How Good is the 120hz if you don't want to use the 3d?

I don't really like to use 3D, for movies or otherwise. I understand that this time it's the real deal and not the gimmick it was in the 80's, but I don't like wearing the glasses for over an hour. So ultimately I don't think I would EVER use it for gaming or watching movies on my M17X.

That said, I've heard that 120hz displays are much better than 60hz displays, but if I won't use the 3d option is it visibly better in 2d than the 2d 60hz? is the 120hz 1920x1080 2d pretty much the same as the 60hz 1920x1080?

I am pretty sure I wouldn't be able to afford getting the 120hz screen even if I wanted to do 3d, but I am curious if I am going to miss out on anything significantly better.

 

My advice is to go with the M17x R2 with an RGB LED screen. That is the ultimate screen with vibrant accurate colours plus you aren't wasting money on 3D you'll never use.

 

The only difference between the 120 Hz and 60 Hz 1080p screens is additional brightness on the 120 Hz screen. Every other spec is identical. I have come to the conclusion myself that this does not make it worth a $500 upgrade for me. If the 580M were the same price as the 6990M, I might go for the $200 screen upgrade though, but $500 is too much.

 

It has better brightness, supposedly better color gamut way better 120hz refresh rate and 3d! AND it doesn't have that stupid anti-glare crap on it like the other two screens do. That anti-glare stuff makes the screen fuzzy, it is no good......luckily this one doesn't have it.

 

I'm looking at it right now, and it's very bright.

One of the nicest screens I've seen.

it absolutely demolishes the screen in my Dell Latitude 6400, but then thats my work laptop and probably had a garbage screen to begin with.

the 120hz screen is very nice, and very bright.

If you don't care for the brightness then your fine either way.

 

The gamut is the same, according to Dell's specs.

I thought they were all glossy reflective screens though. I wasn't aware that the 60 Hz screen had an AR coating. If that's the case I will have to reconsider, though $500 is still a lot of money.

 

wow, applying brakes fast....

So the non 3D screens have an Anti-glare or Anti-reflective coating? This is the first I have heard of it. Was considering my options if I can't get a 120Hz screen with the 580M, have to dig into this deeper now. Thanks for sharing information on comparison of the screens.

 

My 60Hz has no anti-glare coating. It is as glossy as can be. I don't know why someone thinks it does. This is the first I have heard of anyone talking about any M17X having anti-glare coating. Most people in their reviews complain at the fact the screen is glossy and not matte. I prefer glossy over matte any day.

 

Look at the "Anti-Glare" column and you can see that the 120 hz screen is not checked for it.

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And it really isn't anti-glare.........it is a blurriness layer over the gloss and it is still glossy in the end. It kind of looks like a glossy screen with a bad screen protector over it that makes the screen fuzzy/blurry.

 

If I do have that, it doesn't make my screen fuzzy at all. Didn't you complain about you 900p screen being fuzzy?

 

Yeh, it had a uniform fuzziness too it. I also saw someone complain about that with the 1080p 60 hz screen too.

 

I'm pretty sure that problem you had with your screen being fuzzy does not afflict all 60Hz screens, in fact you are the only person I have seen with that problem. So please don't try to convince the OP that all 60Hz screens are fuzzy because that is completely untrue.

 

It is though. There was nothing wrong with my screen (besides dead pixels) and the more I used it, the more I got used to it.

The "fuzziness" which looks kind of like a matte finish at angles can only really be seen when your closer than usual. At decent distances you can't see it at all though.

I am just not going to sugar coat anything with this, because I returned mine.

 

Have you seen the 1080P screen? I have had both the 900P and 1080P screen. If you are talking about the 900P screen you are correct about it being fuzzy, but the 1080P is 10X better than the 900P screen. So if you have not seen the 1080P screen I have no idea why you are advising the OP about it.

 

I currently have the m17x 3D right now and I love the screen. Granted I don't have anything to compare it to, but for non-3D it works fine.

Monitor Hardware ID: Monitor\LGD02C5

The sad thing is that I may have to return this one so I could possibly get the GTX 580 3D when it comes out. I begged and asked, and they won't sell me the card at the POS cost

 

Not once have I looked at my 1080P screen and thought it looked even remotely 'fuzzy'. The 20+ people I've showed the thing off to didn't say anything about it either. There is a difference between 900P and 1080P.

 

I have had both screens side by side and yes the 120hz panel is better hands down. Panels are made by differenc companies I believe and they do not have the same specs as per dell. Brightness is one but the colors etc are much better. I always write that every day I used the non 3d screen I was hitting the Fn+brightness controls to brighten it up and it was already on max. it got annoying. very VERY annoying. Side by side the 60hz on FULL brightness is the same brightness as the 120hz on say 40%. I have some youtube videos up comparing them.
I quickly sold the 60hz r3.

I now have an R2 with RGb and it beats both displays hands down that's a given. it's the 1200p that is keeping me off the new product line still. I am however considering the 17xr3 over the 18 so i can have the 580 with 120. The 580 will be able to push most games to well over 60 fps so i dont think anyone has really been able to comment on a smoothness difference yet.

will 120 hz vs 60hz be noticeable? probably not.

will the brightness be noticeable? probably not unless you have had an rgb or 120hz first or a better screen beside it.

Also thought I'd mention that i NEVER used 3D ONCE in 4 months or so that I used an R3. I put them on and cool the images popped. back in the box.

 

so you never gave 3d actual games a chance? is that supposed to be damning to 3d? just because you didnt even try it?

 

no nothing negative to 3d users in any way was just relating to the op who felt he wouldnt use 3d. I never planned to and the 120hz was worth it imo.

 

ok sorry misunderstood you then

its a nice screen for sure!

p.s.

best game ive seen so far in 3d is 'Trine' superb

 

You can't get the R2 anymore at least not from Dell so you can't get that 25% EPP discount or can you? That is my question to you

 

Well check the outlet section. There might be cheap R2's with the RGB LED.

 

Yes, but keep in mind that they could be scratched. I sent mine back 3 times before I just gave up and bought a brand new system :/

 

In 3D it runs at 120hz. You can adjust the desktop from 60hz (or even 50??) to 120hz in a couple of steps.

Screen itself is very bright, always had it at 50%.

 

you can run 3d down to 100hz i think.

 

Wish they allowed 3d at 96Hz. 48Hz per eye which syncs perfectly with 24fps blu ray movies doing away with all that pulldown nonsense.

 

Not sure why anyone would get this laptop with the low res screen. I thought about adding on 3d but it wouldn't let me even choose it without going to Nvidia and the 580M added even more. Happy with the 2d screen option and 6990m.

 

I think the 3D TV's (and possibly some monitors) run at 240 Hz or an even higher multiple of 24. That way you get 120 Hz per eye, with no interpolation required since 24 fps content is just displayed for 5 cycles at a time.