m17x r3

hello i am new to the forum so please go easy on me i was wondering if someone could help me i am thinking about buying a m17x r3 but was wondering if it will run microsoft flight sim x on reasonable settings ps the gpu i am getting is the stock gtx 560m

 

I would highly recommend the 6990m, you can go to notebook check to find some performance info on the gtx 560m.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-560M.48313.0.html

 

nayilalien thank you for help I think I will just stick with the stock gpu as I can't afford an extra 160 pound LOL

 

Later down the line when the current cards get cheaper or when you have the money to buy the next series of GPUs at least you have the ability to upgrade it on the M17x.

 

Call a rep. or chat with a rep. for some discount. Since you are UK based send a message to Steviejones133 for a rep. in the UK that can get you some nice discount. You might be able to get that 6990m after all.

 

Just so you know, with the latest service packs installed for MS Flight Simulator X I was able to pretty much max out the graphics settings with my desktop 7900GT. With my desktop GTX 260 (216 core) I was definitely able to max it out at 1200p.

As long as you install all of the service packs available for MS Flight Simulator X, you should be able to max it out on a GTX560m

Also I would definitely try to get a discount using steviejone's rep, with my specifications I got 10% off. You should you that first to get a 1080p screen, then if you have money left over the 6990m.
I highly recommend you avoid the 1600x900 screen. The 1920x1080 screen and a GTX560m is still a very good combination and you should be able to max out flight sim x. If you can get the 1080p screen and a 6990m even better, you will be future proofing your laptop.

If you want an even cheaper M17x R3, i recommend you look at the UK Dell outlet.
Theres a refurbished M17x R3 for £1,385.05 ($2166 USD) with a GTX580m (yes the over £300 graphics card), 3D 1080p Screen, BluRay, 8GB RAM, 2720QM
I would snatch that deal

 

LoL what's the point of having a 1080p screen on a 17inch screen?! I just don't get that... I took the 900p and it is JUST FINE... if I want 1080... I can just HDMI my HD TV XD...
I for one, am VERY SATISFIED and VERY HAPPY with my 1600*900 and would NOT, DEFINATELY NOT, recommend the 1080p resolution screen on a laptop.

Though back to the TC... Yeah, the non-patched version of FSX contains way too many bottleneck codes and will be slow with stutters on pretty much any machines... But once you installed the lastest patch (I think there is 2 service pack or something like that) you gain something close to a 50/60% gain in performance!!!! (Because they get rid of those bottleneck in the code).
In the end... my q9000 CPU (2.0Ghz quad core) with an nvidia 9800GTXm and 8GB ram (533mhz..) would run the game with above 30fps in sunny skies... but in the 15 in clouds.
I haven't tried it yet on my m17x r3... but I would NOT EXPECT anything below 50 fps to be honest (Previous system being 2years old... and more)

 

1080p > 900p on m17x period lol

560 will run fsx fine provided ur installing all the service packs

although i mainly use the m17x to play on tournaments and some vfx stuff the 1080p is soo much sharper as the 900p and makes editing stuff a fair bit handier. so from an esports perspective 1080p > anything lower res.

 

I think some people have had issues with the 900p screens, and the blame solely goes because it's 900p. Most of them have complained about the blacks showing up as greys.

I have the 900p and it's pretty darned good. The only little complaint, I hate it when I see those mild vertical lines that appear in the background when the screen is displaying a bright white color. I have noticed those vertical lines on my LED cell phone, not to mention both horizontal and vertical lines on my Sony Bravia.

The 1080p hdmi output comes out great on my Sony and Viewsonic screens, and I hardly use the laptop screen unless I am out somewhere.

 

Never noticed those lines. I'll try and pay attention to it. But yeah the human eye would most likely not see a difference on a 17inch screen.
I have found this graph on multiple occasions and location. I'm not saying it is the final authority, or true for everybody.. but it will give you an idea:


Sometimes... 1080p is just too much... especially with a $150 difference !!!! (Not including taxes lol). So like I said, you might see a difference... will it be big?!! NOPE!!! Will it be worth it especially if you're on a bugdet (So close the guy don't even want to change the stock graphic card) HELL NO!
But that's just me.

 

I personally think the 1080p screen is very good on the M17x R3.
When comparing to the 900p screen, you have to remember they both have the same aspect ratio 16:9 so neither one will look squashed/stretched when compared with the other, just proportionally smaller/bigger.
I have gathered people on here prefer the 1080p screen, I have never seen the 900p screen but I am very happy with the 1080p one.
I used to have 1080p on my 15.6" M15x R2 and that made everything seem tiny, but when gaming it was really worth it.
I cant really tell you to go with a 900/1080 screen, but if I were you I would go with the 1080p no question about it.

 

The problem with this issue, is that how many people can REALLY tell which is better?!
It would take one to have BOTH laptops, one with 900p the other with 1080p... and start running videos/ games which will have that 1080p resolution.
In his (And my) case considering he got the 560m which from my understanding is really not that good xD , will probably not want to run games at such high resolutions!!! (I should have taken the 6990 I hesitated there lol, but in the end I didn't wanted to pay too much.)
I can't tell if 1080p is such a good investement because I don't have it next to my laptop... And you can't tell that the 900p screen is such a poor quality for the very same reason So let's the man decide for himself. He now knows that people are happy with both screens anyway that could be a good enough advice in itself. (btw, I was REALLY sceptic about the 900p screen when I was purchasing the laptop. not anymore)

 

when u play games on tournament levels n stuff u will notice 1080p actualy gives u a tad sharper picture and things are rendered out a tad better but there isnt a masive difference if not none regarding normal media such as movies n stuff.

higher res also allows for more stuff to fit on the screen on your desktop or games with menus n stuff. your graph is more aimed towards movie watching and stuff not realy to interactive media such as gaming.

if your on a tight budget and the 900p screen in the end will allow u to game a tad longer on it with the current hardware as running anything below native res wil start looking terrible.

 

IMO 1080p is important not just to 'look sharper' but because I use my laptop to be productive, and I can get a lot more on the screen.

Heck, I used to have a 1920x1200 (1200p) screen on a 15 inch laptop. I loved it. I can absolutely tell the difference between different resolutions on a laptop screen. That chart of distances at which you "take full advantage" of the different resolutions doesn't really go down to the laptop level where you're talking about a screen distance of just 1-2 feet.

Opinions are opinions. Everyone has them, an no-one is necessarily right. You will find, however, that the vast majority of people on this forum would steer you to the 1080p screen.

 

i have already spoke a rep and she said she cant offer discount even though i was willing to buy on the spot

 

well in my country the screen upgrade is only 70 pound i believe which inst a bad deal if u think about it and about the gpu i still havent decided i know the 6990m is better but i cant really afford 160 pound extra on the 1350 i am going to pay

 

if ur just in for fsx then the 560 will do allright.

6990m is more for the next wave of triple A titles,
ya can always just keep an eye on the outlet n hope for a good deal there.
might be a 2nd hand laptop but could yield more bang for the money

 

Contact steviejones's rep. Seriously. I got my specifications (see my signature) for £1379, a discount of 10% off. Note that the SSD and Win7 Ultimate I already had before I bought the laptop.

So you can either:
Buy a much cheaper high spec M17x R3 from the UK Dell Outlet
Get a discount using steviejone's rep (don't bother asking other reps they won't help you out like steviejone's rep would)
Or buy the laptop with the GTX560m without any discounts

Note that you would be able to max out FSX even on the lowest spec M17x R3.

 

i am planing on buy bf3 and a few oither a+ titles so i might have to go and look at other opitions although i do have a custom gaming rig that will handle them no sweat but i prefare being able to move about as i hate sitting at a desk

 

ok dont want tp sound like a idoit but whos stevie jones lol and how would i contact him

 

Lol not at all

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...-aw-system-accessories-please-contribute.html

Read the first post of that thread

 

ok thank you wiil check it out

 

if u want to play bf3 then a 6990 be a very good option to have as the game can be fairly demandin if u wanna play at high settings else the 560 should run the game on low settings no sweat.

 

u might of just convinced me to buy the 6990 but after having prevous driver issues with my last amd card thats the only thing putting me off looks like i will just have to do a bit of saving.

 

laptops are quite an investment

best to properly invest straight away then spend more on later upgrades

atleast on this thing u can upgrade the gfx card aswell


ive had the laptop for a wee while now and so far no issues regarding drivers, some ppl have but its not all that bad.
6990m is the best bang for money upgrade on the m17x as its fairly on par on the 580m and a fair bit cheaper.
its making the laptop a tad more future proof, buying a gfx card later will be a fair bit more expensive.

the ram and hdd are best to do after market so its ok to cheap out on that and save up more for upgrading that later.

6970 isnt too bad either, its not that much slower as the 6990m and a wee bit cheaper. im not sure on the percentage but ya can look up some game benchmarks on notebookcheck.com.

the outlet might yield some excelent deals aslong your not too fuzzy

 

yeah ur right about the the hdd and ram i can pick those up dirt cheap £50 for a 1 tb and can get the ram for 40 for 2gb x2

also an added bonus is that the m17xr3 has 2 hdd slots and 4 ram slots so plently of room for upgrading

and about the gpu i didnt know you could upgrade it i atuomatically thought it would attached to the MOBO how would u go about this as i never upgraded a laptop have loads of experience of desktops eg building and repairing ( curently training to be a ICT tech) could u link a video and what gpus would actually fit inside a m17x r3

 

gaming laptops have gfx as actual cards instead of soldered on the mobo, although the smaller ones will prolly have them soldered on.

information regarding what cards u can stick are on the forums here and there are some vids there aswell regarding ram and gfx stuff.

2 of the ram slots are on the bottom side, basicly u can flip open the complete bottom panel without any hazzle and get access to 2 ram slots the cpu the gfx card and the hdd.

The other 2 ram slots are under the keyboard and that requires taking most of the laptop apart, although its not difficult just requires some patience.

prolly youtube has some vids aswell.

there is plenty of modding happening on the forums and there are those that managed to get the m17x r1 to run dual 6970 i believe they where and pull some insane scores on that. Basicly these laptops are fairly longlasting products with a long future in em

 

well u learn something new everyday thank you for ur input and help

and the dual 6970s sounds beast