The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Any way at all to remove the 79C throttle for 580m?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Chaos92, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. Chaos92

    Chaos92 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    138
    Messages:
    272
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    As title says- Is there any way at all to remove the 79C throttle??

    I tried using widezu's vbios. No power throttle at 63C but still throttles at 79C.

    I have replaced thermal pads, used ICD 24 and currently using PK 1 now. I still hit 79C within 5 min of furmark, that too with Cryo lx cooler.

    I just now did the blind flash method. A04 -> blind flash to A08 as given by GandalfTW here ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...ttling-m17x-r3-580m-without-120hz-screen.html)

    Only this this has done for me is that earlier after hitting 78C my gpu throttles until it cooled to 56C but now it throttles at 79C until it reaches 74C. In a way this is much worse as I go to 79C from 74C in seconds!


    Any help will be MUCH appreciated.


    ( My room temp is 32C. Idle cpu temp- 55C . Idle gpu temp- 56C. Prime 95 cpu temp-- 87C. furmark - 78C within 5 min).
     
  2. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

    Reputations:
    3,079
    Messages:
    4,207
    Likes Received:
    168
    Trophy Points:
    131
    Your ambient temps are way to hot as you are in India. I think vginside had some sort of fix but I've never tried it and I don't know whether it worked or not.

    Some people may advise you to go with the 6990m but I see you have 3D so you can't change. Funnily enough, my GPU never goes over 66C so either I have really cool GPU or I'm just in a really cold place. Swap? :D
     
  3. YodaGoneMad

    YodaGoneMad Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    555
    Messages:
    1,382
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Keep in mind Furmark is a ridiculous application, and you would be unlikely to hit similar temps with games. You might just try gaming to see if it still hits the throttle. Sadly, I suspect it will, but it is worth a try.

    You can go read this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m17x/641365-m17x-r3-gtx-580m-random-lags-help.html

    Which deals with your problem. I would encourage you to PM the Dell representatives on this forum, you can find information about that in the thread I linked.

    I sent them a message about this problem a few days ago, because there are people on this forum DAILY just like you and me that can't use their systems because of the ridiculous throttle. Dell removed the same throttle from the M18x, so they can do it, we just have to convince them that they want to do it.

    I don't know how long you have had your system, but if you are within the return period you can just Exchange or Return it and get a 6990m, the 6990m has no throttling at all.

    If you are out of the return period you should be able to use your warranty to get them to send you a 6990m and the associated heat sink and get it swapped out in your current machine.

    If none of the above work then you just have to pray that Dell will do the right thing and remove the throttle. I am also pursuing getting a modded Bios built that removes the throttle, so perhaps that will be a solution at some point if Dell won't do it, if I am successful I will gladly share the modded bios.

    Here is his solution: [Solved] Alienware M17x R3 Nvidia 580M Throttle at 77°C+ temps Furmark graph - YouTube

    If it actually works then it is something caused by the specific software he is using. All he does is flash the vBios, but then he uses a very specific driver and program version. It is certainly possible that those specific software versions are somehow overriding the throttle, some people claim to have taken their 580m up past 87c using that method.

    What are ambient temps there in Narnia?
     
  4. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

    Reputations:
    3,079
    Messages:
    4,207
    Likes Received:
    168
    Trophy Points:
    131
    We you know here in Narnia at my White Castle it is near freezing :D Jokes I'm in the UK and my heating doesn't function very well so I'm nearly always in a cold environment. Way under 20C.

    That throttle fix uses specific driver and software version so you can't keep up with the other fixes newer releases provide but it is a solution for those that need it.
     
  5. YodaGoneMad

    YodaGoneMad Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    555
    Messages:
    1,382
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    56
    The question I would ask is does it require that version of driver. It could be just using that version of HWinfo to override the fan is blocking the bios fan and power control module. The fix MIGHT work with newer drivers, unless someone has tested it and confirmed both things must be those versions.

    I will test it if I ever get a working laptop, heh.
     
  6. nayilalien

    nayilalien Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    125
    Messages:
    472
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    OP:

    have you tried a GPU repaste?
     
  7. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

    Reputations:
    2,377
    Messages:
    5,040
    Likes Received:
    277
    Trophy Points:
    251
    I wonder if running the fan at max speed using Hwinfo will drop temps with the 580m. I used to have temps hitting 63C with my 460m, but I started folding and I leave all my fans running at max speed to keep things cooler while its my machine is running maxed out for an extended period. My 460m barely hits 58C now even overclocked. Don't know if this has been looked at but it could work idk. Hope this helps. :)
     
  8. Augmented

    Augmented Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    31
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    30
    AS mentioned above, Furmark will simply crank out the BTU's! I use MSI's Kombuster (same benchmark) to get a stable OC on my desktop and it will push my 460's up to 70c but they stay chilly at 60c while gaming...even GPU heavy games.
     
  9. YodaGoneMad

    YodaGoneMad Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    555
    Messages:
    1,382
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Yea, really things like Furmark and OCCT are just to quickly test stability. You OC your card and use one of those apps to determine if it is somewhat stable in like 3 minutes, because it will take your card all the way to max temp, and if it doesn't crash then it probably won't during normal use.

    In terms of temperatures it is much more meaningful to actually fire up a game and get your max temp while playing. You have to remember games have load screens and variable graphics loads, they will never be 100% all the time, and that tends to help a lot with heat.