I just have my M17x-R3 but when I launch HWinfo32, it tell me I have a Chipset Rev B2. Dell doesn't sent M17x-R3 now with the new chipset B3?
Just got my laptop today.
Is a bug from hwinfo32 ?
can someone with a new R3 can see that with his laptop ?
Thanks
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Where else can you check that it says "B3" ? -
Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!
Contact Mumak here on the forum is the Developer of HWinfo32 he may know better
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That's from my r3, which was part of the first batch. -
There's a feature in Intel chipsets called Compatibility Revision ID which can override the value of Hardware Revision ID when the BIOS developers decide so. It's meant to be used in cases when a new revision is released and the vendors don't want Windows to recognize it as a new hardware (if the system binds drivers to a particular PCI revision) - a kind of full backward compatibility. In case the BIOS uses this feature on B3, it will cause the (hardware) B3 to be reported as B2 and unfortunately there's no way for software to determine what the true (hardware) revision is (the BIOS overrides it and it sticks until next reset, when it does again).
Maybe there could be another way how to determine this, but for that I'd need a HWiNFO32 Debug File to analyse it. -
I would test mine using the instruction on vads link. I'll post the result as soon as possible.
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If the Compatibility Revision ID is used, then there's no way how to determine this - all software, operating system methods including (as the one posted there) will report B2.
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Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!
@ Mumak , how can i save the debug file to sent to you ? or maybe an actual owner of the R3 want's to do that since mine comes tomorrow
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Enable Debug Mode in HWiNFO32, run it as usual and when it finishes, close it and send me the HWiNFO32.DBG file it created.
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It tell me there's "no instance free"
(see attachment)Attached Files:
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I'm pretty damn sure they sent me a B2 stepping, it was listed as such under CPU-Z.
Also, I'm having the strangest issues with this laptop. When I installed Firefox 4 RC, the entire thing is blurred. I'm running at the native res, and I've already done a clean install before.
It's so weird, the program looks smudged, same with Command Center, You Tube (the media player controls), and Intel RST.
I'd post pics if I had time, but I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.
I'm running the latest Flash Player and Java, it was still like this under Java update 22 (the one it shipped with). -
I remember when my geforce4 mx and my ati radeon 9600pro died on me. They made lines across the screen, and were fuzzy red, blue, and green, colored. Kinda squiggly lines like when you tune into a bad receptioned tv channel in the old days. -
I received my R3 last Friday and today when I use some software to check motherboard (CPU-Z version 1.57 ,AIDA64 and also hardware lds from device manager), they show it is a B2 version and my friend also has a B2 version motherboard on new R3.
I contact DEll today, they say the chipset used in R3 is totally OK.But I do not know if this B2 version has no problem. Dose anyone have anyh idea?? -
what i know is that the fixed chipset is called B3 (the new fixed sandy bridge)
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You need to check which SATA ports are being used. If ports 2,3,4, and 5 aren't being used, then it doesn't matter which stepping you have.
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PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_282A&SUBSYS_04901028&REV_04
here is the hardware lds of my sata controller. I have two ssd and a dvd.
This seems means that Dell has shipped some B2 motherboard, because this is not only happen to me also my friend. So should I return it or keep it -
Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!
some body may have to open the laptop to find the chipset stepping because Mumak says they may override the device ID for compatibility
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they cant ship faulty motherboards. the revision means its fixed. i really wouldnt worry about it. if anything ever does go wrong youll be more than covered as this whole problem is well documented.
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subscribed!! I wanna know more info and experiences......
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Wierd, mine is a pre-recall R3 and in CPU-Z it shows up as:
Chipset: Sandy Bridge Rev. 09
Southbridge: HM67 Rev. B2
You sure the 'fixed' mobos are supposed to be Rev. 09? -
DaneGRClose Notebook Virtuoso
Mine also shows as Rev. 09 so either you mixed those two up or it's not an acurate way to identify the chipset version.
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MoreNotebooksPlox Notebook Consultant
B3 is labeled on the boxes the revised motherboards come in. I'd say the only way to really find out is to just pop the machine open. I don't think Dell would pull a shifty, there would be legal issues.
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Ya I really doubt they would either but I figured Id mention it.
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For driver compatibility, the B3 stepping chipsets may have been made to look like B2. Therefore, the only way to tell is to look at the physical markings on the chips.
This technical document from Intel tells us that we should be looking for:
SLJ4N BD82HM67 (B3)
instead of
SLH9C BD82HM67 (B2)
http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/specupdate/324646.pdf -
men, Can you check this?
1. update windows 7 to sp1
2. update bios to a05 (from dell, at least for me [xps 17 spanish configuration])
3. shutdown pc
4. start pc and press F2 to enter bios setup
5. go the last tab (I think was the last tab, not sure)
6. load default settings, save changes, exist saving changes.
7. Now windows 7 detect new hardware and start install drivers
8. restart pc after windows finish installationg (it will alert you when its done and need restart)
check cmd on administrator
type: wmic idecontroller get deviceid
and check you now get rev_05
Before I do this, I had rev_04, after do those steps I got rev_05 (The most important step is 6 [after this step I got the rev_05])
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Dell will not hold a machine for a month because of intel chip issue then just ship it regardless, the hardware info is being masked by the bios, it has already been discussed on this forum, close this thread
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Ya I mean I understand why people would be concerned but there almost no chance they would ship out the old mobos (as its been mentioned before they are legally bound NOT TO once intel informed them).
If the bios is just masking the rev. Youd have to find the south bridge and locate the code, prob way more hassle than its worth. Unless you really want to look and its easy to get to + not hidden under a heatsink. -
The Dell L702X thread is going through similar concerns. As my wife is looking into this one, I called Dell... but I really hate the "he said - she said" stuff. Save the Dell stuff for the Dell forum, but it is an interesting read.
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Just realized that is where carlso brought his information from. Being very cautious about the BIOS step... is this for the L702X or the M17X R3?
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Until Dell posts a BIOS revision specifically for the M17xR3, do not worry about it. If its not appearing on the US download page for the R3, then its not something to be concerned with (IMO). Use your M17xR3 and don't worry about it. A03 is the most recent BIOS for the M17xR3. Each system is different - just because Dell may post an update for one of its SB systems, does not mean its for all of its SB systems nor does it mean something is 'wrong' with its SB systems which requires an update. Dont worry about the L702x. Its not the M17xR3.
Here is a handy link directly to the BIOS listing for the R3. Bookmark it if it makes you feel better...
http://support.dell.com/support/dow...abIndex=&scanSupported=True&scanConsent=False
For those of you who are still wondering about this, I'm going to re-post what I posted here, my 2 cents on this whole 'Did dell send me an old motherboard with my order' question -
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I have identified an issue in HWiNFO32 recognizing the B3 revision in case you have a Intel HM67 chipset (under Mainboard it will display B2, but in the PCI Bus device tree it's correctly reported as B3). It will be fixed in the next release. Let me know if you need a pre-release.
Still if the Compatibility Revision ID is activated by BIOS, it's not possible to recognize B3 properly. -
Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!
BD82HM67
SLJ4N
E186A223
So for those that are worry about the chipset revision don't worry even if software says is B2 Dell replace with B3 already -
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Mine is fine, HWiNFO is just not working properly.
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Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!
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It is amazing what you can find in technical documentation if you just search around. i.e. the DisplayPort version supported by the HM67 is 1.1. -
That will be fixed tomorrow with a new version planned for release.
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I can confirm that in CPU-Z, in the Mainboard tab, I have for Chipset: Rev. 09, and for Southbridge: Rev. B2.
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phew...i was worried there for a second......
first i am having issues with Optimus, then this revelation......B2 rev09 -
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FallenwingsMiku Notebook Consultant
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mine is B2 Rev 08
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I've got B2 rev09, BIOS A03. Factory set bios version btw.
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FallenwingsMiku Notebook Consultant
My Alienware M17x R3 got a B2 motherboard inside? - Alienware Forum - Alienware Club - Dell Community
I dont know if this helps. But I thought A04 fixed the problem??? -
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FallenwingsMiku Notebook Consultant
Read here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m17x/569546-m17xr3-bios-a04-discussion.html
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