How to overclock the QX9300 processor on the new M17x?

Yup didnt think of that lmao, no bios options for me so I didnt think about it having to boot up. Last bios supported oc i had was a slot 1 lol.

Doubt he really needs to go past 2.9 though all of us want to take it to the edge. I would kill for a 2.9 quad at this point. Could go with the max multiplier he has stable and then use cpugenie plus set fsb to try and go further I have a feeling thats just a mess.

 

Why does this sound familiar.. sure hope same voltage problems dont come up as with the arima.. seams you cpu is a bit weaker.. 3.06 is confirmed.. youre just a tad lower.. 3.2 anyone? You cant burn you cpu it just wont start if its not getting enough juice thats it..

 

now since i last did bios o/c if you did that you had to reset your bios with either a jumper or by pulling the battery.

Is it different on an AW laptop?

 

TBH i don't have good experiences with clockgen/setfsb, i remember of using clockgen and setfsb when i was trying to break the 1:1 overclock @ air WR to don't need to reboot every time i change a ram settings (who had a dfi nf4 knows how much options it was... Like 15-18 lol) but later i noticed that some higher clocks doesn't get stable when i did in setfsb but does when i do in bios...

If ppl can't get higher than 3.06 (it was the max i saw here) the premium for QX9300 isn't going to make much sense IMHO (even for QS)... If ppl get near 2.7 with Q9000 (like in Asus W90) in definitively going to Q9000 .

I'm just curious if the M17x motherboard locks PCI-E bus when increasing FSB... But we will need to wait someone start doing some FSB overclock to know

 

Thanks I will actually keep that in mind if i manage to get a Penryn quad system. Im waiting until the next generation comes out before my next machine, probably going asus but if The M17x gets a nice refresh around that time i think it will be within the next budget.

Not sure on that, on myne the pci-e clocking is seperate and is not affected by the fsb overclock. I havent had the option to overclock any other way with this so I have no way of comparing. But so far I seem to be able to overclock the bus the same speed and each of the cpu's dont mind it at all (P7450, P8600, T9600). Mainly limited by my rams unwillingness to go past 920 Mhz. I really thing what I need is higher ram voltage, dont think enthusiast ram will go where i need at 1.8v

 

one norm i've noticed here is that except for ClutchX2 and one other 'high-post'/exp'ed member, it's only the newer members (like me and many others) who are going for the quad core QX9300. add to that the general consensus that quad is not utilised well for gaming and a dual with a higher freq would be better (and then overclocked some more).

so my only real hope for gaming is:

• the QX9300 can be OCed to 3.2 GHz
• games can be set to run on the 2nd cpu (core 3 & 4) with all windows/other programs on the 1st (using cpu affinity if that works)
• if quad gaming performance is bad, disable the 2nd cpu

ps: single purpose for me, for this rig - gaming; mostly FPS but not limited to that.

 

Only two games I have right now that need a quad for real is GTA4 and World in Conflict. Only other things I would benifit from a quad on the day to day is compression, encryption and especially triple cascade encrypting drives.... lol

Everything else at this point the T9600 at 2.8 to 3.2 Ghz is fine for me. But its obvious with the way physics and AI are going quad core is becoming a necessity.

 

quad are nice but to me they are useless. But thats only because i don't full utilize them to make the purchase worth it for me.

You should be able to get a higher overclock then that.....

use CPU z and report your voltage ...(1.36 i think or 1.63?)

 

Core VID is : 1.275v


I been messing around some more and I brought the multiplier back up to 11.5 (3.06) and I have 3D Mark06 running.

Hmmm, doesn't seem to be crashing now... why would it fail over and over last night, but seem to be stable now?
I've done nothing differently..... Oh wait, nevermind BSOD as I am writing this.

So it appears that by going into Bios and simply changing the multiplier (No fsb changes at all, still at 1333, 1066)
I can't go higher than 11 (2.93) this is a shame, anything I can do to break the 3.0 limit???

 

Nothing at all.. its your limit it seams.. shame though.. not much improvement from the m17 with 3ghz max confirmed on this lappy.

 

Are you running under any kind of power saving mode? Specifically Stealth Mode which can downclock your CPU's voltage.

There's only been a couple of Voltages posted but they don't seem to be consistent. Mandrake for example got more power reported going to the CPU in Win7 then he did in Vista.

Also I believe Morgotth said he was able to get his QX9300 up to 3.2Ghz. Would need him to verify that though.

 

How do I make certain there are no power saving modes active?

On the taskbar the Nvidia SLI thingy appears and I have that set to boost performance.

Anything else I should be checking?

Nope, went into power options, everything is on Max Performance... no power saving options enabled that I can see.

 

what score did you get in 3dmark06 oc'd?

 

I'll run it again to confirm... it was 14K+
Nothing groundbreaking.

UPDATE: With everything else STOCk (SLI 280m's not overclocked) my 2.53 bumped up to 2.9 gives me a score of 15414...
Better, but I know these things should go higher!

 

ouch thats lower then m17's

 

Try out same gaming benchmarks.. 3dmark06 is outdated and vatage gives ad-vantage to physx..
crysis (high and very high)
l4d
cod5..
Post those up please.

 

3Dmark06 + ATI... What can i say?

 

i just got my laptop and i am currently at 2.93ghz anything higher results in a BSOD

 

This is because most of us who want a QX9300 are going to buy it from eBay for $399 and do a self-installation. Paying Intel's rapeage prices is criminal.

 

Determined to break through this 2.93 barrier
(anything over gives me a BSOD) I started messing around with different combinations of multipliers/FSB.


On stock bios it looks like this:

CPU Freq: 2.5
CPU Multi: 9.5
Mem Freq: 1333
FSB Freq:1066

I changed it to this:
CPU Freq: 3.06
CPU Multi:15.5
Mem Freq: 1333
FSB Freq: 800

Sooo, I now having the qx9300 running at 3.06 and I was able to get through 3D Mark 06 without it crashing!

I don't know how this changes anything and running the above mentioned test gave me results lower than the 2.93 setting using ONLY the multiplier, I'm going to mess some more and see what's going on.

 

Yeah, 3dmark06 seems to favor ATi, while Vantage favors nVidia.

...or a QX9200 (es, and really a Q9200) for $280, which is pretty much a QX9300 with a lower multiplier setting (x9.0 for the QX9200, x9.5 for the QX9300). The QX9200 on ebay now is a steal.

 

Thanks for the help BIGX333,, Raised to 300 FSB 2.2 clock speed no up from 2.0.. all seems stable, and windows vista rating went from 4.9 to 5.9.. lol Not that it means much... Will leave here for a bit and if all is good after a day or so, I will increase a little more.. My goal would be to hit 2.4

btw system properties still shows [email protected] but everest shows 2.219GHz clock speed....

I left mem timing at 1600.. do i need to touch them???

 

No just leave it at 1600

 

kewl.. btw got some rep headed ur way..

 

Totally, i wouldnt pay £900 to AW for a CPU i brought on eBay for £250 and install it myself

I can go to spain for that and play my AW on the Riveria

 

if only i'd thought of that earlier.

it gets a bit worse...the M17x processor options on the dell Singapore site (USD price in italics):

• Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Processor T9550 (2.66GHz/ 1066 FSB/ 6MB Cache) [Included in Price]
• Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Processor T9800 (2.93GHz/ 1066 FSB/ 6MB Cache) [add $567.10 or $47/month-1] (USD: 389.7)
• Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad Processor Q9000 (2GHz/ 1066 FSB/ 6MB Cache) [add $49.22 or $4/month-1] (USD: 33.8)
• Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad Processor Q9100 (2.26GHz/ 1066 FSB/ 12MB Cache) [add $1,020.78 or $85/month-1] (USD: 701.6)
• Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Extreme Mobile Processor QX9300 (2.53GHz/ 1066 FSB/ 12MB Cache) [add $1,377.09 or $115/month-1] (USD: 946.5)

so it would have to be the T9800 if not the QX9300. i'd hate to think i paid 950 USD extra for no gaming improvement over the stock CPU or 550 USD extra for less performance than the fastest dual they were offering.

the X9100 @ 3.06Ghz was not an option.

 

some reps sent ur way.

ur specs are identical to mine so i'm really hoping u have some better luck and good news soon. i haven't received mine yet.

 

sad to say that unless u can clock the quad right up in real term gaming performace you wont really notice any difference for your cash

if you can clock it up 3ghz + then ur on the track

 

Who in the world conceived that garbage?

Both benchmarks are unbaised, 3dmark06 score is going to be dependent on your cpu speed. It really should not be used anymore.

 

its not totally based on cpu score that is incorrect

 

I set my multiplier to 11.5 (3.06), it is stable in prime95. I didn't touch fsb or any voltages.

 

Still no 3,2ghz? Come on even the M17 could do 3,2ghz stable..

And Languid.. youre sacrificing fsb speed for multi to get to 3ghz.. that means ram and cpu both downclocked to 800mhz which is actually worse if you left it at 1066 and run the cpu at 2.93.. thats not really progress.

 

u're using the 1333 MHz RAM right? so any experimenting with that? dunno if there are any CPU/volt tables to help you with overvolting or if that's disabled in the stock bios.

 

Is it safe to increase the multi too?
Like, 300 x 8.0? to get 2400?
Or the Q9000 can't do that?

I ain't statisfied with 2200

 

its pretty safe to try most of them, it wont blow up (for the most part )

 

11.5 multi (3.06) BSOD instantly...
Ok, I now have 3.0 stable.
Multi = 11
FSB = 1096
ran 3D Mark 06 twice (15.5K)
and have prime 95 for 20 min stable.

 

jaffAW have any luck with getting that Q9000 up?

 

nice you got past 2.93 ! - i am at that right now ... (2.93)

would the memory have anything to do with it?? 1066 vs 1333 ????

 

No, it's true. Just look at the scores each type of system gets. For instance, a pair of desktop 4870s outscore a pair of GTX 260s in 06, while the latter outscores the former in Vantage (and by a large margin), even though the difference in scores do not correlate to how they perform respectively of eachother.

 

The highest i could get mine stable was 1285 on the FSB in the bios with timings at 1066.

That is basically 2.4 ghz.. anything higher and occt locks 10 minutes into test

 

Didn't get mine yet.

What about heat? No heat problems? 2.4 is good enough. I think I'd be statisfied with it.

What's your settings? I'm gunna use em' when I get it!

 

Heat is good.. no problems.. 46 Celsius and when occt was running it got to 67 Celsius... It ran the full test no errors in occt

just go into bios and the overclocking section... unlink the processor, leave mem timings alone at 1066 and change the fsb to 1285. If you break that down by core that is 321.25 fsb per core.


Yes I am very happy with 2.4.. especially since i didnt think i would be able to over clock in the bios to begin with.. i am ok.. 2.5 would have been nice but no biggie.

 

Here are the cpuid readings

 

Question to someone with more OC knowledge than me: Shouldn't FSB RAM ratio be 1:1?

 

Depends on the chipset and the memory used. Some of them set it at 1:1 (like the Arima W840Di with the PM45) while other chipsets have it like 3:2 or something like that (like the Asus W90 with the X38). The latter setup makes it a lot easier for CPU overclocking.

 

Yeah, it's not always a benefit. When you run RAM at a higher FSB, the timings get slower.

So it is not always a good idea to match FSB to RAM.

 

Interestingly enough though (and I forgot to add this in my previous post), some systems have the ability to use XMP (Extreme Memory Profiles), which essentially gives you the ability to deviate from a 1:1 FSB RAM ratio. The W840Di has this (if using the OCZ BIOS). I'm not sure if the M17x has this ability.

Also, you'll need specific memory modules that have unlockable/customizable profiles. The only two I know that are made in DDR3 SODIMM form are from Kingston and OCZ.

 

kilthro's CPUID shows an 11:18 ratio. Is that acceptable or is there something he needs to tweak?

 

Can I still OC with RAM 1066??? If its possible whats the max I can go. Is ther any advantage/disadvantage to OC with 1066RAM rather than 1333?? i' totally new to OC section though.

Appreciate all the responses.

 

Nothing need to be tweaked... This BIOS is using divisors to lock the ram clock so you don't need to worry about your ram holding your back.

2-3 years ago running FSB - RAM gave u a performance boost but this days theres no reason to run 1:1 at all.

And no you can't change multipliers in non extreme CPU's because only extreme CPU's have unlocked multipliers (nothing with bios or anything).