Just curious what they think...
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I'm probably going to give Windows 8 a miss. It looks great for tablets and other socially orientated devices but not for me. Lack of a start button doesn't seem to sit too well with me. I might consider it when utilities come out for it that allow the end user to ignore Metro completely.
If it offers new things like DX12 or something I'm not that fussed. As I recall, DX11 was a Win7 exclusive but an update came out for Vista that gave it accesses to DX11 as well.
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^^ I think windows 8 is for tablet environment and they will keep windows 7 for pc environment anyway
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Yeah I like to keep my computer simple and with all those social tablet additional thingies it does not appeal to me at all. But ofcourse if people who tried it writes some info we can get more insight.
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I will be loading it on my w500 tablet tomorrow, if you want a brief view of it, I can post it in a few days, I cant spare any laptops for now but may try kicking it on my m9750 next week
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:thumbup: Thanks @KCETech1.
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I'm running the consumer preview right now. I'm getting extremely low fps on aion. I'll give some more info after a while.
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I downloaded it, but I need to find some time to get everything setup in a virtual machine and running efficiently.
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I didn't use virtual pc. I took one for the team. I'm going to revert to windows 7 right now. It's to buggy for me. White screens at login forces me to restart several times. Aion is giving me 10fps and random black screens of death and freezes. They're bugs that can be ironed out later on. As of the OS, I really love the look and and the apps design. I
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Thanks for talking one for the team. +rep'ed
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We loaded it up on an old Thinkpad T61 at work today. What were they smoking when they came up with that interface? I was trying to navigate around in there to try some things out. It's like poking yourself in the eye with a sharp stick.
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I downloaded and installed it on my M17. Perfect timing actually because I need to reinstall my OS anyway (having trouble with shut downs on battery power and I can't fix it).
So far it is interesting, but hardly impressive. I have not expereinced any crashes or bugs, but I haven't gamed on it yet. The lack of a touch interface makes the main user expereince largely unless to us. It took me almost 30 seconds just to figure out how to shut down my laptop, and I hope that isn't the only way because it took me like 8-10 clicks or something (normal Windows 7 would be 2 or 3). So far I see no compelling reason to keep it, but I may do my fresh install with Windows 8 just because I am considering switching over to OS X, and I figure I better give Windows 8 a fair shot before I move my entire home network over to Apple stuff (already running 1 iphone, 2 ipads, and a Hackintosh desktop), my M17 is now my only Windows machine.
The install is painless, and it is easy to switch to desktop mode, which makes it just like windows 7, except there is no start button I can find, and that irks me.
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I've installed it on a small partition on my M17x. I'm really surprised by it. I wasn't expecting it to be so different to Windows 7 but the whole Metro UI is just plain weird on a desktop. I really like the look of it but the new UI seems counter intuitive on a desktop. Especially coming from Windows 7 which I think is a very high point for Microsoft as far as a desktop OS.
On a touch screen tablet, I think Windows 8 would work beautifully, no question about it. Keyboard and mouse... different story. The culling of the Start button has also saddened me more than I though it would. The OS seems to run very smoothly and I only had about 34 processes running on idle but at this stage I definitely don't see myself trading Windows 7 for it. -
I installed it on my work laptop, a Studio XPS 1640 and it works very well (not saying I like the Metro stuff...)
I'm not willing to commit my Alienware to testing, but overall the OS seems speedier than Windows 7.
How is it for gaming? have you had any issues with the ATI drivers? is Crossfire working?
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I installed it on a virtual machine. Didn't want the hassle of partitioning a drive just yet.
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Installed in a new partition on my SSD with dual boot, which Win 8 does for you. Working pretty well so far, but difficult to find your way around initially (devil of a time figuring out how to shutdown Win 8 the first time). Gets better quickly. Nvidia 295.73 drivers install easily, look great. WEI makes your components look faster (guessing that they recalibrated the performance indices, at least for some).
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I used a 64GB partition, way more than needed for a look and see, but didn't (and don't) know what else I'll want to install. I still have 40GB free, after installing a few items and copying several GB of images and a movie; 25GB should be doable, but tight, 32GB would be better.
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3dMark11 works fine under Win 8, same scores as under Win 7. GPU-Z and HWINFO64 (including fan applet) seem to be doing well, but CPU-Z identifies the CPU accurately but reports the Bus Speed at 208.4 MHz. So, not perfect but not bad for a new OS, better than I expected.
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Downloading now, I need to do a full re-install of 7 anyway, so I'll play with 8CP for a bit.
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has anyone had any video issues with windows 8? i put it on a VHD and i am having issues upgrading my drivers past the last version of dells for the m17x R1...all the other nvidia installers fail during the driver installation.
basically my problem now is that when SLI is turned on i get constant screen flickering when the lock screen should be shown. my screen remains black seems to be turning off and on forever...
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finally got around to installing win8 on a separate partition. I like some of the features, but its very unintuitive for anybody without a touchscreen. I think ill wait till somebody comes out with a UI mod before thinking about switching over.
here is my WIE score. weird how my SSD and my 6990m best your setup in their respective area's.I ran it with the dell stock drivers, still gotta get the new AMD drivers downloaded and see if it changes anything.
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I liked it, some really good features in Windows 8. Metro was a non issue for me, don't like it, don't use it. Likewise the lack of a start button. just hit the windows key and start searching, I find it quicker and easier than using the mouse. Also win + X to access settings
Big improvements in file copying and windows explorer.
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Well If this gets developed, I might be moving to windows 8 haha, start menu ftw.
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So I have access to a copy of the Windows 8 preview edition. I probably wont fiddle with actually installing it until after I have completed Mass Effect 3 in a few weeks (dont want the likely tons of driver issues messing up what I am hoping will be one of the best games ever), but I was wondering if any of you other well connected/braver people out there in the old Forum here have bothered to install it on a configuration like mine...or any other M17x/m18x. Just curious...
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How big a partition did you everyone install it on?
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The way you guys are describing it...maybe it shouldnt be called Windows 8 if its that different? I mean, if the UI functions so differently wouldnt they benefit by calling it something else like "Windows Next" or some other corporate buzz word/phrase like that? Someone mentioned earlier that they found win7 to be a high point for the MS OS's and I have to agree. I really like most everything about win7 and dont really like the Metro interface (especially when I dont have a touch screen to make the interface function as it was originally designed in the first place). Oh well...they will probably support win7 for at least 5 more years, I'll just stick with that.
Unless they take my advice and give this OS a different name and go back to the drawing board for a new windows 8...which would hopefully not use a UI that was completely intended to be used with touchscreens when it was being designed. But hey, what do I know anyway? I just play video games. -
So basically I decided to download Windows 8 CP last week (I know.. I know.. it's technically a beta) but that's not the issue. It runs fine. It's just that AMD have driver compatibility issues with W8CP.
So my question is this (with specs in the bottom), my temps are running dangerously high, and it's not a question of heatsinks or repasting because those won't help here. It's a question of AMD sucking and screwing with my computer (ie: drivers aren't right). So, will this driver update ( AMD Catalyst Driver for Windows 8 Consumer Preview Release Notes) work for my laptop or is it incompatible? I am currently running on drivers - 8.93.7.0
It's seriously frustrating because my friend with Nvidia graphics card (Alienware as well) is doing fine! And I can' t uninstall, it's like upgrading from Vista to Windows 7 and trying to go back to Vista.. it's hard.
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I've been meaning to try Windows 8 for a while. I need to create a partition first. I'll Have Win 7, Win 8 and Mint on the 160GB SSD. Been meaning to play around with it. We'll see.
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However, it seems Windows 8 was really conflicting with "launch_osd.exe" in which at the start it would literally put an extra 30% onto the cpu usage and speed the fans waaaay up. I force stopped that and fans went back to normal.
However, having done those two things, it seems that my Internet Explorer (beta 10 I believe) is now in some strife in that it barely runs. It's very slow at loading pages, it takes forever to click on something on the page, and trying to type in a web page takes FOREVER. Basically it's uselss. On the other hand, a quick venture to chrome shows that there's no internet/hardware problem.. just an IE problem. So any one have any ideas here? (ran a anti-virus/malware test already, it picked up a few things so I deleted them and it didn't help). Has this issue happened to anyone before (normally or with windows 8?).
Has anyone DL'ed and tried the Windows 8 beta on their M17x's?
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