Any way to get 3D to work on any card past gtx680m ?

I have a bunch of Alienware M17x R4 all with 120hz 3D screens.
The ones with gtx675m and gtx680m do 3D fine under both Windows 7 or Windows 10.
But I have some upgraded with Quadro cards... m3000m, m4000m, m5000m.
The 3D doesn't activate on any of them, saying the display is not 3D capable.
(I think the screen is fine, but the BIOS is not allowing the GPU driver to turn on the 3D functions.)
Has anyone been able to get M17x R4 3D to work on the laptop screen with Quadro cards or GTX980m?

I even bought a 3D Vision Pro kit with external (USB) RF emitter hoping that would fix it (because the kit said it supports 3D Vision Pro on all Quadro cards.) It did ad the 3D glasses configurator into my Nvidia control panel, but the screen still doesn't activate for 3D.

Did anyone ever modify an M17x R4 BIOS to whitelist more GPUs for 3D capability?

Nvidia has end-of-lifed all the 3D, and they mention the final drivers that support it here:
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4781/~/support-plan-for-3dvision-products

I am typing this from M17x R4 Quadro m5000m (8GB), Bios A15, Windows 10, driver 425.31
Screen is running at 120hz, games play great in 2D, but I can't figure out any way to get the 3D to work again.

I hope someone knows a way.

-TEG

 

No

 

Its not a "how to get it to work" and more of a very select list of cards and configurations will work for 3D.

 

Do we know the exact mechanism that prevents the Nvidia driver from activating the 3D even though the screen is a 120hz 1080p that is known to work with other cards?
Does the Alienware BIOS provide a list of "approved" GPUs to the Nvidia driver?
Or does the Nvidia driver have the list inside, and just won't allow that combination of motherboard & GPU to activate 3D for the screen?

(Basically, wondering if any hope of a workaround would be targeted at the Alienware system BIOS, the NVidia driver, or the Vbios on the GPU?)
I think some people attempted to rewrite EDID on the screens without any luck doing that.

 

What ever it released with, unless Nvidia approves additional cards it will not work for 3d.

You can get higher end cards to work unofficially but of course that's not officially supported either.

 

This is what I am asking. How can you get a higher end card to work "unofficially" ?
Now that Nvidia has discontinued support of 3d Vision, and doesn't make money off it anymore, I don't think they should care if we know a way to activate it on more cards.

 

The answer is, you cant. Not for 3d. You absolutely take advantage of the 120hz / eDP signal type and install pascal (1060/1070) but 3d is dead and nvidia helped put in the dirt. There is no methodology to bypass this.

 

If I remember when svl7 and I looked at this way back, we already tried replacing the 680M device ID with that of a 780M and it did not work. We guessed it might be a signed certificate somewhere, similar to what is used for SLI, that we don’t know how to modify

 

OK, thank you. There is so much mis-information around this limitation. Some postings seemed to imply that some people knew how to make newer cards work, but they were keeping it to themselves because Dell/Nvidia didn't want it known. Now, I don't think there is anyone there that cares anymore. Maybe someone at Dell/Nvidia can throw us a bone since it isn't part of their product line anymore.
( Hey Dell, do you have some newer laptop I can buy that can do 120hz 3D vision? )

 

Not happening.

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4781/~/support-plan-for-3dvision-products

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/ans...5Q0R6ZldSemVfNkhlekk3em9sQVpVNjQzZFElMjElMjE=

You are better off looking at activating the laser cut portions of the GPU to get more performance out of it, or get a 17 R1 but a 780m isnt really worth that investment either for specifically 3d. 120hz? You have plenty of options, but 3d? nope.

 

I am going to try an Aurora R8 desktop with a Quadro P5000 and the 3D Vision pro kit. It claims it should work with that card. Hopefully the limitation is just related to the Alienware M17x R4 laptop BIOS.
I will report back here if I can get it to work on the new desktop.

 

It's a BIOS issue. There is a certificate that has the devices approved for the laptop. There's no way to get it to work unless it's officially signed or someone figures out something else.

Desktop card with official 3d vision support should work fine. Desktop cards are only limited by driver not BIOS

 

Thanks to all that responded. I am going to focus on getting the new desktop system to work, and just conclude that gtx680m is end of the line for 3D on M17x R4 laptops. ( By the way I find that Win7 works better on old Dx9 games than with Win10 )

In terms of newer cards like gtx980m, or Quadro m5000m, forced onto those systems, the only long shot hope of them ever doing 3D would be (from what I understand) if someone at Nvidia did another rev of r318 branch drivers that removed the Dell/Alienware GPU whitelist check to enable 3D vision to activate on otherwise good 120hz screens. It sounds like the whitelist built into the BIOS is too encrypted/protected for anyone to mod properly, and besides it would only be a fixed set of cards that could put in there.

I think the chances of someone at Nvidia having time and permission to make another r318 branch driver build with whitelist removed are close to 0, so I am not holding my breath, or getting my hopes up, but just want to have the idea out in the open in case some miracle at Nvidia can happen.

 

880M is 3D certified.

 

He has M17xR4 (680m certified)

Not 17 R1 (780m/880m certified)

 

Usually if the card is support , it should work in the m17x R4. I dont remember if I tried it.

 

Well, I am just going to go the desktop route since gtx880m wouldn't be enough of an upgrade to be worth the hassle.
I was hoping to make the Quadro m5000m work in 3D, but it is just barely adequate for the games I play on it.
Hopefully the Quadro P5000 desktop card I have on order will work out for 3D vision.
I got an old 3D Vision certified DVI-D (dual link) 1080p@120hz LED display that should work, and I am also going to try a 2560x1440@120hz DisplayPort 1.4 and see if that can work.

 

Well I got Alienware Aurora R8 desktop with i7-9700k but am having some struggles with 3D.
Maybe some is due to Windows 10 instead of Windows 7.
I tried RTX 2080 super with DisplayPort 1.4 2560x1440 144hz LG screen and Nvidia drivers just said screen will not work for 3D. (Suggestions online say to use DVI-D dual link)
So I got GTX 1080 card with DVI-I dual-link and used the old Acer 3D screen and 3D works for some things.
It recognized the 3D Vision Pro kit and the RF glasses work in the Nvidia demos.
I can also watch 3D Blueray movies using Stereoscopic player.
But still having problems making games work. I used 3D Fix Manager to take the latest Nvidia driver and tweak it to enable 3D vision.
GTA-V starts up showing the 3D Vision overlay text, but doesn't stay in 3D and drops back to 2D shortly after launching it.

Meanlwhile I can go back to Win7 M17x r4 with gtx680m and run GTA-V in 3D mode and it it works fairly well, but the framerate is just too low by modern standards.

 

Well I changed GTA-V from DX10 to DX11 and it is working great. Enjoying the 3D on latest Windows 10 with latest GTX1080 drivers.

Thanks to "3D Fix Manager" people...

I decided to just leave my 3D M17x R4s with gtx680m cards in stock configuration and just use the desktop when I need more FPS and a bigger screen.

By the way, I read about laser cut jumper to make gtx680m activate more cores. Does that work OK with stock heatsink?
Also, are people able to put an MSI/Clevo gtx680m with 4GB VRAM (instead of 2GB) into M17x R4 ?

I also read about someone flashing GTX675m vBIOS onto a GTX980m... Does that actually work? And enable 3D?! There is so much mis-information out there about 3D...

 

And some summary info from what I learned about 3D Vision:
#1: On desktops, the graphics card doesn't really matter, but best if it has DVI-I dual-link DVI output.
#2: On desktops, the screen needs to be Nvidia 3D vision certified. I found an old Acer that does the job, but options are liimited, and a lot of newer screens won't work.

On M17x R4 laptop, the 120hz screen is certified, but only certain graphics cards are allowed. The stock gtx580m, 660m, 675m, and 680m all can work with the right drivers.

I may be wrong, but I don'k anyone has gotten 3D to work with any newer graphics cards in M17x R4. Not 770m, not 880m, not 980m, etc.


Cards like 880m may work for 3D in some newer Alienware/Dell, but not the M17x R4 due to BIOS not allowing it.