M17x Benchmark Thread Suggestions

did you guys make a new team or something?
i see Team NBR with hikoo leading the pack with 61 points.


still.... you really need to figure out how your going to run the benching part...
bench for points or bench to be king of vantage and 3dmark06...
total point count = 8
2 for dual gpu
2 for single gpu

for now...
i would recommend...
1: you bench for total points
because it's the guy with the most points who wins
2: you let hwbot keep your scores
that way no one needs to submit anything to the room or keep track. and over there, the scores are moderated and if anyone has a complaint, they can flag that users score for scrutiny. do it here and all that happens is..thread gets closed/temp bans/mod moderation/ post deletion.

 

Here's a crazy thought: Our M17x Wiki already has a benchmarking section where all M17x owners can enter their own submissions complete with photos. They all go to the same central place and it's very easy to track: Benchmarks - Alienware M17x Wiki

 

i dont see any post joker?

 

Doesn't the link just take you back to the NBR M17x benchmark thread?

 

that's what i got jubbing

 

i would rather keep it as is instead of going over to hwbot, i would have joined the site already if i wanted to join it at all.

 

It's a Wiki hence people have to actually add in their own entries. The page links back to the M17x thread on NBR because nobody has edited the page yet. The Wiki idea works because there is no reliance on a single person to comb through entries and add them. Anyone can go in and add/edit/delete their own submissions. I think it's the best way to deal with this benchmarking issue.

 

Hwbot would would give us more to sort through whether it's different GPUs/CPUs or any other options we wish to filter. Plus there is a validation process that is done for us. No need for us to worry about it. Doing that here is impossible.

 

hummmmm....wiki is a great idea, but....

letting people mod benchmarks..without there being a moderator..not a good idea.... this will lead to a bunch of unnecessary confusion. and just because someone might try to say they are true..doesn't mean they are...
no searchable data base, very big downer there. no filters either....

side note:
i concur with mandrake.

side note:
but ill tell you this right now...if you want to stay on top of that list...your going to need to REALLY be a bencher/over clocker if you want to REALLY be in the top 10 over all points bracket....lol
and it looks like it's going to be a long road for most to even get remotely close to hikoo....

 

There's very few notebook benchmarkers on NBR to start with, even fewer M17x owners that are interested (just look at the benchmark thread, it's mainly scook benching against himself). Redirecting them to hwbot and asking them to go through some lengthy submission process will probably fail like all other previous efforts. Asking a single person to validate runs and comb through them also tends to fizzle out. A Wiki is community run and these benchmarks aren't for prize money so who cares about all the filtering or validation? Lets get real here, this is just for fun. Personally I don't even care, I said it before that I'm not really into benchmarking except when I have a new piece of hardware or software to test. Now that everything's been discovered and unlocked, I'm too busy enjoying playing GAMES with my M17x The OP should put up a poll with possible suggestions and then you guys can vote on what to do.

 

The process in HWBot is really not complicated...have you tried it? You should before judging it.

And as for points, I am only half way to Hikoos points Well, 10 closer if you count desktop scores I have

 

yeah, that just for fun is for you maybe..but for me...it's a sport...it started out being just for fun, but really turned into a blown out sport/hobbie. and a few have transform in to doing the same thing.
and there is money involved...if you can beat out a desktop. lol
kind of why we have been trying to get this thing off the ground for laptop....

lol
i have him by like 20 to 30 points i think, but he still isn't the highest. and it's kind of hard to tell...because the others points are all mixed up with their desktop scores.

 

Like I told you, besides a handful of people, this benchmarking idea will never really take off for notebooks. If it was going to work, it would have years ago. The fact is the majority of people that own performance DTRs tend not to be very versed in it's inner workings (just read over our forums as a good example). Even seasoned "benchmarkers" just rely on shutting off Windows services and blowing cold air on their systems--anyone can do that. The rest is just variables that depend on the manufacturing process of the individual components, some get lucky with golden samples and others are stuck with duds.

 

Think the M17x can run a T7200 (the 667 FSB one)? lol

Got some testing to do on a few old laptops

 

i would give it a go scook.
if the cards weren't so expensive for a m17x, i probably would have gotten one to grab me some gold trophies with.
it's able to bench a lot of parts like a desktop board and it's fully over clock able.

no way in hell im spending 4k on a laptop to play some games..that's out!
that only works if you at a lan party showing off what you got...but if it sits at home all the time or out of the public eye..it's bragging rights.

 

I can write a database with a web interface to input data, the thing is who is going to host the server....
Is someone from here willing to have a machine run 24/7 as a dedicated server just for us submitting data?
It's easier to contact hwbot and tell them to create a notebook category rather create a new one ourselves...

 

we can use jsp, servlets and tomcat but as I said it's going to take a while and who is going to host and maintain it? I don't have time to do the maintenance...

 

no need to, if you can make an addon for the hwbot data base, then we wouldn't need to take care of it...they would

 

It's easier for me to create a database from scratch with a web interface and install them on a server rather than trying to figure out how theirs work

 

hummmm..

we tried this as well. there is a pretty good template up, but not sure what happen to it. i think it was in the clevo thread.

and your right...it is a lot of work!!
say stamatisx, let me ask them what they have going on.just maybe....you can be the one we were looking for. it cant hurt right? if they agree, would you be willing?

 

It all depends on the time it will take me. If it requires a serious amount of time I don't thing I can afford it. But ask them if they can simply add an extra criteria for notebooks. It's really easy for them (for instance if they see that the submitted results contain a mobility processor and GPU, it can't be a desktop...)

 

ill see what can be done. we tried the easy route and it started messing things up over there from what i was told...
also some desktops use mobile gpus and cpus. this is what was messing with the data base.

 

They can add drop down menu to choose between a desktop or a laptop and have a separate table for notebook submissions. It's won't mess their ranking because the score will count for the global ranking but on the new table it will store the score for the notebook category as well... And on the page to see the ranking they can add a button to filter according to desktop or laptop.

 

that's only part of the problem also the scoring was the other part.
and merging it into the world ranking....and a few other things. but i think the scoring is the real hard part. it's based of of how many people submit in a category. they were trying to re adjust that as well....

 

That's what I am saying, they won't have to change their global ranking or scoring. They can simply add a new table into the database that will store an additional score and specs for the notebook category.

 

I thought about that, but once we have enough ideas on board, I can do that.

 

I'll play the role of Debbie Downer and say we will end up back in the same place we were. Notebookreview is great for the amount of traffic here but it's still not a benchmarking site. For those who want to benchmark they will continue to use hwbot and notebookforums while others won't care and eventually fade away.

 

yeah, im still in the exact same spot i have been in for the last two years...

so looks like ill keep posting to hwbot and call it a day.

 

That's what it seems.... Who knows... hwbot may consider a separate laptop ranking in the future

 

In the mean time, you can still accrue many points 2 at a time with laptops. I have over 60 points now, only 10 of that is desktops

 

yep, i was looking at that.
great job!
my global points are all desktop but my hardware points are like 100 points in laptop parts.

gonna count and see what i got.