Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
I've dialled mine back to 24 since I noticed my fps was going funny and realised I had hit that 95oC mark running at 25With TRL set to the norm of 24, it stays ~85oC. Oh well, nvm!
Although I did notice that when I hit the DTS button, that supposedly counts down to when throttling will take place, it indicated that 100oC was the throttle threshold, not 95oC
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Intel sets the thermal throttling temperature of these CPUs to 100C at the factory. Some laptop manufacturers set a lower temperature in the bios so your CPU or GPU will start to throttle sooner before the correct temperature is reached. Usually they are trying to protect some sub-standard component on the motherboard or perhaps just trying to protect a users lap.
Great to see you are having fun playing with ThrottleStop. When gaming, check off the Log File option if you want a very accurate record of what multiplier your CPU was using while playing as well as core temperature. It makes it easier to see when you have pushed your XM chip a little too far. Ultimately these CPUs in a laptop are heat limited so find a way to run your CPU cooler and you will be able to unlock some more performance. -
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Hey Andi. I'll see if I can shed some light on your temps for you since none of the more experienced members of NBR community have yet picked up on your question.
I just installed a new 920XM as well. I used IC Diamond 24 Carat thermal paste, which I've heard a few people state is good for high temps.
ANYWAY - I think your temps are a lil on the high side. At idle my HWiNFO reports that my CPU runs @ <20W and <45oC. When I run the ThrottleStop 1024M bench, HWiNFO reports 85W and a temp that hits up to 95oC
>>> amazingly (or maybe not so), when I lifted the lappy off the book I'm using to prop it up, the temps during the TS bench fell by 15oC!!! and the multipliers went back up to a solid 24!
>>> I think investing in a lappy cooler may be a good way to go for both of us! But clearly at idle your temps are still significantly higher than mine, so I think repasting your CPU with a decent thermal paste may be a good way to start.
I hope that's been helpful. I'm sure some of the more seasoned NBR'ers will be along soon enough to advise you better. Good luck brother! -
Good plan
Just a tiny word of "warning"... I didn't realise before I had applied ICD24 that when you remove the stuff, for re-pasting, that it can leave scratches on your heatsink and CPU (diamond dust is hard apparently!). I found some forums where users were posting all sorts of images of totally scratched up surfaces.
When I removed ICD24 from my 840QM before sticking in the 920XM, although I too found scratches left behind (I used Artic Clean to get rid of the stuff), they were no way near as bad as some ppl were making out. And the scratches don't affect anything I've been told anyway, so it's only an aesthetic thing, but something to be aware of I suppose.
ALSO - I received an email from the President of Innovation Cooling regarding the best way to apply ICD to the rectangular shape of our netbook i7's. As opposed to a 5mm blob in the centre as advised on their website, he suggested a line, 3/4 of the length of the CPU, running down the centre as the best method of application. He said they'd have YouTube videos up soon. -
I'd also like to note that the 920XM also uses a higher stock voltage which results in higher overall power consumption.
Also one thing to be aware of is that the CPU fan also may affect what the monitoring software says about the CPU wattage. Remember, these are powerful fans and they might draw 10w themselves since they have to flush out that hot air and fast. My 920XM only reads 80-85w when I overclock it to 3.33GHz and am running Vantage with the PhysX portion currently being tested. The highest it gets to at stock is around 60w... but then again, the highest recorded temperature I get with my CPU is 83*C on the hottest core when I'm gaming.
I've got the Cooler master U3 and it WORKS. The three fans truly do make a difference with how much air these blower fans require... o.o It's craziness I tell ya... -
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Guys, can I use ThrottleStop AND the modded A10 bios with a 5% OC for even bigger gains?
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920XM + Throttlestop is FTW
I'm still playing a relatively old MMORPG called Anarchy Online. Love being able to 8 log chars all at the same time, without any noticeable drop in performance. -
Why would you wanna log in 8 toons at once?
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So I can "solo" a whole team-based raid by myself
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[off-topic]Multiboxing...sweet old wow times (had 4 accounts and after 2 months of sleeping-eating-gaming daycycles(with a day-off sometimes) I sold 3 of them for a total of €750 and kept the 4th for my own.3 accounts*€15= €45/month * 2= €90 subscription costs and 3*€30 of cd-keys so a total of €180 so make the difference
. If my hardware back then was any decent i could've played 8 chars at the same time or more but ey, can't complain ^^
Too bad it ruined some of my social life or I wouldn't do anything else to make lots of money. [/Off-topic]
on topic:
Ordered an i7 920xm from laptopmonkey about a week ago, can't wait to test it. (coming from a 720qm but i feel its bottlenecking in certain games, specially mmorpg's which will be very cpu demanding anyday)
I suppose there is no kind of modification available to boost the cooling alot? (talking about H²0...). Or I could start of buying that coolermaster U3 with the mountable fans?! Sometimes when playing, suddenly the game's fps drops by lets say 3/4th so 60fps->15fps. I suppose its the 720qm getting to hot and going in power saving mode or something. Or it may be the 5870's. for some reason sisoft sandra doesnt want to start so i could check the temps.. -
I believe I multiboxed 3 magi on my old Toshiba lappy once to about level 45 before I got bored. If I had known there was money to be made from it, I would have gone to completion! Oh well. Great profit margin there though, idd, nice well done!
>>> I sometimes miss WoW and the BGs, before I'm reminded how much abuse certain members of the community directed my way and how hard it is organising tennagers to turn up and play at certain hours of the day - being a Guild Leader sucks, yo. That, and I /shudder when I remember I paid £8-99 a month for 3 whole years!
I came to the 920XM from a 840QM and I can tell you that my CPU was defo bottlenecking many a game, some more than others, but admittedly some none at all (I can only assume now the annoying stutter in Deus Ex: HR is down to bad coding - that 60fps still falls to horrible 25 just as with my 840). I think you'll be happy with the results, especially if you use TS to up that TDP to ensure all cores use max turbo boost clocks at all times
>>> the few stutters I have now in some games I can contribute directly to a drop in CPU core clocks when the default 62W TDP is hit - these stutters go away when the TDP is increased to 80W and all cores remain running at max turbo clocks at all the time.
My U3 will be with me shortly! This heat wave we're having in the UK has forced my hand (I was considering it before hand anyway) as my CPU and GPU temps are a horrible 10-15oC higher now at all times
>>> the 920XM is easily hitting it's 95oC roof now and the clocks falling from the max turbo
>>> I'm optimistic the U3 will help reduce temps significantly as I noticed that just lifting the lappy off the textbook I'm using to prop it off the table (for ease of use - I'm 6-4) dropped temps from the 90-95oC they were hitting during the TS bench to an astonishingly low 75oC! I doubt I'll get quite as awesome results in this heat wave, but most games don't tax all cpres@100% for extended periods as the TS bench does, so I'm hopeful the U3 will drop temps enough to keep from hitting the 95oC roof.
From personal experience, when I first got my R2 and noticed drastic drops in FPS, it was because my 5870s were hitting 115oC (!!!) and the clocks falling way down to 300/400. A repaste with ICD solved the problem and now under max load from games lik Metro2033, the GPU temps never go more than 85oC (that's with the extra clock speeds and voltage which I didn't have going on before).
Use HWiNFO64 to monitor your temps - it's a godsend as far as I'm concerned, and I am eternally grateful for the Alienware NBR community for turning me on to it. I've spent many a night examining the gaming logs from it! I even have it set to start with my Windows boot and display certain readings on my Logitech G13 gamepad's LCD screen - I am addicted!
>>> but ahem, point being it's great and you should defo try to use that to monitor temps, clocks etc.
Keep us posted on how your upgrade goes! I love my 920XM with a passion - and I also bought from the LappyMonkey guys who provided a great service - reminds me, I should leave feedback!
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It really is a beast. Most of my work colleagues don't even believe that my laptop has dual SLI graphics cards in it, let alone when I tell them that the 920XM EE cpu turbos up fully on all 4 cores at the same time
My next upgrade will be to 16gb of RAM...just cos I want that much!
M17x R2 CPU upgrade to 920xm
Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by brlowe, Jul 31, 2011.
