess is the only face recognition that I know of that was originally created for and actually used in high security institutions such as healthcare and banking.

    FastAccess Anywhere is not yet released. It's entering beta shortly. When it is released (soon), it will include face recognition not only for Windows as we have currently (called simply FastAccess or FastAccess Pro depending on features), but also for Android and iOS as well.
     
  7. Mr. Fox

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    Well, then it must have been a virtual device in Device Manager that had to be disabled with the M17x R2. I remember disabling "facap" in Device Manager. I believe the version that I had with the R2 allowed web log-in as well.
     
  8. svrep

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    facap is a virtual camera created by AlienSense or FastAccess. It's not hardware, but instead is a virtual camera meant to allow simultaneous use of video by FastAccess and other video programs. facap may be disabled or enabled depending on the security mode selected in FastAccess (some modes use the camera after login which necessitates the virtual camera, some do not). The enabling or disabling of facap is done automatically by FastAccess and should never need to be done by hand.

    See our online FAQ site for more details about the virtual camera.
     
  9. JoeyFUZZ911

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    i have fastaccess and its pretty cool and works great.