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    How to OC the M17x-R2 using SetFSB

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by 5150Joker, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. 5150Joker

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    Info no longer relevant.
     
  2. cookinwitdiesel

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    I would not call that obvious, but it IS very clever

    Congratulations! :)
     
  3. Lozz

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    well, obvious to someone that's familiar with setfsb, otherwise it's not too hard to pick out 2 different patterns. It's not like it's some sort of totally confusing random numbers. However I agree, not obvious to humans. [​IMG]


    That said, thanks joker, I'll try this on my i7 720 here shortly (gotta eat first hehe)

    also, I apologize if it seemed as though I was inferring any wrong doing on your part in this matter. This was not totally my intention and during the last posts I was simply attempting to insert some comedy into a situation that was becoming ugly very quickly. That being said, is it surprising it was said? Even though I've only been apart of this community a few months, even I recognize that people in this forum when left with small fantastic tidbits of information will speculate every conceivable possibility and then pick which they like best. To which, they will somehow convince themselves that said speculation is the truth, without any evidence to support it. Even I myself am guilty of such in arguments you and I have had.
     
  4. 5150Joker

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    My track record speaks for itself on these forums. I'm not in the business of making things up just for the hell of it. Anyway, I'd like to see if non-extreme CPU's benefit from this.
     
  5. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    if the 720qm can be oc'd this way, it will be the new Q9000 in the sense that it will be the value cpu to have
     
  6. Lozz

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    it looks to be locked. I can't even get the program to read the PLL control registers, even the 'set fsb' buttons are grey'd out. Unless I'm missing something? All I need to do is set the clock generator and hit get fsb right?
     

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    Use setFSB 2.2.134.98
     
  8. 5150Joker

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    Yah it should load them when you press get fsb. It's possible that the bios doesn't make that information available to the program for non-extreme cpu's. See if you can manually enter the addresses.
     
  9. Lozz

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    The set FSB button has come up, but the registers are still not loading up.
     
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    well...mine isn't exactly like yours, but i can change part of it.
    went from 2527 to 2533 where it's suppose to be from the start! dame gateway!lol


    plus rep for joker!
     
  11. SAUCE

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    He was using the shareware version so unless he payed abo its locked.The free version works fine.
     
  12. 5150Joker

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    Oh ok, I'll make note of the version in the post so people don't get the shareware one.
     
  13. Lozz

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    I'm still locked :/
     

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    Try some different clock generators.
     
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    did you turn your computer completely off first?
    then try it?
     
  16. Lozz

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    I've frozen the computer a couple times now (and hard restarted) trying different PLL's. ;)

    I'l try some more tonight however.
     
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    you dont need to choose any pll's.
    if it's going to work, you should be able to set it to pll diagnostic and hit get fsb.
    if you cant get anything to come up then...then...there might be a sight problem....
     
  18. Tristan

    Tristan Garrosh Did Nothing Wrong

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    Wow I've missed a lot. When I get home I'll try to do this as well...as long as I overcome my fatigue :D

    I hope your post doesn't get deleted, me-instructions = boom
     
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    Well this is what i see.Not going to mess as i am on a huge dl right now don't want a lockup ;)
     

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    Nice, seems to be working for you. ;)
     
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    Joebarchuck Notebook Virtuoso

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    Does that mean you guys are able to use setfsb to OC non XM processors?
     
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    Yeah looking good. ;)
     
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    If Sauce is seeing the registers then chances are very good he can change them and OC. Hopefully his download finishes soon so he can verify. BTW you know what prompted me to even look into all this? Our last PM. :D
     
  24. Lozz

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    yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing. It's not working. :(
     
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    Well if something good comes out of this a lot of people are going to be happy.

    Can't wait for the results and I am glad our talk lead to this.
     
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    Nice, what clock did you manage? Screnshots FTW! :)
     
  27. Lozz

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    What?!?!?!
    :cry:
     
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    im wanting to try this so bad..... waiting on my key for setfsb blah
     
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    You don't need the shareware version. Get the one I linked in my post and have a go at it.
     
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    yeah i had done that and got nowhere i was hoping that the other version would unlock it. i have the same issue that lozz has, =(
     
  31. Tristan

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    Oh darn, i thought you go my telepathic message :D
     

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    Well I'm done, I've tried with turbo boost disabled, I've tried a diagnostic startup(basic services and no startup apps). I've tried a couple different clock gens(~36 ) and the registers are just not coming up. I believe my R2 is a bit newer then Jokers and a few other peoples in here, so that may be a factor. To be clear however, all I'm doing is starting the software, selecting the clock generator and hitting SetFSB under the diagnosis tab. Any adjusting of the bars results in instant freeze, although that was probably clear before hand. I even downloaded from the server joker linked in his post instead of the site I originally downloaded 2.2.134.98 from.
     
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    We're supposed to adjust the bars? I didn't do that
     
  34. Lozz

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    no, you're supposed to adjust the offset numbers below, I can't, because they're not there..
     
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    I think your system is actually a little older than mine. I just recently got this exchange unit in last week. I don't know if that could be the reason. It's weird how bluekornchips works fine but yours doesn't.
     
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    Nice one, see if you can push it higher to around 1.8 ghz.
     
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    Do you think the reason some are having issues is the BIOS version that is installed? I assume Joker is on A05, Lozz, what are you on?
     
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    BTW, just a general warning only - if you are going to use the route joker outlined, remember that if something goes horribly wrong, Dell will not honor the warranty as it is using a method outside of the BIOS OC options. BSOD's and such will not be supported. Just a thought... ;)
     
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    It's also largely untested. I can only confirm it works on mine but others have been hit and miss.
     
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    I am just amazed how i don't visit this thread for like 15 hours and see what joker has done! Awesomeness and also using setfsb on a better machine with so much better cooling. Well i do agree that the i7 720 is truly becoming like the Q9000. I got mine overclocked to 2.3 ghz its a bottleneck, but again its not fully tested and computers do break on their own your know wink wink lolz. See if you can push up the i7 720 to 3.2 ghz like the Asus owners did on the G73JH now that would be awesome there is a guide on the G51JX how to use Setfsb for that machine with the same processor.
     
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    Unfortunately about 50% of the people that tested so far can't get it to work right. I'm going to have to contact abo to see if he can finally make it 100% workable for everyone.
     
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    I wonder who ABO is, also try to contact Betaflame as he was the first one who discovered the BLCK and announced how much he overclocked it so high, yeah i can only overclock the Q9000 using Ntools, still trying to get my R2. Well i wish everyone good luck with this, and hopefully no bricked machines always overclock in increments. Its even hard to get the clock generator to work with this processor. Why did dell lock the processor slow low anyway? It sucks that the R1 is awesome in terms of everything is unlocked in Ntools but not with the R2... well completely.
     
  43. I am gamer

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    Hey.. I can change clocks with Amd gpu clock tool.But it just lowers the poor fps even worse?? My game performace has become very poor so i checked clocks as they say( while gaming) around 300/400?? Gpu z when i check the log it has not gone past this. Vantage now give me around 3000p. Ive checked all settings and stealth mode off, high performance and so on... L4d 2 gives me 15 fps( same settings as my single 4870= 40 fps). So is the machine looked on battery performance or what?? Can it be faulty cards, bios or reinstall the OS? Advises is apreciated. Thanks everybody for this fantastic forum
     
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    well, it seems to be working on my rig with 820qm.
    Thank you joker and ++rep for the find.

    Here's the proof :

    Before
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    After
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    I haven't tired fooling around with it too much, it does lock up when i change 0F register to 95 as joker suggested.
     
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    Awesome, glad it worked for you mfractal! Yeah when you lower the 0f register, the bclk goes up rather quickly and you can get lockups. It's better to stick with 98 and adjust register 10 instead.
     
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    i'll experiment more later.
    i suspect that those who weren't able to make it work were choosing the wrong pll, there's just too many of them :D
     
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    To be fair to them, I did try it on another M17x with an i520 in it and the PLL didn't work either. I think Dell is using more than one type of motherboard for these systems. The other M17x is just as new as mine.
     
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    and mine is from the first batches. Weird...
     
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    Yeah it's strange and the only explanation I can think of is that Dell uses more than one kind of PLL chip. Usually companies like Dell have multiple vendors for a single part so it's possible that they all have the same specifications with slight variations like the PLL chip used. It would explain why it's sort of a crap shoot right now.
     
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    In any case there are chances it might work, it's better than nothing...
    I have a question though.
    The CPU frequency = BCLK x CPU multiplier
    I see mfractal's cpu-z screenshot and before the setfsb he has 133 x 20 = 2660
    After the value is 143 x 9 = 1287

    My question here is, does this affect the intel speedstep and turbo mode and somehow locks the multipliers as well?
    Can the setfsb manipulate multipliers is an non extreme edition CPU?
     
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