Ya, I do not know what it does, but it does it well and stresses the hell out of a system lol
And you are stock right now (correct?) imagine if you overvolted the cpus haha
The crysis run I just put up had a low gpu oc because that was in a normal setup (not chest freezer lol) and I was using the screen. So if the gpus were overvolted I would stutter - limiting the OC considerably on them. Power draw is everything with these high end laptops
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Well I meant to say gpus, but ya, CPU too
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To make a fair comparison ( 4870 vs 285), you need to totally downclock your CPU and leave your card at stock speed.
My GTX 280's with the Core 2 Quad Q9000 @ 2.26 GHz get around 25 fps avarage in Crysis benchmark VeryHigh 1900x1200 . So Lozz you must having some issue there, because my Q9000 is crap compared to your i7. -
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I welcome some overclocked GTX 285 results too
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Looking at those crysis benches i would think that the 280's and the 285's should be capable of more... I did some digging through old posts and found my crysis run bak when i had my R1 with the 260's and a t9600 (link below) which yielded higher results.
Granted that was with a decent overclock but still, i thought the 280/285's were meant to have more shaders (and thus more raw performance) to justify the extra £300 they were charging over the 260's way bak when.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
The difference in price is only justified for benchers usually, in games they would perform similarly. In theory though, yes more shaders=more raw performance
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Correct if I am wrong but isn't the 285m meant to be faster than the 4870m? and the full use of the 285m's PhyX won't be used unless buildings and such are being destroyed :/
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Nvidia would like the GTX 285m to be all around faster, but it is only faster in games that lack optimization for ATI. The 4870s have much more performance on paper and often have more performance in real-world usage as well. PhysX adds system overhead even when buildings are not being blown up. Depending on the game, things like water, dust, smoke, debris, explosions are all handled by PhysX. This also creates overhead for the CPU as well as GPUs and also adds another layer of software into the mix.
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well, I had it up to 29.63fps on crysis @ 720/1800/1100, I wish I had taken a screen shot because now evga precision and afterburner just freeze the computer whenever I try to run either. reinstalled both mutliple times and even reinstalled nvidia drivers, can't think of what might be going on at this point. Going to give nvidia system tools a shot.
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Aight, I am concerned for my FPS as its just been hanging around 20 in Crysis.....
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
list your system specs and we can help you diagnose it (I recommend putting them in your sig)
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system tools worked, but for whatever reason now, the crysis tool will not display average fps at the end of the benchmark
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I did a benchmark at 1280 x 1024 as my Ext monitor was just being horrible. Black bars @ 1920 x 1080p and the results are very meh.
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So Lozz, what is the conclusion on these cards after a few days of having them? Are they worth it compared to the 5870CF?
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thats nothing, I guess my cpu s holding me back too. In Batman Arkham Asylum i got like 7 fps jump in avarage performance, thats a lot for so little overclocking. I need a faster CPU
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I am running crysis stock but not confident in the result as I am pretty sure I broke my 2nd 4870. I posted a video in the benchmark thread so you can see what I mean.
Will update in a minute with the results though....
UPDATE: Here it is but again, I am not confident in it because my 2nd 4870 is definitely broken so may not be working correctly/to its full potential
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this is my Crysis benchmark, with the GTX 280M stock. The avarage fps is 25,475 ... I don't know why the benchmark tool is not showing properly, but it is ok, because it is ( fps test 2 + fps test 3)/2 in this case (25.31+25.64)/2=25,475 ...
scook9 maybe those 2,435 fps of difference you have to your favor are because the QX9300 vs Q9000 (2.26 GHz) .. twice cache, and 270 MHz faster. I don't really think your second 4870 is broke, because there is no way only one 4870 can beat two GTX 280M in SLI.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I know the card is working - just not well. I am simply thinking that the flickering (apparently same as the 5870s used to have) is possibly causing the frame rate to be lower than it could be
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well, it looks like my cards are already toast.
I noticed that SCII was artifacting slightly on stock clocks and shut it down for a bit, after attempting to boot back up it wouldn't even get to the desktop before the screen just started to flash (similar to SLI or crossfire studdering/flashing) I've uninstalled drivers, scandisced and reinstalled windows, and it just will not get into the desktop, it can get into safemode just fine, but refuses to post any further. -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Sounds like a driver problem if safe mode works. Tried the dell drivers I assume?
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was on dell drivers when it happened, uninstalled drivers via safe mode and it did the same thing, for some reason the reinstall has worked, for now. Haven't installed Dell drivers yet.
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That would be painful if they had already broke
Currently in contact with AW about my 5870m's getting SEVERE artefacts. At least I got a free 3d vantage key out of it all so far
Have you tried vantage Lozz? Interested in the score.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
about 10800 GPU at stock speeds
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edit; rivatuner can't pull the clock speeds correctly off the 285s and won't overclock them at all. Going to see if evga will work this time but otherwise it looks like I'm stuck on system tools -
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Pretty nice OC on those 285m. I'm not going to try to OC my 5870m's yet as they seem a tad hot when I do. So I'll pick up a cooler and then I'm sure I can Oc safely then
I'd like to try an OC on my 720 QM but don't know how far it'll go. I was thinking bringing it up to 2 GHz.
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I'll be continuing my benchmarking on the m17x benchmarking thread for anyone that's interested.
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thank you for doing that
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Are you at that clock at the mo?
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Here it is, GTX 285M SLI benchmarks
Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Lozz, Oct 11, 2010.