Cancel the R3 and order the M18 on the 19th?

Please Heeeeeelp..

I just chatted with a rep and he told me the M18 will be released on the 19th. The starting price is almost 2000$ which is not a lot more than the R3

My order for the R3 should ship in the next two days,

Should I cancel my order????

he told me about a 15% restocking fee but when argued that my order didn't ship yet, he gave me a number to call so maybe they wont charge me.

I am trying to decide now!

 

If you can cancel it w/o paying a 15% restocking fee cancel it.
If you don't you'll probably regret not having the latest and greatest AW.

 

i would be suspect about the 19th.....reps never have good info....and besides, i take issue with the term "latest and greatest"

from what the rumors tell us about the m18x, it isnt a system that should even be compared to the m17x r3......apples and oranges.....

if the m17x suites your needs and wants get it.....dont listen to anyone else. only you know whats right for you....

i have no desire for a dual GPU system, i would rather have the most powerful single GPU system....but thats ME....

What is it that you want?

 

I want the latest and the greatest

also, lets say that they can't be compared against each order. The M18 has a the new design and a new keyboard which makes a difference.

 

Be warned, as someone who owns a Qosmio that is 18.4"; the laptop is considerably larger than 17.3" (even though you would think 1.1" wouldn't really matter).

Anways, if you grab a hold of a m18x, post lots of pics!

 

Just be careful about ordering the m18x as soon as it's out, as we've seen with almost every release there's usually some super early problems, I would probably wait until the first wave of m18x's get released and any critical issues resolved first.

 

Wanting the latest and greatest is a dangerous obsession...you will only have it for a few mounths before it is no longer the latest and greatest...it will put you broke and leave you chasing the next big thing...but i supose you wouldnt be in this forum if you didnt want the greatest lol

 

I think you should definitely cancel the R3 and order the m18 so that they have more parts and mine might ship quicker!!!

 

If your laptop will only be used for gaming id say get the the 18x. However the m17x will still play every game at max. Its really up to you. With the way the gpus are now i dont think theres much need for the 18x but thats imo. The fps are going to be mad on it no doubt.

 

Simply depends on your needs in a laptop.

Comparison you are looking at is super duper power of Dual GPUs? 18.4" screen? Aluminum body? extreme proc? Vs Single powerful GPU with good battery life (6970M), 17.3", able to carry around.

PS: I don't think I will call M18x a Laptop lol

 

The M18x is the same size as the R2. So it's bigger than the R3 but not by too much. The biggest change would be the weight. The R2/M18x are quite a bit heavier than R3.

 

Weight would mean nothing to me. Of course, I carry around 1500 page anatomy books anyways and already have a 14 inch Dell for school. I just need something to game and view Blu-Rays on a gorgeous screen in a cramped off-campus room.

 

Only reason I'm even looking at the M17x is the fact they made it lighter...M18x dual GPu Dual Hd too mcuh cramped into a laptop IMO...I've seen this before, the amount of heat that creates is HARD to keep under control..when my laptop goes out of warranty I want as few issues as possible that could go wrong. Thats just me...

 

Are you a med student? I hated anatomy during my first semester of med school, probably the worst class I ever took. And yeah, once you get used to carrying around those heavy books, an additional 10 lb notebook doesn't mean much.

 

This is hardly the case with any of AW's recent dual graphics notebooks. They all have very good cooling and temperatures and there's plenty of space and ventilation. They don't pull an Apple by cramming everything inside a shell and then having that hot aluminum shell burn your legs.

 

found pictures already on another forum

http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/569469-alienware-m18x-pictures.html

 

Like it was said earlier, I wouldn't be so confident in trusting a sales rep when they tell you anything. I would return my R3 that is on order, but I purchased it through AAFES, and I don't know how long it would take for the m18x to show up there. Otherwise, I'd totally go for the m18x just for the larger screen size.

 

The question is if the M18x will have switchable graphics or not. If so, the M18x looks very promising.

I can deal with a heavier laptop, but not if it has horrible battery life due to the lack of switchable graphics.

 

Can you have switchable graphics with xfire/sli?

 

That's what I'm wondering.

In theory, switchable graphics should just be simply shutting off the dedicated GPUs, and routing the graphics to the IGP. Though I'm not too sure.

 

I posted something similar to this, but instead I've had my R3 for over a month now, and im not sure if im able to return it and wait till the M18X arrives and just pay the price difference.

 

And why dont you wait for M19x? or 20x? 21x?...

 

Because, there's a difference between waiting for something that's already confirmed by Dell (M18x), and waiting for something that's pure speculation and may never come out (M19x, M20x, M21x).

That's like saying, why don't you quit your day job right this instant because maybe one day you'll win the lottery, and working right now would be pointless.

 

You both have very valid points. If you cancel/Return something that is an amazing Product just because somethignelse came out your going to keep kicking yourself for not waiting just a little longer. At the same time there is no reason not to buy something just because one day something better might come out. I say that if you have a m17x r3 and you are happy with it then there is no compromise. Its not like your playing the max settings even more uber just because max settings on a bigger screen look better. Although i know it will be able to handle better games in the future the R3 is not a weak machine in any way. My thing is,and this is not meant to be flame or an argument starter, are you wanting the 18 inch because you see a longterm vision of what it could be used for or do you want it because its newer?

 

I was concerned about the r3 vs the m18x originally but once I got it and saw the performance I am worry free.

I had 2 5870s and then 2 GTX 580s in my desktop and have fully experienced both companies' offerings of multi-GPU setups. Just not something I want to delve into again... I'm much happier with a single, higher performance GPU than two mid range ones.

 

ok I am starting to think I should keep my order for the R3.

R3 vs M18 looks like they are different laptops. the M18 is a little better with alum. case and different keyboard

 

Not to mention the Extra GPU but like i said the R3 isn't exactly a weak machine.

 

Don't forget the M18x also adds a dedicated sound card, dedicated audio software, and an added subwoofer.

From what I've heard about the R3's audio performance, it isn't anything too spectacular.

 

^^This.

And, damn, technology shure moves fast...Just got this thing, and already a new one comes out. Sheesh!

 

Okay what's this thing about the restocking fee? I mean you have 21 days to return the laptop free of charge or am I missing something?
As far as I'm concerned I've already contacted Dell to cancel my R3 order, only my R3 has already shipped, so they told me to refuse accepting its delivery once it arrives, but the problem is that I'm in Qatar and won't be there when it's delivered, and the company that's gonna resend my laptop from New York to Qatar can't refuse a package! But what they can do is accept it and then send it straight back, so that's what I'm gonna do.

 

id be interested in seeing how much performance is gained by the 2x460 vs one single 6970. Im hoping its more than 25%. 25% more GPU performance plus the other extra goodies might just be worth the extra $$$.

The dual 6970 is probably way north of reasonable since just one 6970 costs $AUD400 more here.

 

Anybody know the spec of basic $2k m18x?
Want to compare with r3 that i ordered week ago.

 

The base price is probably going to be around $2k minimum with specs such as:

- Single 460m
- 2630qm
- 320gb HDD
- 4gb RAM
- DVD drive
- stock Wifi card

But anything right now is pure speculation, but that was the configuration on the Canadian website yesterday before they pulled it.

 

It's gonna be more expensive but anyone saying don't get it is probably an m17x R3 owner who is using cognitive dissonance to further justify their purchase. People DO want latest and greatest when they typically buy alienware. It WILL be more expensive but if you don't mind the expense, then why wouldnt you want a BETTER GAMING machine; which the alienware is really all about at the end of the day....

 

Yea i would of liked if dell offered that in the r3, but im thinking they wanted to keep it as a pulling factor for the 18x ?

 

Yea, M1. I actually liked anatomy but I just hated the way it was taught. I played football in HS and am a pretty tall guy (the m18x for me would be like the m15x for most people) also so I'm used to some heavy lifting.

 

Exactly. Why release all those good features on a revision? It was a good idea to release it on a NEW model.

 

My r3 plays everything at max, has a screen that is more than big enough and is about the max size I would ever want to carry anywhere.

As someone who travels for work I have no interest in the M18 it is just too big and the pros do not outweigh that con for me.

If you want a desktop replacement with the most power possible than you should probably get the M18. If you want a notebook that is portable and still very powerful than stick with your R3.

 

Right now, im on phone with AMERICAN support, to see if I can still return my laptop after the 21 days. if I can't S.E. my way through it, i'll just stick with my R3. Although I like the new keyboard, better sound, dual graphics cards, i wouldn't mind paying an extra few bux, as long as I can pay the price difference for that M18X. I can wait and use my Macbook Pro in the meantime, hah.

 

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Here's what I got out of my phone call. It was a women from the Nashville center, so obviously it was american and not an out source. She said she would have a manager call me back in 4 business hours to talk about returning my laptop to them.

She also told me they were testing out the M18Xs to get familiar with the specs for better support when they come out. She said it should be coming out within the next few weeks, because she was testing the R3s when they came out, and usually thats how they do stuff. I got the number from member "Florick" and I was supposed to be transferred to someone named Johnathan Scott but was transferred to someone else in nashville because Johnathan wasn't in today.

I'll be able to post more later on the day when I get more news about it.

 

I called them too and I have not received my R3 yet. They told me they can't cancel my order because its almost out or something but they gave me the choice of either sending it back free of charge when I receive it, or keep it and they offered me 100$ discount on my R3

I decided I'd wait and see how the rumers on the M18 goes and then return it later before my 21 days end.

 

There are no rumors if it was posted on the Canadian website (the M18X). It's bound to come out, plus some specs were leaked. And hopefully if my american source is correct, its coming out within the next few weeks or next month. Then again, I take support's word with a grain of salt. I don't mind rocking my Macbook Pro for a month or so until the M18X comes out, as long as I can get a refund for my R3 even though its been over 21 days.

 

I read someone in this thread that the m18x would only be around $2000 (starting).
What I am wanting to know is: are people going to return the m17x.r3 so they can buy the m18x with the exact same specs and pay more money for it? OR are they going for dual-GPUs and probably hit the $3000 mark ? [My prices are only assumptions.]

I can understand people returning the m17x.r3 if the m17x.r4 was just a few weeks away; but m18x is an entirely different beast.

 

I'd like to see if I could get a refund first. If not, then i'll just stick with my R3 plain and simple. the only difference is the M18X has a new keyboard (that thing on the left), better audio system, dual graphics card and a bigger screen (with the same resolution). thats about it.

 

That's my point. Expect to pay a lot more for those features.

 

You have 21 days from the time it ships to return it free of charge if you order another laptop. If you ordered the R3 and are within the 21 days by the time you order the m18x you won't have to pay any restocking fee

 

Rules are always meant to be broken, and im sure someone on this forum still returned it even though they went over the 21 days. It's possible.

 

Yeah good point, i've seen people get away with 30 days but any longer might be a stretch

 

mines pretty much 31-33 days but we'll see what happens. If I don't get a call from the manager within the hour I'll just call again and see what I can do. I'll post here what happens.