M17X-R4 with GTX 1080 GDDR5X 8GB

Welp , i have not tried anything else. I just wanted to install it and find out if it works.

I need to dremel my heat sink tomorrow. I will keep you guys posted tomorrow.




Good night , it's midnight lol.

GPU pic.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wu4h3tae5itk9ic/20180906_051915.jpg?dl=0

::: 3DMARK11 Stock run :::

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12924584



09/12/18 : Working internal 120Hz display ..thanks @Striker1234




Stock FireStrike




Current: Need to get a working driver now .....

 

Pics? lol

 

he got the GTX 1080 without power connector from MSI, most here would suggest getting the GTX 1070 TDP modded instead since it would perform about the same.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-MS16L1...233515?hash=item1c8576b4ab:g:HZUAAOSwK6RZGfg9

its this one, nothing interesting really.

 

Except the different core position and the necessary heatsink mods which will be something different

Don't have pics obviously but desoldering and flipping the heatplate 180 degrees might be... "easier"?

 

So now that it got installed , can someone guide me on how to modify which line of the nvidia driver for it to work properly so the laptop chooses the gtx 1080 instead of igpu.

I am at work and away from my laptop , but I want to get all the information/help I can get with the driver so i can dive right in when i get off work.

 

throw me a private message, I'll be home in a couple of hours frmo now.

 

Impressive, but this may end up like the 1080 in the Ranger, able to boot up but not able to do anything, props to you

 

Thanks , I won't be home till 8 hours from now.

 

that is not the MSI GTX 1080, but rather the zotac gtx 1080 mxm pulled from one of their boxes, I'm 90% sure because of that weird hump at the top of the card.

@Rengsey R. H. Jr. good on you mate for experimenting, though I think you'd save yourself a lot of headache by using the 3d panel instead

 

Forgot about that GPU lol I was thinking of the MSI 1080 with the flipped core

Did you buy a ZBOX or did you manage to source it from somewhere?
EDIT: Its likely not outputting to the internal display if its a ZBOX 1080, they're not natively outputting to a display, try an external display when you get home

 

Just ordered a 3d panel this morning for $109 shipped.

 

Mine arrives soon enough, can't wait to see how well this 1080 is

 

I was given a deal for a zbox EN1080K for $1K

 

Thats a really good deal, the cheapest I could find one for is $1.6K

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/gtx-1080-mxm-3-0-zotac-zbox-defekt-/928627828-225-1994
Also if anyone is interesting in making a upgrade, here is one from Germany

 

It was a Win win solution. I threw the WX7100/RX 480 in the ZBOX EN1080K , and it's water cooled CPU and GPU.

The guy I got the ZBOX from hooked it up for a little under $1300 , which included the barebone plus 32GB RAM , 128GB m.2 , and 4TB storage. I couldn't pass it up. Plus it was new/replacement from Zotac.

 

If all this works, I'll consider this for my M6700 or my Clevo

 

That card has a different layout than the MSI one I linked.

This would make the heatsink mod significantly easier. Since the core seems to be at the area it should compared to the one I linked where the core is in the middle.

 

That's the card he's using, that's why I linked to it.

 

Thought he used the MSI one, the one you linked is easy to build into his system. Would be interesting to know what the TDP limit is tho.

 

I realize that this is the m17xr4 but i installed the same card in my alienware 17r1. It will display to internal display but only on 3d screen. The card power throttles because the mxm slot is not able to provide the power needed. I have an external flasher and tried at least 20 vbios. Ultimately the clevo bios i tried allowed me to install modded drivers and the card would function partially but performed at p1 levels unable to maintain full clocks. I adjusted the tdp with coolanes tool but it only makes the vbios unstable. I ended up reflashing the stock zotac vbios and hooking it up to an external monitor it installed no problem but the card power throttled and underperformed once more. Without extreme power modification either through the motherboard or adding additional power to the card this project underperforms in my laptop and is beaten severely by the zotac 1070 which has a tdp of 115w.

 

Currently I have the 60hz screen and it run fine on internal screen, but not to full potential as i have not set up the driver properly yet. I will have a 120hz in a few days also.

 

The M17xR4 doesn't have the same 330w limitation as the AW 17 R1 if I remember correctly, so this may work out.

@Rengsey R. H. Jr. try this premodded inf, it may work for you, if not you'll have to manually add the device id to the inf:

https://premamod.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/j95-nvidia-inf/

 

If the m17xr4 can power it it would be awesome. I have a set of modded drivers for windows 10 ill send you

 

That's what I was going to link you. J95 is the best.

 

If this works perhaps I'll get a M17xR4 in the future to try out the next gen cards.

 

The issue is, the MXM slot can only provide up to 180W of power, which comes out to ~150W of reasonable average power avaliable, and this 1080 doesn't have an external connector for the power to be easily routed to. Another point to be made is that this machine was only made for 100-125W TDP GPU's, I wish you good luck though, I see this in my future and if not a 1060 or 1070 SLI

 

I don't know what to download on that page lol. If ya'll can zip the complete driver for me, that would be awesome.

 

1) https://mega.nz/#!suJ1QYYI!bBKDBtwuxPhlt_GnlrNOOvpl-EnqIjR9LLjb4X9Ir7U

2) http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/399.07/399.07-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe

Extract the ZIP file. You need to boot using "disable driver signature enforcement" and run the nVidia installer.

You're in luck, I just had to install the latest drivers for BF:V Beta so:

setup.cfg goes in: C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\399.07\Win10_64\International

nv_display.inf & nvdmi.inf goes in: C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\399.07\Win10_64\International\Display.Driver

 

That's quite a bit different to the P370EM which had no issues feeding 2x 1070's 200W each for 13mins straight completing a GPUPI 1B run.

 

I haven't got a chance to get the driver up.

Just an update , I am getting the LCD 120hz tomorrow delivery.

 

Watching with interest

 

Ran into an issue regarding power supply. For some reason , the power plug is turned off automatically and uses battery. Is that something windows 10 is doing ?

 

Never had that issue on windows 7 or 10 but that was the ranger

 

power limit trip will shut off the AC adapter.

 

The laptop is using the dual 330 watts PSU , so it can't be the power supply. Could it just be the laptop itself that is tripping the PSU ?

 

Could be an internal circuit sensing the MXM slot is requesting too much power, and kicks it off AC power to stop it from burning up and instead switches to battery to force lower clocks/voltage. This is just me spitballing though, I'm not a computer engineer and I can't begin to accurately postulate what the hell is going on here lol

 

Sounds about right lol

 

That's very interesting, I'm assuming it's what @Raidriar said. Because the M18x can use dual PSUs fine and if I remember correctly, so can the M17x series. The MXM port must be tripping. Maybe try lowering the clocks and lower the voltage in MSI Afterburner to see if it helps.

Can you post an exact picture of the 1080? I'm curious to see if it'd fit an M18x lol

 

It won't fit. The extended top piece is touching one of the chip on the motherboard, thus not making the card lat flat.

 

Hey bro, can those modded drives open 3D vision? I have a 120hz 3d pannel but after I updated 970M I can't open 3D settings.

 

3D vision is only available on the GPU the laptop shipped with, so a 780M is the max you can use for it IIRC

 

880m as well, but is hardly worth mentioning.

 

I got the 120Hz LCd.

Bad news. I get 8 beeps when I put in PEG mode. The display will not come on. It will come on via HDMI output. Not even in SG mode when using the 120Hz screen.

Other than a LCD that is not 120Hz , it will display fine using SG mode.

Conclusion: The card will display to non 120Hz using SG mode, but will display via HDMI Out in PEG mode. This card cannot do standalone PEG mode. I believe the bios on this Zotac card does not allow it to. It's likely I will not get an external bios flasher anytime soon, I'm gonna give up.

This is also the same for the AW 17 R1

 

Ouch.
Can you run a few benchs on an external screen? Just to give us an idea of it? If not, it's fine

 

Probably not the best of ideas. VRMs might burn out without a heatpipe to displace the heat.

 

If it displays and everything, why not try it out in the m17xR4 with the 60hz display in SG mode? After modifying the heatsink of course.

 

I bench 3dmark11 but it power trip And just became very very slow.

But on the AW 17 , it bench fine with no pwr cap since it was using a 300W PSU, but throttle like crazy almost 11K score.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12913989

 

you can try clevo or msi's vbios without g-sync, and turn to uefi mode.

 

I believe this has already been tried, and even so, he would need to either edit the VBIOS to reduce power draw, or feed the GPU extra power to maintain a score good enough to be considered over the 1070

 

@Danishblunt has made me a modded nvidia driver , I will give this another try to see if it can bench using GTX 1080 instead of integrated.

8 hours till I get off work though ... lol