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    First Gen i7 video card

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by meh_, Apr 14, 2020.

  1. meh_

    meh_ Notebook Enthusiast

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    will the 260M work on the first gen i7 system?

    I have 940XM Extreme edition 16gigitybytes
    150watt psu

    I have a barely can do Standard definition 5870M GPU but the performance sucks it can't even play a 720p60 video on twitch or YT

    while my old 2007 core2duo with a Nvidia 9600m can play 720p60 without issue and almost play 1080p60 at like 56-58FPS


    I just need something to hold me over tell I get a 8750H system i only have 750 out of 1300 saved
     
  2. senso

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    Might be better to sell the AW, given the prices pay to old systems you might get enough to get a much newer laptop..

    And try using the h.264ify extension in your browser, makes at least youtube send video with mp4 extension that your hardware can decode instead of VP9 that is being CPU decoded and thats why its so choppy, its not due to the GPU that you have.
    Not sure if twitch works with h.264ify or if you need to use streamlink( https://streamlink.github.io/streamlink-twitch-gui/ ) that is a program that will function like the twitch website but allows you to also play the video in mp4 format so that your CPU isn't hammered doing VP9 decoding.
     
  3. MrMogwai

    MrMogwai Notebook Evangelist

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    If you really want to keep this m15x going, then yes, it should work. It works with much newer cards, up to 980M/Quadro M5000M with modding drivers, without it should go if memory serves up to 680M.
     
  4. meh_

    meh_ Notebook Enthusiast

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    I only have a 140$ spare money

    I wanted an SSD as well


    new
    Crucial BX500 2.5" 480GB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) CT480
    61$


    GENUINE OEM DELL 240W AC Adapter M17x M4700 M6400 M6500 M6600 PA-9E GA240PE1-00
    USED
    30$

    Dell Alienware M17X nVIDIA GTX 260M 1GB Video Card with Heatsink 96RJ4 096RJ4
    24$
     
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    Heatsink from M17XR2 won't fit, you'll have to use the one you've got in your M15x. Get some proper thermal pads/paste. In one of the threads with similar title I have laid out what needs to be done with your card. You'll also need to either do an angled adapter mod or the PSU mod, if you want to use full potential of your CPU and GPU, 940XM easily eats up more than a 100W (default TDP is 45W plus TurboBoost takes another 60+), so you're left with less than 50W to power up the GPU, which will throttle, as the CPU has priorywhen it comes to power distribution. If m15x recognizes the PSU (via the ID line, center pin) then it allows charging the battery, but also limits the power intake to ~150W. If it doesn't, then it's free game, it can take as much as you want. You can either buy an angled adapter and pull it's pin out (common and easiest way to do it, as long as you have access to the adapters, I don't in Europe), or you can do a switch mod to your PSU (basically opening your PSU, cutting the ID line and adding a switch to it). The second way requires basic soldering skills, but is a bit more convenient (no parts can be lost :) ). And as long as you have soldering iron, the switch costs next to nothing.

    Thinking about it, maybe your video throttling doesn't actually come from the weak GPU, but because of throttling? Like the one I mentioned above? 5870 is I think a 75W card, and if you haven't done any OC to your CPU the default is 45+62W, so there is less than 50W for it to work? Can anyone confirm my hunch?
     
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    i don't have a m15x I wanted to get a used nvidia 260m it also included the heatsink..

    to hold me over as the nvidia chip has video off load unlike the newer ATI counter part... that is how it's able to play pack 720p60 smoothly

    that is why i was going to order a 240watt power cable i need to replace mine anyways as the insulation came off
     
  7. MrMogwai

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    Edit, my bad, I was so sure this is the m15x thread ;) yeah, it should work no problem then.
     
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    For performance on the peanuts consider the firepro m6100 otherwise aim up to like a R9 290x or something along the lines though if one can score a Quadro m3000m it would be a decent choice if you don't mind suffering the chore of modding the drivers.
     
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    With M17xR2 there will most likely be problems with display on M3000M. Firepro I can also recommend, although I'm not sure it will be 24$ cheap.
     
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    I reinstalled the drivers to an older version
    8.911.0.0
    looks like AMD sabotaged the performance on the newer driver it's able to play 1080p60 with only a 1 or 2 frame drop here and there.. instead of lagging video

    that is a good business model sabotage all your old video cards so people will buy newer ones :eek:
     
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  11. MrMogwai

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    All companies do it, sadly. That's the problem with rampant capitalism, where you sell good quality devices you have to make them less attractive or faulty somehow... Apple does that by sabotaging design, so it fails by itself in a year or by releasing a device update that makes the device so slow it's unusable, hardware manufacturers, where they pump out a new card every couple of months they need you to experience slowdowns so you get new machine. Buy, buy, buy! That 0.1% performance increase is all you need to have fulfillment in life. It only costs both your lungs, but who cares?

    I've rambled on the matter in another topic, let's not let the bitterness spread ;)

    Anyway, newer drivers often open up new features, but in most cases they do create a slowdown or efficiency drop, same with OS updates.
     
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    i popped in the Windows 7 restore Disk (ordered SSD drive) go figure it says to "insert disk"


    lucklly i have a USB drive i hope i can use that i herd cloning drives does not work very well

    i also got a new power cable 240 watts as sometimes it will drop to the battery the insulation was coming off this is poor quality insulation even my NES power cable still has its insulation and it's 35 years old
     
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    You can’t expect a company to support its products indefinitely. Your hardware is going on a decade old. There comes a point where one can be penny wise but pound foolish. For little more than you were planning to dump into your aged laptop, you could buy a whole new one that would blow it away in terms of performance and usability.


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    yeah but if you are going to put a final one out make sure it works correctly..

    i just got the power cable and SSD drive..

    i have no choice but to replace the power cable.. dont want a fire.
    i plan to replace it soon with the 9750H or 8750h 17" system
     
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    Another user got two 980m running in sli after modding a panel from an xps (6bit connection) and it worked despite being power limited. Did have op in mind when I made the comment.
     
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    AMD never cared much for their mobility cards driver wise so you are in tough luck, I know its possible to hack Crimson drivers to work with Terascale GPU's and you can actually play games like GTA V with relative good framerate.