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    How to OC the M17x-R2 using SetFSB

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by 5150Joker, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. Ryan

    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    This works, haha.

    Thanks Joker, +rep!

    1 Question, how do you make this setting permanent?

    Do I have to press the set FSB button to make it firm?
     
  2. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    you would have to write a script to do it every time you boot
     
  3. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    I searched high and low for that one PLL and it was the only one I could find as well :/

    I am half blind though :(

    Sorry if I misled any one
     
  4. cleverpseudonym

    cleverpseudonym PG RATED

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    Overclocked
    http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5111/ocde.jpg
    http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1442/stock06.jpg
    Stock
    here is the 3d06 runs. respectable. im anxious to see what i can get when i through the 820 in here.. ill put up my lame vantage scores tomorrow, i can second the oc gpu cards causes a LARGE dip in cpu score in vantage. my 3d scores were usually in the 15600 range when i oc'd the ATI cards. so pretty decent gain with the modest oc on the i5.....ahh i feel whole again
     
  5. jubbing

    jubbing Notebook Deity

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    I'm liking how good this score can be even with a i520! Can't wait to test it out on the 940XM
     
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    Been busy so never had a chance to play with setfsb until today.So clock generator @ ICS9LPRS365BGLF hit get fsb in diagnosis,First edit 00h from 21 to 29 in Hex box then hit update,Then edit 0C from value 0D to 20 hit update,Then edit 0F from value D8 to 95 hit update,Then edit 10h value 31 to 34 hit update.Then i hit apply & it either bluescreens or freezes.Tried values 31 right up to 34 for 10h same bluescreens or freezes.What am i doing wrong :confused:
     
  7. Lozz

    Lozz Top Overpriced Dell

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    he's only got two cores to worry about, so naturally he's going to be able to overclock more. :)

    I only managed 156mhz before BSOD'ing(with all voltages to maximum). Thinking one of my cores is just weak past that speed.
    http://img195.imageshack.us/i/64488537.jpg/
     
  8. jubbing

    jubbing Notebook Deity

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    Hm yea I see that. Its not too much better than the i520 scores. There's more to it I'm sure.

    He can pretty much free bench with that laptop, as its going back to Dell soon.

    Not to mention that when better driver's come out.. they can't hurt the scores.
     
  9. Lozz

    Lozz Top Overpriced Dell

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    yeah, like 4 threads vs 8 for instance. He has a bunch of clock speed on me, which is why he edged me out @ 4ghz lol, and the other i5 lost even with 500mhz on my i7. The problem Is I just have more silicon to overclock. It's why modern over clocking mainboards have the ability to clock the individual cores at different speeds. Some just bake out before others. Although as Wprime shows, we both ended up with approximately the same performance in multi-threaded applications. I ended up with near 920XM speeds though, so I'm happy :)
     
  10. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Check out the Wprime score for my 940xm. Lozz, you should switch over to WPrime 1.55, it doesn't take as long to load as the newer Wprime does.
     

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  11. Lozz

    Lozz Top Overpriced Dell

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    you suck!! D=


    I can't get mine to stop throttling.. 2.03ghz down to 1.87ghz... Time to whip out the 12VDC fan.


    edit:
    lawl, I acutaly scored higher running 4 threads in Intel Burn test than 8 :/ (because it wouldn't throttle as much)
    LAME.
     
  12. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Yeah less strain on the cores with just 4 threads. The new SetFSB is nice, I setup a shortcut with the new command line options and have it to start with Windows in silent mode. Now my system is OC'd to 2.4 GHz on stock voltage 24/7 and it's 100% stable :D
     
  13. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Wow, that's some action, Joker!
    I'd love to join the club but am a bit short on free time here.
    Will surely be back at some point to see how high can my 8 40QM OC'. ;)
     
  14. Lozz

    Lozz Top Overpriced Dell

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    I ment to ask ABO, but do you have to enter your 'registration' code every time you start it up?
     
  15. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Nope, just the one time. I tried reinstalling it on another PC and it generates a new code so the key he sent won't work. Copying the files over doesn't work either, he built a protection into it where it recognizes that. I tend to format my PC pretty often so I hope I don't have to keep e-mailing him for keys.
     
  16. yuzumi

    yuzumi Newbie

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    Hey guys! Can someone explain me? I just don't understand how you do to o/c the cpu. I have setfsb, when i chose the pll ICS9LPRS365BGLF, and chose get FSB and then i just do set fsb, My comp freeze o_o.
    I have an alienware m17xr2 and a i7 720qm
     
  17. TheCodeBreaker

    TheCodeBreaker 7H3 1337

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    Its on the first page of this thread
     
  18. yuzumi

    yuzumi Newbie

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    Right, Soz xD, i started to read @ the page 9 >_<. Thanks :)
     
  19. DaneGRClose

    DaneGRClose Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hey Joker what would you think of adding a section in your OP for what seems most stable based on the results from each user for each CPU type? As this thread gets longer it may prevent questions from people who don't read the whole thread like "what can I set my xxxxx to?"
     
  20. TheCodeBreaker

    TheCodeBreaker 7H3 1337

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    It can vary from user to user, because each CPU can OC better than the others. But i think you mean, whats the higest OC for each cpu, which can help
     
  21. DaneGRClose

    DaneGRClose Notebook Virtuoso

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    Maybe both the highest reported, and the number that has proven most stable. For instance with the Q9000 in the R1 there were people all over the place but 1285 fsb seemed stable on nearly everyone. Something like that that would be a good place to start type of a deal with the settings for SetFSB. I just think it would eliminate a lot of noob questions, and questions from people who won't read the whole thread.
     
  22. DaneGRClose

    DaneGRClose Notebook Virtuoso

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    So now that I got my new replacement system(specs in the sig) I've done a bunch of benching to check performance/stability and to see what this thing is capable of. Here's my results for the i7-820qm in it:

    Max stable clock I could push it to was 1.98 GHz base clock up from 1.73 about a 15% OC.

    The setting limits I found were 00/00 at 29, 0C at 20 of course. Then I could set 0F at 98 and 10 between 31-37 any more on 10 or less on 0F and it BSOD'd. I could also set 10 on 34 and 0F between 96-98 any less on 0F or more on 10 with that combo and I got a BSOD. Running benchmarks(WPrime) with each setting I got better scores with the 0F-98 10-37 combo. I got as low as mid 14's on WPrime 32m with that combo. Just thought I'd throw an update up.

    Oh and I got this bad boy as high as 2.12 GHz once and while it wouldn't crash it was jittery/stuttering, was not stable enough in my opinion, and as soon as I lowered the settings a bit it threw a BSOD. If anyone has any questions or wants screen shots let me know.
     
  23. cleverpseudonym

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    i posted in the benchmark thread, but i got my i5-540m stabl3 @ 4.021ghz. ran sub 15 wprime with it.....thanks to Joker & Lozz for this pm for your paypal addys and ill make good on my word
     
  24. 5150Joker

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    That's cool man I don't need money :) I do this for the community and I'm glad to help.
     
  25. jubbing

    jubbing Notebook Deity

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    I'll take it :p
     
  26. Lozz

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    word, if we needed the money, we wouldn't have spent 3-4K on a laptop. :D
     
  27. tuenkamen

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    hmm just read through this thread very interesting. im wondering how would i find the pll on my system if someone can point me in the right direction ill post it to help the M15X crew.
     
  28. Lozz

    Lozz Top Overpriced Dell

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    basically, it should either be by the PM55 or processor. After that you need to find a small IC crystal that says 14.318(khz). the Clock generator should be near by that crystal.
     
  29. tuenkamen

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    so i have to pull the motherboard out right?

    EDIT: i know stupid question just im moving the next few days so i don't want time taking my laptop apart fully etc. until im moved probably next week i could have this found out.
     
  30. Lozz

    Lozz Top Overpriced Dell

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    I'd look to see what you can look at first, the M15x has a huge access panel that opens up most of the laptop. If you don't see it there then yes, you will have to. I removed my mainboard in my M17x when I was looking for it, however now that I know where it is, all I have to do is remove the magnesium plate, which is 1/3 the work, and doesn't involve a full mainboard removal.
     
  31. tuenkamen

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    yea ive gone into that panel enough to not see not much details of parts numbers etc. as i just replaced the thermal paste a few days ago(MX-3).
     
  32. goodstone

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    Just been playing around with these settings thanks DaneGRClose. Just noticed when indexing my system 820qm with turbo boost widget on. My max turbo speed reached 3.30ghz. Is this right cossidering max on 820qm is 3.06. Got mine stable at 1976 using setfsb. Now i wish i could turn the other 2 cores off and reach 4.0ghz like the others with dual core i7.

    Great work though

    Ant
     
  33. DaneGRClose

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    Goodstone can you also open up CPU-Z and tell me what your FSB is showing? I didn't have much time this morning but it looked like the Turbo Boost gadget didn't read correctly to me. It sounds pretty close to acurate, but is most likely running 1 core at that speed not two the chip runs 1 core at the 3.06ghz clock stock not 2 it's a bit lower running 2, I would either need to have more time to check it out on my own system or know what CPU-z is showing to make sure.

    In theory you could turn the cores off but the only problem is the 4.0ghz is something that wouldn't run stable on this chip even at 1 core. They are designed differently to run stable at higher clocks, our chips on the other hand are designed to run lower clocks on a greater amount of threads.
     
  34. QuadX

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    I'm running the 940xm at standard BIOS OC (150mv & 5%) and these are my temps:

    Idle: ~55
    Load: ~90

    Are these temps high for the 940xm?
     
  35. QuadX

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    The new version of SetFSB (6/28/10) supports our mobo. Just select Clock Gen: ASUS G73JH (at the very bottom of the list). Now its just a matter of moving the slider...yeehaa
     
  36. Joebarchuck

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    Why did Abo choose to write Asus g73jh instead of M17X? :)
     
  37. Lozz

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    I wouldn't say it 'supports it' It's the same PLL that you select in 2.2

    afaik, the G73 doesn't have a locked bios, he already had the datasheet for it too.
     
  38. jubbing

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    So out of curiosity, if the bios isn't locked, whats the HIGHEST Asus vantage/06 score?
     
  39. 5150Joker

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    They have a benchmarking thread in the Asus forum somehwere. I think the highest was around 9k GPU. Still slower than what people with M15x's have gotten and a lot lower than the M17x.
     
  40. The_Moo™

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    The cards were lower quality wich resulted in lower overall possible overclocks
     
  41. refusedchaos

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    im lost...
     
  42. SAUCE

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    Buy a compass or a gps ;)
     
  43. cookinwitdiesel

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    I do not have an R2 and have not read this whole thread, but I am going to stab around in my R1 and see if I can use this method to go past the 1333 MHz BIOS limit on the FSB

    I will report back with my findings :)

    Update: after a while of playing with it (or trying to) it is looking like the nvidia chipsets are a no-go for setfsb :( Guess it is just back to pumping the multi to the moon for me :(
     
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    scook9 if you have a Nvidia chipset you maybe able to overclock your cpu with Nvidia system tools
     
  45. Lozz

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    yup, I believe that's the only thing (except for the GPUS) you can change with system tools.
     
  46. cleverpseudonym

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    or throttle stop =)
     
  47. jubbing

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    So.. 10 bucks says Dell never fixes any problems. Ever. Hip Hip hooray for a backward faced society, where the customer is always last. I miss the good ol' days.
     
  48. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Dell has fixed quite a bit of issues but nit all
     
  49. jubbing

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    Problem being that with every fix comes new problems. That shouldn't happen is all I'm saying.

    Between Joker and I, we had a few replacements.. problems with everyone. If QC goes out the window.. what is left? Think about it Dell.. if you put more cash into training your staff, improved QC, then they wouldn't have to send out so many machines are replacements.

    Getting back to topic, I don't know how much I'm going to be OC'ing... it won't be like my m15x which I found very easy to OC.
     
  50. cookinwitdiesel

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    You cannot access nvidia system tools with ATI cards installed, so I would have to boot with the 9400m and then that is only good for CPU benches

    Nevermind the additional strain that the 9400m introduces as well as choking memory bandwidth :(
     
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