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    Anyone tried softmodding to a Quadro - or is there a "firm-mod" to do this?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by superdave643, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. superdave643

    superdave643 Notebook Geek

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    I know most gamers wouldn't bother doing this, but occasionally I do CAD and 3D visualization work whose performance is greatly improved on a Quadro. Has anyone tried soft-/firm-modding a GeForce 580M with success? The current version RivaTuner 2.24c doesn't seem to know what to do with the Device IDs of the newest GPUs and how to deal with the latest drivers.

    Thanks!
     
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    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    The 580m uses the GF114 core. The highest mobile quadro is a 5010m with almost the same specs: same shaders and memory bandwidth but lower clocks. However it uses a GF100 core.

    They use different core models. If the cores were the same, usually a simple vbios flash is all it takes. However, they are different and will not work.

    If you go about editing the ID strings, chances are no drivers at all will install, not even modded ones and worse case is that you brick your card.
     
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    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    superdave643 Notebook Geek

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    Right, don't want to brick my new computer. :eek: I'll take a hit on outright fps to trade for FP-crunching. Back to my little cubicle hole... Aside from fairly minor annoyances, I really do love my R3. My former Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo had serious unresolved issues (WLAN BSODs) but I kept it for 4 1/2 years!

    @GeoCake: Grrr, I'm envious (sort of). AMD has no current equivalent to Optimus (which I consider indispensable) and what few engineering apps I'm using now that exploits the GPU are presently CUDA-only. Waiting for OpenCL ports and I'll likely go AMD next time around!
     
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    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    Which makes me wonder why you never went and got a Precision M6600 in the first place? The Quadros 3000M in the most part is way more optimized and better in simulation work than a 580M, despite its actual hardware is one-tier lower in performance. The pain of nVidia is that they want to truly keep their Gaming and their Professional lineup separate and over the last few years, they are trying really hard to prevent cross-modding the two series to work like one of the other so to speak.
     
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    katalin_2003 NBR Spectre Super Moderator

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    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    This, in my opinion is a blessing. I hate Optimus because although the idea is sound, the implentation isn't great. You get many instances where an application is running on integrated graphics when you want it to use discrete graphics and vice versa

    AMD allows you to manually switch to integrated graphics. So i decide when to do this. i can get 4-5 hrs on battery on integrated Intel graphics
     
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    However that requires the OP to complete swap GPU's and I don't think that is what he had in mind to do. Also do note that Quadros cards aftermarket are $$$.

    +1 on that. However, ATI's Switchable Graphics does make driver installation a pain though...
     
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    I did have an M6600 just recently and I traded up for this. I do 3D CAD only occasionally but for what I do, the Quadro 3000M falls far short of raw GPU computing power to the GTX580M and, AFAIK as far as CUDA/OpenCL is concerned, it does not matter whether it's a GeForce or Quadro. In fact, in terms of single-precision MFLOPS, active cores, clock speeds, memory GB/s, etc., the 3000M is quite far below even a 470M.

    I did look for an M6600/4000M but was way out of my budget. It didn't help that the M6600 I had only had a 1600x900 screen.
     
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    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    SuperDave, the feeling in the community is that CUDA will be less and less important as we move forward. People like open standards like openCL. Its just a matter of time

    That is true. You often read of people on these forums that have issues updating the AMD drivers. I don't know what i did or what my magic formula is, but i've installed RC and officials 11.7, 11.8, 11.9 various, 11.10 various , 11.11 various, 12.x various...I've done this always on the first try, not a single bsod, and usually, i've just installed over the previous version

    i should think back to what i did and write a guide lol
     
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    Thank you, you have been very helpful to me! I read the whole thread and put in 2 cents in there.
    I agree and can't wait! :)