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    M17X R2 - USB 3 express card

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Hijakd, Oct 21, 2011.

  1. Hijakd

    Hijakd Notebook Geek

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    Hey guys I am getting one of those Coolermaster SF-19 laptop coolers and am stuck picking between the usb 2 and usb 3 models for my R2.

    I have seen these usb 3 express card things and am wondering is it really that simple, we just put that card in the express card slot and we can use usb 3 with this thing?

    After reading some replys on another thread about this I have this weird feeling we need usb 3 compatible hard drives? is that right?

    GAHH these bloody cards also need a external power source.........
     
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    bigelvis Notebook Guru

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    Hijakd Notebook Geek

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    yeah I have been looking at a lot of them.....also checked out a helpfull video on you tube about these so most of my questions are actually answered now......one thing is I have noticed they are saying these will work without a power supply but only at usb2 speeds.

    I have seen some come with a usb power cable.......so let me get this straight instead of powering the express card from the wall, its ok to use a usb 2 port for the power source lmao

    EDIT: Ok this laptop cooler seems awesome with the usb 3 hub....however after thinking about all this I have come to a conclusion about integrating this usb3 into the R2.

    These express cards need additional power to reach speeds 'close' to a native usb3 port. I bet trying to power a usb3 hub (like the one on the SF-19 cooler) from a already under powered express card is a waste of time.

    If you have a m17x R2 and want one of these awesome coolers.....get the usb2 model....save a couple of bucks and miss the headache.

    (just put in the usb3 express card to only use the included 2 ports)
     
  4. Bloodroses

    Bloodroses Notebook Evangelist

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    Hijakd
    Yeah it gets a bit complicated. My CF19 is plugged in, I went with USB 3 because I had a USB 3 external hd dock, native USB 3 ports and a USB 3 Card for other laptops.

    Some USB 3 cards do have a port for external power, others will only recognize devices with external power.

    I had no issues using my USB 3 HD with the SIIG superspeed USB express card since HD dock requires external power.

    The express card was a bit odd with devices deriving power from the port, sometimes I'd have no issues and other times it just wouldn't be recognized.
     
  5. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    If using a regular hard drive you need to have it in a USB 3.0 enclosure to get USB 3.0 speeds. If your using a 5400rpm drive in the enclosure, power won't be an issue. If using a 7200rpm drive you'll need to plug it in for extra power. Some USB 3.0 enclosures come with an extra power cable. I did some tests, and they are linked to my USB 3.0 link in my signature.
     
  6. Bloodroses

    Bloodroses Notebook Evangelist

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    USB 3 express card does a bang up job in my opinion.


    m17x r3 native usb3 port

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    CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
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    * MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

    Sequential Read : 94.654 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 90.084 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 31.574 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 37.437 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 0.368 MB/s [ 89.9 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.804 MB/s [ 196.3 IOPS]
    Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 0.540 MB/s [ 131.9 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.797 MB/s [ 194.6 IOPS]

    Test : 2000 MB [E: 85.4% (795.3/931.5 GB)] (x5)
    Date : 2011/10/21 9:14:08
    OS : Windows 7 SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)


    vostro 1400 low power w USB 3 siig express card

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    * MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]
    Sequential Read : 94.140 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 66.311 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 30.083 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 37.346 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 0.367 MB/s [ 89.6 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.794 MB/s [ 193.8 IOPS]
    Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 0.534 MB/s [ 130.3 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.810 MB/s [ 197.7 IOPS]
    Test : 2000 MB [F: 85.4% (795.3/931.5 GB)] (x5)
    Date : 2011/10/21 9:37:43
    OS : Windows 7 SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)
     
  7. Hijakd

    Hijakd Notebook Geek

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    Yeah the speeds are well worth it......the cards are very inexpensive aswell....I was shocked actually, I was expecting a hefty bill for one.

    Its on my short list now defiantly (may aswell just wait till usb3 becomes the norm) such a easy upgrade/addon.