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    Discrete GPU not detected in bios

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Baqir, Dec 17, 2019.

  1. Baqir

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    hello everyone i really need some help here is how it happened

    i tried underclocking my cpu which end up no display when i power it on nothing was functional so i tried the nvram reset method that by taking out all rams and putted one back as soon pc rebooted after beeping twice for a minute it worked but at 1st it does 5 beeps even though cmos battery is new and everytime i boot it that happens. and the gpu is getting power and getting hot when i use my pc but it's fan is not spinning either i tried removing and putting it back even tried booting my pc without gpu it works fine but when i put it back the situation is same it's not detected in bios. i can't flash my bios because i don't have a functional battery is there any solution to make the gpu work and get rid of 5 time beep every 1st startup
     
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    Ok, so to clarify, your machine boots up fine with the dedicated graphics card removed? Do you have a spare video card lying around that you can slap in to verify the graphics card that was installed in the laptop isn't dead?

    Also, with the video card removed, does the laptop always boot fine, or does it sometimes give beep error codes?
     
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    What model is it? M17x or 17 R1?
     
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    it work even when it's installed

    yes M17x R1

    as i mentioned that i tried bios reset so when i boot it 1st it gives 5 beeps even if gpu is not plugged it.
    it does the same when gpu is plugged in
    i am able to use the laptop with or without the amd gpu but after the 5 beeps i have to shutdown and start again what i mean is 1st boot is 5 beeps but 2nd time the pc boots to windows
     
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    I would suggest to try to bridge the pins for the CMOS battery on the motherboard with a screwdriver. This will reset your BIOS. If it's the 17 R1 from 2014 then it's more difficult to get to the battery but if it's the M17x R1 from the late 2000's then it could be easier but I have never taken one of them apart.

    After resetting your BIOS the machine will usually give the 5 beep code once but then it sorts itself out after that. If your machine does it every time you reboot then your CMOS battery may be faulty.

    If you can boot with the GPU in the machine and it isn't recognised in the BIOS or Device Manager then your GPU is probably dead. It could be that your BIOS is set to Integrated Graphics only so it won't detect the discrete graphics. A BIOS reset should fix this, hopefully.
     
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    hey the gpu was working before undervolting the CPU
    and the gpu is heating up like normally it would do but it won't be detected in bios
    i guess it's 17 r1 because the battery was beside wlan card so i broke the little plastic and took out the battery but taking it out when i was trying to reset didn't do nothing it didn't reset the bios. i managed somehow to reset bios but now everytime i disconnect my ac adapter it resets itself
     
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    Maxware79 Alienware died in 2014

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    Yeah you have to really pull the machine apart completely to get the battery out properly. It's a pain.

    The GPU could still be dead even if it heats up. I have had a few that did that. It sounds like you have two separate issues though with the GPU and CMOS. You really need another GPU to do some tests.
     
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    is there any way to install bios without battery
     
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    7 Beeps is a CPU error. Maybe trying to undervolt the CPU has done some damage.
     
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    It worked great before the bios flash :/
     
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    I think everything went downhill after the undervolting. Considering all the issues you've had, I'm leaning towards it being your motherboard.

    I have a few R1's with spare parts so it would be easy for me to test but a little hard if you don't have another machine.
     
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    So there is, no way to fix it
     
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    I wouldn't give up on it but if it has multiple faults then the cost to repair wouldn't really be worth it.

    It could have been a bad BIOS flash so you could look into ways of rolling it back.
     
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    How to fix bios when i have black screen and 7 beeps
     
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    I’m not sure. I’ve never had to do it but I’ve heard it is possible sometimes. I wish I had your machine to test


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    Can you provide a link or something that may help
     
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    Hello guys i recently flash my alienware 17 r1. I flashed the unlocked version by changing the Service Tag. The laptop now has 7 beep on boot up and black screen how shall i recover from it now.
    Thanks
     
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    There is emergency blind flash procedure here on the forum made by Striker1234
     
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    Can you provide link
     
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    No. I am working, you can search the 17 R1 forum its here.
     
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    Hi i found it but it's telling me to press the END button is it just the normal end but beside the F12 key

    Myaptop is having same problem as fan spinning the drive is flashing light but no restart or anything happens
     
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    Hello everyone, i need to know which one is bios chip i have attached the picture of the motherboard. What if i buy a programmed chip and replace it will it work with alienware 17 r1 thanks.
     

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    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    The picture quality is a tad poor, but these two look like good candidates:

    [​IMG]

    Make a close-up of each and pen down their markings; an SPI eeprom will be labeled *25*32* for a 32-Mbit one, *25*64* for 64-Mbit and so on. The largest one will hold the bios(+ec) firmware and if there's a second, smaller eeprom then that one may contain the Intel ME or firmware for such things as Bluetooth, LAN or TPM.
     
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    one that is close to processor is marked with 25064fvs10
    1422
    so i suppose that's the one for bios
     
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    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Yes, so it expects a 64Mbit (=8MB) binary file.

    You could indeed order a pre-programmed replacement chip, but that'd necessitate soldering whereas, the chip being physically alright, you might as well simply reprogram it with a good image:
    Alienware 17 - bios A14.7z

    Mind that the downloads provided by Dell are packed and padded, so even the extracted .fd file cannot be flashed as-is. The file above is exactly 64Mbit (8,388,608 bytes) and can be written 1:1 to the eeprom. Also, a new chip is around $20, but a basic programmer can be had for as little as $10. There's also a fancier model for sale on this forum for a fair price (under ' Everything Else'). It supports far more chips and the software is easier to use compared to the $10 options. It makes dallying in unlocked/modded bioses less of a risky enterprise, to boot.

    Whatever programmer you'd choose it needs to have a test clip as well if you want to forgo the soldering part:
    SOIC8 SOP8 Test Clip For EEPROM 93/25 /24Cx in-Circuit Programming + 2 Adapters

    Sometimes a motherboard does not support direct (in-place) programming, so there is no 100% guarantee you wouldn't have to solder in the end.

    Ps.
    Seems you have made a few more threads on the same topic. I will merge these for you. In the future, please refrain from creating new threads for every sub-question that may pop up along the way.
     
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    So in total, i can't flash it using usb even the file you provided above. The only way is chip replacement or the reprogramming of chip using programmer
     
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    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    That is correct.

    However, if you were still able to access the bios menu then a blind force-flash would also be possible with the above file. So assuming you have a booting system again:
    Alienware 17 - bios A14 auto-flash.7z

    Use Rufus to create a FAT32 bootable MS-DOS stick and copy the files from the .7z on the drive. Be very, very careful to not leave that concoction laying around; there is no user input whatsoever (hence 'blind') and will be an instant brick for every system other than the AW17.
     
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    Can you suggest me a programmer that works with alienware will Ch341a work and if you can provide link to that fancier model
     
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    Hey when i connect my bios chip using tester to programmer the light of power goes off