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    BAD SSD speeds?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Sabaku, Jun 23, 2011.

  1. Sabaku

    Sabaku Notebook Geek

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    why are these results so bad? vertex 2? fresh install? am i missing a driver or something? hmm.
     
  2. TraptPatriot

    TraptPatriot Notebook Consultant

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    Did you just get the SSD or have you been using it?
     
  3. kevinmajere

    kevinmajere Notebook Consultant

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    I got the same results with my kingston 128g SSD, been using it for almost a year...

    Trapt, are you saying the longer you use them, they decrease in performance?
     
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    TraptPatriot Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, you have to "reset" them to return the performance of factory new. Gotta look for special erase programs that don't just make your data go away, but remove the blocks too. Check with your products company/forums for what to use.
     
  5. kevinmajere

    kevinmajere Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you Trapt!

    I had no idea that could happen to a SSD! I've had my 2nd generation Kingston drive since August of last year, but lately Windows takes a long time to boot, and my WIE for primary hard disk dropped from 8.2 to 4.3 dragging my score way down!
     
  6. TraptPatriot

    TraptPatriot Notebook Consultant

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    No problem. Lesson learned for me too. I have a Crucial C300, and can't find any hardware to erase it clean, not just wipe it. Crucial didn't make one. Next SSD I buy is going to have the tool already! Lol
     
  7. NegLet

    NegLet Notebook Guru

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    Random question that might sort of be on topic: does the Intel 510 have this "cleaning" tool implemented?
     
  8. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Use a Linix bootable USB. I use Ubuntu or mint, but trim should take care of that, unless your running a raid setup in which trim is not functionable.

    Boot through the USB and when you get into ubuntu open terminal. Then follow these instructions. But before you start, as soon as you get into the terminal, type "sudo su"

    Then follow the instructions found here. If it tells you your drive is frozen/locked, simple remove it and reinsert it while ubuntu is on. Takes 2 sec. Then it becomes unfrozen.

    Oh, and in the instructions it uses /dev/x you need to replace "X" with sda so where it says /dev/x type /dev/sda

    I actually did it earlier.

    Before you do any of this, I recommend creating an image of your drive, that way when you secure erase the drive, you can simply re-image and begin where you left off.

    Hope this helps.
     
  9. TraptPatriot

    TraptPatriot Notebook Consultant

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    I think so. I'm pretty sure Intel came out with their own erase too. But, you would have to verify... I only read about it on a forum, not 100% for sure.
     
  10. TimmyJay

    TimmyJay Newbie

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    @ Sabaku
    Verify trim is enabled

    1. Using the Start Menu Search Box, Search CMD;
    2. Right click the Cmd Program and select Run as Administrator;
    3. In the command line type “fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify”
    If DisableDeleteNotify=0 TRIM is Enabled.
    If DisableDeleteNotify=1 TRIM is Disabled.

    Read this How to set up Windows on a VERTEX - OCZ Forum Wiki Log off and Idle on that screen a few hours a week. Vertex III does not support the use of wiper but Vertex II should and you can download here OCZ Forum - OCZ Forum Tools and even set it up as a task or startup. OCZ has a toolbox that you can safely secure erase and upload FW to provided that you are not booting from the OCZ drive, get it here OCZ Technology

    I have a vertex III and I also have bad scores, see attached. Are all of you benching as bad as I am....Could I see some of your marks?
     
  11. GandalfTW

    GandalfTW Notebook Geek

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    I have doubts that idling at login screen is helpful because there are many Windows activities that can still interrupt garbage collection. There are running services and such but also stuff like registry updates, filesystem updates (last accessed stuff you see in file properties etc). Exception would be SSD which is not a boot drive. I prefer to reboot and hit F8 and just idle at the windows boot selection. Some people even idle at bios but I find the high speed of m17x fans spinning at bios, very annoying.
    Anyway I don't think you have to do it more than once a week for couple of hours or so. I do it now once every few weeks. I have Vertex 1 drive and I find my performance does not degrade at all over months of use. The performance degradation use to suck in previous revisions but not it works great. Trim and the fact that I don't have my drive filled 100% helps that but also the SSD manufacturers made their drives better at self maintenance.

    When I bench I use ATTO, and I typically get around 170MGs writes and 260MGs reads once it hits 64k blocks or greater.

    Vertex 2 and 3 should match or get higher performance than this.
     
  12. TraptPatriot

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    Logon screen is better than actually in Windows.