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    M17x R3 fujipoly thermal pads from Frozen CPU

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by widezu69, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    To those who have used these or have had experience with them in other computers, what are the pads like? The thermal pads on my GPU are a bit torn and worn out from excessive repasting :D

    Are they compressible and soft? Will the 1mm versions squish to like 0.7mm? Would anyone be willing to get me some? Narnia doesn't seem to have any at all!
     
  2. wingman_214

    wingman_214 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've got some new sheets of .5mm 1mm and 1.5mm. They all feel fairly firm, not at all squishy like the stock pads.
     
  3. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Where'd you get them from? FrozenCPU? Are they the brownish ones with a pattern on one side?
     
  4. xeroxide

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    compared to other pads i've used they're squishy.
    the 1mm ones easily compress to less than 0.5mm.

    in my system the 0.5mm was not making proper contact, the 1mm is perfect for me (r2 6990/6970m)

    i got my sheets from frozencpu, got the 1mm and 0.5mm sheets.
    unlike the original pads, they don't have mesh material to strengthen it, so re-using it often ends in tearing it.
    good thing the sheet is rather large.

    hehe i can't help thinking, the chronicles of narnia... sorry :eek:
     
  5. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    They were selling fujipoly 1mm 6mk sheets really cheap on ebay. There was a local seller but i haven't checked it recently
     
  6. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Dude, that's the point :D Narnia being the mythical place. I'm actually in the UK. I checked at FrozenCPU but the international shipping prices were phenomenal. Anyone care to lend a helping had?
     
  7. Mechanized Menace

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    I have used these pads in my R2. They are fantastic and extremely better than stock pads.

    @what you need help with Widezu?
     
  8. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    I just want to pay someone for the services of getting me some and forward them to me in the UK.
     
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  10. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    I know. I've used them when I had the M15x they are hard as rock and very unusable in a laptop.
     
  11. pau1ow

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    Why not getting the phobya thermal pads ?
    I am currently using the 5w/mk ones and they are great. The 7w/mk are too tough though which make them barely usable.
    phobya thermal pads | eBay
    Great price
     
  12. xeroxide

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    haha fair enough, there are places called narnia though, i think there's one somewhere in the US and another in Bangladesh hehe.

    yeah the postage was crazy here in the land of OZ too. i just bought a crapload of stuff to make it a little worth it. down here the local shops sell nothing but AS5 for premium thermal paste.

    i tried those phobya pads and i must say the fujipoly are WAY BETTER.
    i don't care what the rating is, they did not have anywhere near as good compression wise and they don't stick which might actually be a good thing but overall they just did not perform well at all. (i only tried the 7w/mk ones)
     
  13. widezu69

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    Hmm if the grey phobya ones are softer I may give them a try. So far all the pads I have use are so hard apart from the stock ones, of which mine are pretty battered up!

    Edit: @pau1ow just how different are the pads in terms of softness?
     
  14. pau1ow

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    Give a try for the 5w/mk. I tried both (5w/mk an 7w/mk) and couldnt use at all the 7w/mk as a) they are not sticky b) they are way too tough.
    5w/mk Phobya's are the way to go as they are effective, soft, sticky and cheap.

    Also, can I ask you what were your gaming clocks with your former 580m ? I also heard you got a 580m replacement but it performs worse than the previous one as regards to o/c. What are your new clocks (gaming, bench) then?
     
  15. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Ok thanks for the info so the 5W/mk ones are definitely soft and squiggier?
     
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    Yep definitely! Very soft and squiggy! Have you seen my 580m question ? :p
     
  17. Chaos92

    Chaos92 Notebook Consultant

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    I am using fujipoly premium pads. I did a repaste today. I saw this link so I though I would take a few pictures of the pads. You can get an idea of how compressible they are.


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    I also have a question. In the last pic, have I used the correct amount of paste??

    And when you put in those thermal pads, do click a few pictures so that we can get a general idea about what size thermal pad to use at which place.

    I also used the 1.5mm thich pads below the gpu. Didnt open that, so no pics of that.
     
  18. YodaGoneMad

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    Are you using electrically non-conductive paste? If you are using non-conductive paste then I would use a lot more and not it separate blobs. With separate blobs when you press down air can get trapped where the two blobs come together. Generally I use MX-2 or MX-4 paste and I put a thick line the entire length of the die. When I put on the heatsink any extra gets forced out but you get 100% coverage with no air at all. Since it doesn't conduct it won't short anything, so the extra doesn't matter.
     
  19. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    Yeah Yoda has a point. You need to apply the paste enough so that the next time you open it up it looks like it has covered the die completely.
     
  20. Chaos92

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    I read that less is more with thermal pastes.
    Don't remember the site but the results showed that if paste leaks out then the temps rise a lot.

    It is worth a shot anyway, so I wll try it later.

    @Widezu and Yoda- I saw your replies in the thread I created. Thanks for that. Will reply later in the evening. 1am here and I have college tomorrow so gtg.
     
  21. wingman_214

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    I loved the fujipoly pads. They are firm yet playable and sticky. Like modeling clay. The temps on my 6990m came way down. From high 70s on the thermal diode and high 80s memI/O to low 70 across the board. Before I was using some white phoebia pads that had no give to them at all.
     
  22. widezu69

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    Yeah I was using the white phobia pads as well. They are rock solid. No good. However the grey pads from the same manufacturer are sticky and soft. Much better. I got some of them now as fujipoly don't seem to want to come to Narnia...
     
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    How big of a sheet would you need for the 580 to repad when repasting?
     
  24. Chaos92

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    Which software are you using to monitor temps? I use hwinfo64 and i cant see any option for thermal diode or memI/O.
     
  25. pau1ow

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    Chaos,

    On nvidia gpus, there's only 1 temps sensor unlike AMD's (4 different thermal sensors)
     
  26. wingman_214

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    Hwinfo64 is what I use. I use the sensors only option, its toward the bottom. Are you running off the integrated or discrete card?
     
  27. widezu69

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    The nvidia cards don't have sensors there.
     
  28. Tazadar

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    There is a company here in Sweden that sell fujipoly thermal solutions.
    I have contacted them today about a thermalpad just like the one on the frozzen site. If i can get a hold of some i can ship it to you :)
    I have asked for a price, and they will most likely answer on monday.

    Btw! Should i go for the 1mm or the 1.5mm???
     
  29. widezu69

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    Go for 1mm. They will fit perfectly.
     
  30. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    for 680m/780m (I think they use the same heatsink, on my alienware) would I use the 1mm or 1.5mm or even low as the 0.5mm thickness pads. Also, would I mix different thicknesses in different area's ?

    If anyone knows, please PM me.
     
  31. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    I see.... *long silence and no comments.*


    com'on someone know for sure, what the m17/m18x-r1-2-3 680m-780m's use thickness wise for the thermal paste/pads/copper shims...